David Nofoaluma #164

[BAGNF05]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

 

[BAGNF05]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

That is actually not what I said at all, way to cherry pick. Even if that was my point Nofa is here until that point so there would be no waiting.

Haha well u didn’t answer the question then, say noffa left right now, would you back the club to have a like for like replacement lined up? That was my original point which you disagreed with.

He is not leaving right now, that is the point. My answer is I don't need to tell you who our like for like replacement is, because I have faith in the guy whose job it is to sort that out. I have already told you that and because I included a couple of options you cherry picked that from my answer. That is not how you win discussions with me.

I’m not trying to win or lose mate, my opinion is my opinion based on wanting to watch Wests tigers win football games. No more no less.

Then you probably shouldn't cherry pick my answer to suit your argument.

Mate I didn’t cherry pick, I said “who you got in mind Cochise?”

And I answered with that it wasn't so much players as I had faith in Hartigan, I did mention Kei as an aside and that was all you focussed on. As I said I don't need to know who it may be as that is Hartigan's job and he is very good at it.

Can he play wing ?

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

 

[Tiger5150]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

I think its clear that the club has been talking to Mansour. I would MUCH rather keep Nofo over Mansour, but if Nofo wants crazy money and we got Mansour cheap, it isnt the worst result.

TBH if Nofo left I would be hoping someone like Fitzgibbon steps up big time. There is always a big fast kid somewhere.

 

[tigerap]

Nofo wants 4 years ( club won’t budge beyond 3), and $600k p.a x4 - stalemate

Are we offering 3 year at 600k ? If so I would snap that up if I was him as i don't think he is worth anything over 500k max..

No

On the table Is 3 years $465k....willing to nudge to $480k..

 

[Tiger5150]

Nofo wants 4 years ( club won’t budge beyond 3), and $600k p.a x4 - stalemate

Are we offering 3 year at 600k ? If so I would snap that up if I was him as i don't think he is worth anything over 500k max..

No

On the table Is 3 years $465k....willing to nudge to $480k..

Fair, but top end.

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

That is actually not what I said at all, way to cherry pick. Even if that was my point Nofa is here until that point so there would be no waiting.

Haha well u didn’t answer the question then, say noffa left right now, would you back the club to have a like for like replacement lined up? That was my original point which you disagreed with.

He is not leaving right now, that is the point. My answer is I don't need to tell you who our like for like replacement is, because I have faith in the guy whose job it is to sort that out. I have already told you that and because I included a couple of options you cherry picked that from my answer. That is not how you win discussions with me.

I’m not trying to win or lose mate, my opinion is my opinion based on wanting to watch Wests tigers win football games. No more no less.

Then you probably shouldn't cherry pick my answer to suit your argument.

Mate I didn’t cherry pick, I said “who you got in mind Cochise?”

And I answered with that it wasn't so much players as I had faith in Hartigan, I did mention Kei as an aside and that was all you focussed on. As I said I don't need to know who it may be as that is Hartigan's job and he is very good at it.

Can he play wing ?

Maybe you should give the club a call and offer your service in recruitment.

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.


I think its clear that the club has been talking to Mansour. I would MUCH rather keep Nofo over Mansour, but if Nofo wants crazy money and we got Mansour cheap, it isnt the worst result.

TBH if Nofo left I would be hoping someone like Fitzgibbon steps up big time. There is always a big fast kid somewhere.

As I said earlier I think Kei would be in the mix somewhere as well.

 

[BAGNF05]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

 

[AJ1]

Looks like Souths preference may be Mansour according to the SMH:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/it-all-happened-in-four-days-instant-attraction-for-allan-at-bulldogs-20210111-p56t8q.html

Anyone else get Deja Vu reading this quote "Wayne wants the best for his players, he's always been good to me. He told me the truth, he said Latrell is here, I deserve to be playing first grade, and if I can find somewhere else he'll happily release me because he wants the best for me.'' 12 months ago Wayne gave the exact same talk to Doueihi.
It shows what a great people manager Wayne is. On the flipside, Cleary told Mansour he wasn't in the club's plans and look how that blew up.
It's a subtle thing, pump up the player's tires by telling them they deserve to be playing first grade somewhere else rather than telling them they are behind the pecking order.

 

[tigerap]

People are just making up $$$ numbers now.

They are real....

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

So lets give the guy a chance hey, all you do is criticize when the guy has made good moves so far and you have others on here saying he is good at what he does. At somepoint some positivity needs to come into it or what is the point of supporting.

 

[tigerap]

People are just making up $$$ numbers now.

They are real....

Club offered 4th year @ CO but was rejected

 

[BAGNF05]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

So lets give the guy a chance hey, all you do is criticize when the guy has made good moves so far and you have others on here saying he is good at what he does. At somepoint some positivity needs to come into it or what is the point of supporting.

I could give you 5-10 examples of positive feedback I have given, but on the Nofa thread I happen to have a strong opinion that we need to either sign him or a player that is of equal ability.

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

So lets give the guy a chance hey, all you do is criticize when the guy has made good moves so far and you have others on here saying he is good at what he does. At somepoint some positivity needs to come into it or what is the point of supporting.

I could give you 5-10 examples of positive feedback I have given, but on the Nofa thread I happen to have a strong opinion that we need to either sign him or a player that is of equal ability.

Not if he is being difficult we don't, if he is asking for too much then you have to let him go. You don't mess up your cap for a winger.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Nofo wants 4 years ( club won’t budge beyond 3), and $600k p.a x4 - stalemate

Are we offering 3 year at 600k ? If so I would snap that up if I was him as i don't think he is worth anything over 500k max..

