Farah

@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1036856) said:
Farah has been our best dummy half choice all season especially since Liddle hasn't been available for a large part of it. Tonight, however he looked very slow with his service - especially the way he couldn't bend down and his passing was off as well, which makes me think that his back was definitely a problem.
I have to agree that it's time for him to hang up the boots at the end of this season.
However, Liddle has done nothing to show me that he's the answer. Sure he's quicker out of dummy half, but he does not possess the guile and dummy half cunning of Farah and has no kicking game at all. Also Liddle makes a lot of mistakes in a game and is not as defensively sound. Overall he's an amateur compared to Farah.


Herein lies the problem.
 
Good player, just slowed down and on his last legs.

We have a bit of a negative image in the NRL I think in terms of club culture. We can't make the semis. Let him play his 300th of course, but we can reduce his minutes and increase Liddle's in the process.
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Farah](/post/1037023) said:
Singling out Farah is like complaining the ice cream shop was out of cones but neglecting to mention they were also out of ice cream. His long kicking was spot on. His replacement literally killed the one time we looked physically dominant by throwing them the ball. I give him 4/10 and I give the team as a whole 2. If he plays on next year I won't join the lynch mob, I'll lead it. He is definitely finished but I'm not going to bag the guy when half the team is worse than him.

I agree with a lot you said but half the team were worse than him - because of him.

Especially the play makers. Hang 'em up Robbie.

Wouldn't play him next week if we still have a chance of the 8.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Farah](/post/1037166) said:
@jadtiger said in [Farah](/post/1037160) said:
@Snake said in [Farah](/post/1037156) said:
@pawsandclaws1 We can hope at seasons end to never see him again! he has done nothing but tried to destroy the club for his own self worth for to many years.. some have short memories. Bye bye Robbie good riddance !

You are entitled to your opinion but i cant agree with it.There is no doubt his footballing days are essentialy over but your personal vendetta is over the top

It’s no worse than the personal vandetta many had against JT.


Don’t recall JT being a club legend or life member... but the rubbish on here regards Farah is laughable.
Pitiful to be more exact.
Sure , he’s not playing his best ever football, but people seem to forget Liddle has made some monumental blunders at important times when coming on (knocking on at the base of a scrum and throwing the ball to the opposition, just two recently, that killed momentum).
 
@OzLuke said in [Farah](/post/1037111) said:
I know Farah is a team legend blah blah blah, but Liddle also needed to show some minerals and tell Farah to march away and he take the dummy half....that shows the kid lacks a bit of aggression when it comes to calling the plays. He needed to boss the area not let himself get bossed.

I'll put it simply....we all remember Farah v Watts at LO when Watts belted him in a dog shot, then Farah got into the scrum and flogged him right back......

Would you want to follow Farah who doesn't take a backward step, or Liddle who won't even pipe up? If I was a forward I know exactly where I'd go. Forget the mistakes/too old discussion, it's about leadership for mine. Tonight was the game where Liddle could've stood up and taken the team but he didn't.

Surely said in jest.

@OzLuke said in [Farah](/post/1037111) said:
I know Farah is a team legend blah blah blah, but Liddle also needed to show some minerals and tell Farah to march away and he take the dummy half....that shows the kid lacks a bit of aggression when it comes to calling the plays. He needed to boss the area not let himself get bossed.

I'll put it simply....we all remember Farah v Watts at LO when Watts belted him in a dog shot, then Farah got into the scrum and flogged him right back......

Would you want to follow Farah who doesn't take a backward step, or Liddle who won't even pipe up? If I was a forward I know exactly where I'd go. Forget the mistakes/too old discussion, it's about leadership for mine. Tonight was the game where Liddle could've stood up and taken the team but he didn't.

Surely said in jest.
 
@OzLuke said in [Farah](/post/1037111) said:
I know Farah is a team legend blah blah blah, but Liddle also needed to show some minerals and tell Farah to march away and he take the dummy half....that shows the kid lacks a bit of aggression when it comes to calling the plays. He needed to boss the area not let himself get bossed.

I'll put it simply....we all remember Farah v Watts at LO when Watts belted him in a dog shot, then Farah got into the scrum and flogged him right back......

Would you want to follow Farah who doesn't take a backward step, or Liddle who won't even pipe up? If I was a forward I know exactly where I'd go. Forget the mistakes/too old discussion, it's about leadership for mine. Tonight was the game where Liddle could've stood up and taken the team but he didn't.


Imagine when we have Brooks and Liddle together on the field calling the shots like Marcel Marceau - everyone will just have to guess what the next play is, will be like watching a game of charades! 😂
 
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037018) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1036856) said:
Farah has been our best dummy half choice all season especially since Liddle hasn't been available for a large part of it. Tonight, however he looked very slow with his service - especially the way he couldn't bend down and his passing was off as well, which makes me think that his back was definitely a problem.
I have to agree that it's time for him to hang up the boots at the end of this season.
However, Liddle has done nothing to show me that he's the answer. Sure he's quicker out of dummy half, but he does not possess the guile and dummy half cunning of Farah and has no kicking game at all. Also Liddle makes a lot of mistakes in a game and is not as defensively sound. Overall he's an amateur compared to Farah.

