David Nofoaluma #164

[BAGNF05]

Fact
Nofa made 89 tackles in 2020 and missed 33.
Wingers don’t deserve half a million bucks a year, unless your wearing a Kangaroos jersey.

You always win if you outscore the opposition, how many tries did he score?

None of us have any idea what he was offered, but I don’t think he is leaving anyway.

7 wins 13 losses

All Nofo’s fault was it, the glass is always half empty for you isn’t it.

Haha has been for about 9 years with this mob, nothing wrong with wanting more

I’m not anti noff just think he’s already on good freight

I agree, but there is nothing wrong with him wanting more if he can get it.

True. Bit disappointing when Madge came out and said there is no way we would entertain a swap for JAC though, if you seen that interview you would have thought he was locked in here. I would have entertained the swap if Noff was keen but doubt Melb would have paid overs anyway.

Madge was showing 'total loyalty' to Nofa so it's up to Nofa to return that loyalty and maybe even take a slight pay-cut if he wants to stay at Wests Tigers.

Can’t see that happening but I am with you.

 

[Russell]

Noffo at $685k is sheer salary cap suicide. $450k is generous. $375 is fair value for money imo. I hate how our "club legends" drag negotiations through the media.

I hate how we treat club legends like dirt.

375k - I think you are kidding.

You've had a great year Noffo, so as a reward we are asking you to take a 75k pay cut. Meanwhile we will pay a guy with maybe 2 NRL games under his belt 350k.

You are entitled to your opinion like all of us Rusty but.....

Sorry Russell but Rusty is correct. Club. Legend is thrown about lightly. He should be retained but at the right price. I believe he can be replaced by end of next year from within.

375k isn't the right price - if it is, then AJ is well overpriced at 350k. Maybe we let him go as well by yours and Rusty's criteria then.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Noffo at $685k is sheer salary cap suicide. $450k is generous. $375 is fair value for money imo. I hate how our "club legends" drag negotiations through the media.

I hate how we treat club legends like dirt.

375k - I think you are kidding.

You've had a great year Noffo, so as a reward we are asking you to take a 75k pay cut. Meanwhile we will pay a guy with maybe 2 NRL games under his belt 350k.

You are entitled to your opinion like all of us Rusty but.....

Sorry Russell but Rusty is correct. Club. Legend is thrown about lightly. He should be retained but at the right price. I believe he can be replaced by end of next year from within.

375k isn't the right price - if it is, then AJ is well overpriced at 350k. Maybe we let him go as well by yours and Rusty's criteria then.

AJ has far more upside.

 

[Russell]

Noffo at $685k is sheer salary cap suicide. $450k is generous. $375 is fair value for money imo. I hate how our "club legends" drag negotiations through the media.

I hate how we treat club legends like dirt.

375k - I think you are kidding.

You've had a great year Noffo, so as a reward we are asking you to take a 75k pay cut. Meanwhile we will pay a guy with maybe 2 NRL games under his belt 350k.

You are entitled to your opinion like all of us Rusty but.....

Sorry Russell but Rusty is correct. Club. Legend is thrown about lightly. He should be retained but at the right price. I believe he can be replaced by end of next year from within.

375k isn't the right price - if it is, then AJ is well overpriced at 350k. Maybe we let him go as well by yours and Rusty's criteria then.

AJ has far more upside.

If you think Noffo is only worth 25k more than AJ - Really like AJ but...

Lets end the discussion here and forget it.

We then would agree to disagree.

 

[BZN]

@avocadoontoast

you got any other stupid facts I can instantly disapprove?

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You bring some much needed joviality to the reading on here....but just cool it down a bit dude.

 

[twentyforty]

If i remember correctly ,every WTfan at the time could not understand why he hardly got a run in the top grade It was obvious he was good.This is all a carry over from that terrible time.


Athe time as I recall we were much better at getting rid of players than signing on players. When they wouldn’t go we pushed that much harder ? players like Robbie and Benji. This is why Madge has got more of a challenge than he should have, but **he knew that before he took on the job, that’s what I admire so much about him.** And so far he is definitely living up to my expectations.

Same. I've never heard him make one complaint and he seems to be the team's biggest cheerleader.
Another thing I love about Madge is his clear intent to build the right (performance) environment for emerging leaders - thought Nofo was one this year, and we haven't seen it happen naturally at the club since Woods.

Good point, we have lacked on field leadership. The kind of team building leadership that helps repel attacks on the line, then respond in kind while still searching for oxygen. I’m hoping we’ll have a new captain announcement during the off-season?

 

[Holden]

@avocadoontoast

you got any other stupid facts I can instantly disapprove?

You bring some much needed joviality to the reading on here....but just cool it down a bit dude.

haha not banned got a nice warning ? But yea i wasn’t coming around the right way clearly

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Noffo at $685k is sheer salary cap suicide. $450k is generous. $375 is fair value for money imo. I hate how our "club legends" drag negotiations through the media.

I hate how we treat club legends like dirt.

375k - I think you are kidding.

You've had a great year Noffo, so as a reward we are asking you to take a 75k pay cut. Meanwhile we will pay a guy with maybe 2 NRL games under his belt 350k.

You are entitled to your opinion like all of us Rusty but.....

Sorry Russell but Rusty is correct. Club. Legend is thrown about lightly. He should be retained but at the right price. I believe he can be replaced by end of next year from within.

375k isn't the right price - if it is, then AJ is well overpriced at 350k. Maybe we let him go as well by yours and Rusty's criteria then.

AJ has far more upside.

If you think Noffo is only worth 25k more than AJ - Really like AJ but...

Lets end the discussion here and forget it.