Yeah I’ve supported the bloke but 600 will get you a good back rower, 3 yrs at 500 max

600k use the cash elsewhere, 3 years 460k is ok result

 

[BAGNF05]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

So lets give the guy a chance hey, all you do is criticize when the guy has made good moves so far and you have others on here saying he is good at what he does. At somepoint some positivity needs to come into it or what is the point of supporting.

I could give you 5-10 examples of positive feedback I have given, but on the Nofa thread I happen to have a strong opinion that we need to either sign him or a player that is of equal ability.

Not if he is being difficult we don't, if he is asking for too much then you have to let him go. You don't mess up your cap for a winger.

And I said that a few pages ago, but it’s my view that if you make a decision to move off him, you need to be out there chasing Xavier Coates or someone of that Ilk. And you may end up having to pay overs anyway.

 

[cochise]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

So lets give the guy a chance hey, all you do is criticize when the guy has made good moves so far and you have others on here saying he is good at what he does. At somepoint some positivity needs to come into it or what is the point of supporting.

I could give you 5-10 examples of positive feedback I have given, but on the Nofa thread I happen to have a strong opinion that we need to either sign him or a player that is of equal ability.

Not if he is being difficult we don't, if he is asking for too much then you have to let him go. You don't mess up your cap for a winger.

And I said that a few pages ago, but it’s my view that if you make a decision to move off him, you need to be out there chasing Xavier Coates or someone of that Ilk. And you may end up having to pay overs anyway.

Or you develop your own, but that's right we are incapable of that.

 

[JC99]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

So lets give the guy a chance hey, all you do is criticize when the guy has made good moves so far and you have others on here saying he is good at what he does. At somepoint some positivity needs to come into it or what is the point of supporting.

I could give you 5-10 examples of positive feedback I have given, but on the Nofa thread I happen to have a strong opinion that we need to either sign him or a player that is of equal ability.

Not if he is being difficult we don't, if he is asking for too much then you have to let him go. You don't mess up your cap for a winger.

And I said that a few pages ago, but it’s my view that if you make a decision to move off him, you need to be out there chasing Xavier Coates or someone of that Ilk. And you may end up having to pay overs anyway.

Its a balance of both. Ideally there’s always good juniors coach img through but it’s not always gonna happen that way - if we lose Nofa we need a quality winger taking his spot in 2022, we can’t afford to still be hoping that juniors will go good by then. We’ve got good rookies, but are they wingers? I was under the impression Kei and Hoffman are centres

 

[BAGNF05]

I dunno by the time Nofoaluma signs it ill be pushing 800K as the telecrap and foxsports understands..

Just been offered $1.2m

Over 3 years

Before anyone takes it too far, my post was a joke lol

I realised that

Joke or not, I’d be surprised if Nofa stays at WT

Wests Tigers can’t make him stay if he doesn’t want to. If he goes, he goes. I’d be slightly disappointed in Nofa if he goes, not the club.

We shouldn’t be trying to make him stay. It’s the role of the club to make an appropriate offer and then have an alternative solution lined up should he walk, I’ll judge the club based on this. Too often we tend to fail twice.

Agree ... I think we have advised him what we have on the table and its a take it or leave it offer.. After all our offseason moves and not paying overs I trust the powers at the club to not overpay..

That’s step one HSV. So when he takes up a more lucrative deal do you trust the club to replace him with a like for like replacement? I don’t.

I do

Who you got in mind Cochise? And has he played more than 10 NRL games yet?

My faith is more in the job that is being done by the likes of Hartigan, I have faith that he will pull the right reins. We also have some players coming through in the next 12-18 months who may be able to make the step up, players like Kei will be pushing for 1st grade spots in 12 months time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out, if we’re still waiting for young guys to pull us out of the dumps in 18 months that’s probably curtains for Madge. Then what?!

Where did I say we will be doing that?

I asked who would fulfil Nofs role and you gave me Kei in 12-18 months, not sure everyone has your patience mate.

If Nofo doesn't re-sign we will have plenty of cap space, hopefully a better club culture, with just over a year to replace him. Why stress about it now?

You’re assuming he doesn’t agitate for an early release (we know about that) and our poor form in recruitment of star players suddenly changes, I’m not so confident on either front.

Again you're stressing over a hypothetical worst case scenario. In the unlikely event he does push for a release, I'd like to think we'd take the same path as we did with Aloiai and push for a favourable outcome.

No. I’m saying that at the moment it appears a very real possibility Noffa could leave the club. If we’re not out in the market at least looking at suitable replacements we’re failing as a club. Look at how the Storm are operating in recruiting and retaining talent, that’s how it’s done.

We don't need a replacement now.

Do you really think that the club doesn't have a plan b if he does leave? That they are just sitting there waiting for him to sign, these guys do this for a living, they know what they are doing.

Mate, it’s hard to have much faith. Like we replaced Teddy and Mitch Moses so well. The next Gareth Ellis is still on his way. It’s been plod central in the pack. Hartigan might be the next Don Bradman but he’s only just walked to the crease.

So lets give the guy a chance hey, all you do is criticize when the guy has made good moves so far and you have others on here saying he is good at what he does. At somepoint some positivity needs to come into it or what is the point of supporting.

I could give you 5-10 examples of positive feedback I have given, but on the Nofa thread I happen to have a strong opinion that we need to either sign him or a player that is of equal ability.

Not if he is being difficult we don't, if he is asking for too much then you have to let him go. You don't mess up your cap for a winger.

And I said that a few pages ago, but it’s my view that if you make a decision to move off him, you need to be out there chasing Xavier Coates or someone of that Ilk. And you may end up having to pay overs anyway.

Or you develop your own, but that's right we are incapable of that.

To my earlier point, you could but it’s not going to happen overnight, and likely not on madge’s watch. If we don’t make the eight in 2 yrs I doubt he’ll be retained.