You are joking, aren't you?

Liddle is what 23 and Farah is 35 - give the kid a go.

I also thought Farah was mentoring Liddle - doing a great job of pinching the DH role whilst they were both on the field.


Unfortunately for us, its no joke. You have a point that Liddle’s much younger than Farah, so he hasn’t got the experience, (which basically supports my argument) but he’s been in and around NRL long enough. How many seasons have we been waiting for him to “be ready”? There are younger hookers coming into the game showing more than him. How long does he need to be able to play 80 minutes?? How long does the club wait?
You say give him a go. I think he’s had a go plenty of times (it wasn’t Farah keeping him out for years now), but hasn’t been able to establish himself. Farah was 21 in 2005!
My point was also questioning his all round game as a dummy half and that it doesn’t seem to have developed at all. Look at the great hookers going around, they have many more skills in their game.
 
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1037185) said:
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037018) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1036856) said:
Farah has been our best dummy half choice all season especially since Liddle hasn't been available for a large part of it. Tonight, however he looked very slow with his service - especially the way he couldn't bend down and his passing was off as well, which makes me think that his back was definitely a problem.
I have to agree that it's time for him to hang up the boots at the end of this season.
However, Liddle has done nothing to show me that he's the answer. Sure he's quicker out of dummy half, but he does not possess the guile and dummy half cunning of Farah and has no kicking game at all. Also Liddle makes a lot of mistakes in a game and is not as defensively sound. Overall he's an amateur compared to Farah.

You are joking, aren't you?

Liddle is what 23 and Farah is 35 - give the kid a go.

I also thought Farah was mentoring Liddle - doing a great job of pinching the DH role whilst they were both on the field.


Unfortunately for us, its no joke. You have a point that Liddle’s much younger than Farah, so he hasn’t got the experience, (which basically supports my argument) but he’s been in and around NRL long enough. How many seasons have we been waiting for him to “be ready”? There are younger hookers coming into the game showing more than him. How long does he need to be able to play 80 minutes?? How long does the club wait?
You say give him a go. I think he’s had a go plenty of times (it wasn’t Farah keeping him out for years now), but hasn’t been able to establish himself. Farah was 21 in 2005!
My point was also questioning his all round game as a dummy half and that it doesn’t seem to have developed at all. Look at the great hookers going around, they have many more skills in their game.

Once again comparing "great" dummy halves (they are not hookers anymore) to a 22 yo in Liddle. He has been around since 2016 and played 35 games in one of the most demanding positions on the field.

Most of those games were 10-25 minute stints - you said "I think he’s had a go plenty of times" - well I don't and who said he can't play 80 minutes - plenty of people have said it but have they seen him collapse in a heap before he got to 80?

Unfortunately I think he won't have his contract extended - not a Madge favorite imo (maybe they are waiting for another club to pinch him) - so it will be another case of the one that got away. This club.......
 
Liddle spent most of his time on the field standing around. When he went to dummy half, Farah shoved him aside, but then all of a sudden we had centres at dummy half because Robbie decided he was playing 5/8 that play (or could not get across the field). That was one of the most selfish performances I have ever seen.

Admittedly there were some good long kicks, but this is again Robbie deciding when he will kick rather than allowing the halves to kick.

Brooks will never have an opportunity to control a game as long as Robbie is dummy half. Liddle should have been playing 40-50 minutes for the last month with Robbie playing the 1st and last 15-20 of a game.
 
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037187) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1037185) said:
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037018) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1036856) said:
Farah has been our best dummy half choice all season especially since Liddle hasn't been available for a large part of it. Tonight, however he looked very slow with his service - especially the way he couldn't bend down and his passing was off as well, which makes me think that his back was definitely a problem.
I have to agree that it's time for him to hang up the boots at the end of this season.
However, Liddle has done nothing to show me that he's the answer. Sure he's quicker out of dummy half, but he does not possess the guile and dummy half cunning of Farah and has no kicking game at all. Also Liddle makes a lot of mistakes in a game and is not as defensively sound. Overall he's an amateur compared to Farah.

You are joking, aren't you?

Liddle is what 23 and Farah is 35 - give the kid a go.

I also thought Farah was mentoring Liddle - doing a great job of pinching the DH role whilst they were both on the field.


Unfortunately for us, its no joke. You have a point that Liddle’s much younger than Farah, so he hasn’t got the experience, (which basically supports my argument) but he’s been in and around NRL long enough. How many seasons have we been waiting for him to “be ready”? There are younger hookers coming into the game showing more than him. How long does he need to be able to play 80 minutes?? How long does the club wait?
You say give him a go. I think he’s had a go plenty of times (it wasn’t Farah keeping him out for years now), but hasn’t been able to establish himself. Farah was 21 in 2005!
My point was also questioning his all round game as a dummy half and that it doesn’t seem to have developed at all. Look at the great hookers going around, they have many more skills in their game.