We then would agree to disagree.

To be fair, many would like $375k as their yearly salary. I will be interested to watch the progression of Gebbie as we know he brings strength and genuine pace with him. He is a bit younger than Nofoaluma and obviously hasn't had the training within an NRL squad but if he can get it together as I am confident he will, it will make life interesting for Nofoaluma.

 

[earl]

How is it diabolical retention when both Papenhauzen and Addo-Carr were offered contracts by Wests Tigers at the time and both players by their own choice chose to sign elsewhere...Koroibete also only played 2 years at the Storm and then left them seeking fame and a fortune in another code

When we are now complaining that we shouldn't retain players who want to look elsewhere..

I'm not throwing this out here to rub faces in it but to highlight what can be achieved if systems are in place. I would add as I did this morning the Club has made significant improvements which I recognise. And no Nofoaluma doesn't get a look in because he is not in the same league as Koroibete or JAC.

Papenhuyzen
Koroibete
Kei
Doueihi
JAC
Laurie
Brooks

Talau
Rizk
Madden

Can you imagine how many long range tries would be scored by that back 3 ?

 

[hammertime]

With Reynolds $ freed up, it would be smart to use some to top up noffa now and reduce the burden in future years. We might be contenders for top 8 this year, but I think we're building nicely for something greater in 22. That's where we want our cap space.

 

[rustycage]

Noffo at $685k is sheer salary cap suicide. $450k is generous. $375 is fair value for money imo. I hate how our "club legends" drag negotiations through the media.

I hate how we treat club legends like dirt.

375k - I think you are kidding.

You've had a great year Noffo, so as a reward we are asking you to take a 75k pay cut. Meanwhile we will pay a guy with maybe 2 NRL games under his belt 350k.

You are entitled to your opinion like all of us Rusty but.....

No, I'm quite serious. Irrespective of what it is he's on currently, I think that's fair money in todays game. He is not worth almost as much as our half back. He's not worth as much as the likes of Addo-Carr. He's currently on a very generous wage and it shouldn't keep going up for the sake of it. If he truly wants to make finals and possibly achieve more, he needs to understand that he's a winger and should be on appropriate money in relation to other wingers. If he's paid overs, then that leaves less for other potential signings or re-signings thus reducing the chances of achieving the desired result.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

To me , if I was Nofas manager I would be advising 2 things .
1- take the 450k now and you have a safe slightly above average income for the next 4 years .or;
2. Wait for JAC to sign , so that will set the market and adjust accordingly .
I think anything else is just games and rubbish . It really comes down to his manager and the way he chooses to conduct business

 

[earl]

1- take the 450k now and you have a safe slightly above average income for the next 4 years .or

This is a really good salary for a winger. It's an elite level salary. I agree with what @rustycage is stating though. 500k is a top salary and the salary cap may go down 10%. 450k is a really good wage for a winger. I would expect AJ would be on more like 200k.

 

[earl]

To me , if I was Nofas manager I would be advising 2 things .
1- take the 450k now and you have a safe slightly above average income for the next 4 years .or;
2. Wait for JAC to sign , so that will set the market and adjust accordingly .
I think anything else is just games and rubbish . It really comes down to his manager and the way he chooses to conduct business

If we are offering him 450k he would be mad not to take it. Just say he chooses not too. We should immediately have a top offer of 400k next time we negotiate.

I'd like to keep Nofo. He has been great for us. I also think wingers are really important so even though I think 450k is crazy money I'd be okay with it.

 

[TYGA]

If the Tigers are confident in Kepoa, Talau, Kei or another player to step up and the cap money for Nofa is used to buy a forward I can accept it.
Ferguson or Mansour are a downgrade we get older, slower and more injury prone. Neither is a good defensive winger and worse under the high ball.

In addition you lose a popular player on the roster. I still believe we crashed when Heighnington was released years ago.

 

[Snake]

I would only offer Nofo a two year deal that is 3 full seasons ahead .. many talk about pathways well
Nofo after that period would be blocking that idea !

 

[jirskyr]

How is it diabolical retention when both Papenhauzen and Addo-Carr were offered contracts by Wests Tigers at the time and both players by their own choice chose to sign elsewhere...Koroibete also only played 2 years at the Storm and then left them seeking fame and a fortune in another code

When we are now complaining that we shouldn't retain players who want to look elsewhere..

There is a pattern - the Storm new how important it was for their brand to recruit them.X factor players who turn games.

Cool so all it takes is to be more like the Storm - have the all-time greatest coach, all-time greatest hooker, double books for half the seasons, locate yourself in a major city out of major scrutiny, get News Ltd to bankroll you.

 

[Muffstar]

With Reynolds $ freed up, it would be smart to use some to top up noffa now and reduce the burden in future years. We might be contenders for top 8 this year, but I think we're building nicely for something greater in 22. That's where we want our cap space.

Was wondering something similar, whether Nofa knew Reynolds was leaving and that the club would have X amount of dollars available and is trying to capitalise from that ?

 

[gallagher]

I would only offer Nofo a two year deal that is 3 full seasons ahead .. many talk about pathways well
Nofo after that period would be blocking that idea !

I'd also be waiting till the season is in full swing before signing him.

 

[balmain boy]

I really think we can’t afford Nofa, I love the guy for what he brings but I think he’s too expensive if he’s asking more than $325k. I really do.
Nofa hasn’t played rep footy or finals. Take a look at the 2 wingers chosen for the blues ahead of Nofa? Both on much less than he’s asking. JAC $375k and Tupou $220k. Our admin is on track now to deliver a well balanced cap. The horror of 2017 is well behind us now . Let’s leave it there..please?

Your numbers are way off