Once again comparing "great" dummy halves (they are not hookers anymore) to a 22 yo in Liddle. He has been around since 2016 and played 35 games in one of the most demanding positions on the field.

Most of those games were 10-25 minute stints - you said "I think he’s had a go plenty of times" - well I don't and who said he can't play 80 minutes - plenty of people have said it but have they seen him collapse in a heap before he got to 80?

Unfortunately I think he won't have his contract extended - not a Madge favorite imo (maybe they are waiting for another club to pinch him) - so it will be another case of the one that got away. This club.......

I think Liddle will be given a new contract..
 
@Geo said in [Farah](/post/1037192) said:
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037187) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1037185) said:
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037018) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1036856) said:
Farah has been our best dummy half choice all season especially since Liddle hasn't been available for a large part of it. Tonight, however he looked very slow with his service - especially the way he couldn't bend down and his passing was off as well, which makes me think that his back was definitely a problem.
I have to agree that it's time for him to hang up the boots at the end of this season.
However, Liddle has done nothing to show me that he's the answer. Sure he's quicker out of dummy half, but he does not possess the guile and dummy half cunning of Farah and has no kicking game at all. Also Liddle makes a lot of mistakes in a game and is not as defensively sound. Overall he's an amateur compared to Farah.

You are joking, aren't you?

Liddle is what 23 and Farah is 35 - give the kid a go.

I also thought Farah was mentoring Liddle - doing a great job of pinching the DH role whilst they were both on the field.


Unfortunately for us, its no joke. You have a point that Liddle’s much younger than Farah, so he hasn’t got the experience, (which basically supports my argument) but he’s been in and around NRL long enough. How many seasons have we been waiting for him to “be ready”? There are younger hookers coming into the game showing more than him. How long does he need to be able to play 80 minutes?? How long does the club wait?
You say give him a go. I think he’s had a go plenty of times (it wasn’t Farah keeping him out for years now), but hasn’t been able to establish himself. Farah was 21 in 2005!
My point was also questioning his all round game as a dummy half and that it doesn’t seem to have developed at all. Look at the great hookers going around, they have many more skills in their game.

Once again comparing "great" dummy halves (they are not hookers anymore) to a 22 yo in Liddle. He has been around since 2016 and played 35 games in one of the most demanding positions on the field.

Most of those games were 10-25 minute stints - you said "I think he’s had a go plenty of times" - well I don't and who said he can't play 80 minutes - plenty of people have said it but have they seen him collapse in a heap before he got to 80?

Unfortunately I think he won't have his contract extended - not a Madge favorite imo (maybe they are waiting for another club to pinch him) - so it will be another case of the one that got away. This club.......

I think Liddle will be given a new contract..

I hope so. Not big dollars, but another 2 years would be good. I don't think that there are better options available.
 
@Harvey said in [Farah](/post/1037189) said:
Liddle spent most of his time on the field standing around. When he went to dummy half, Farah shoved him aside, but then all of a sudden we had centres at dummy half because Robbie decided he was playing 5/8 that play (or could not get across the field). That was one of the most selfish performances I have ever seen.

Admittedly there were some good long kicks, but this is again Robbie deciding when he will kick rather than allowing the halves to kick.

**Brooks will never have an opportunity to control a game as long as Robbie is dummy half.** Liddle should have been playing 40-50 minutes for the last month with Robbie playing the 1st and last 15-20 of a game.

He had plenty of time when Farah wasn't here to prove his worth.... can't recall him controlling too many games then.
He hasn't got it in him... better to move him to 5/8 and get a real half.
 
@Geo said in [Farah](/post/1037192) said:
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037187) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1037185) said:
@Russell said in [Farah](/post/1037018) said:
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1036856) said:
Farah has been our best dummy half choice all season especially since Liddle hasn't been available for a large part of it. Tonight, however he looked very slow with his service - especially the way he couldn't bend down and his passing was off as well, which makes me think that his back was definitely a problem.
I have to agree that it's time for him to hang up the boots at the end of this season.
However, Liddle has done nothing to show me that he's the answer. Sure he's quicker out of dummy half, but he does not possess the guile and dummy half cunning of Farah and has no kicking game at all. Also Liddle makes a lot of mistakes in a game and is not as defensively sound. Overall he's an amateur compared to Farah.

You are joking, aren't you?

Liddle is what 23 and Farah is 35 - give the kid a go.

I also thought Farah was mentoring Liddle - doing a great job of pinching the DH role whilst they were both on the field.


Unfortunately for us, its no joke. You have a point that Liddle’s much younger than Farah, so he hasn’t got the experience, (which basically supports my argument) but he’s been in and around NRL long enough. How many seasons have we been waiting for him to “be ready”? There are younger hookers coming into the game showing more than him. How long does he need to be able to play 80 minutes?? How long does the club wait?
You say give him a go. I think he’s had a go plenty of times (it wasn’t Farah keeping him out for years now), but hasn’t been able to establish himself. Farah was 21 in 2005!
My point was also questioning his all round game as a dummy half and that it doesn’t seem to have developed at all. Look at the great hookers going around, they have many more skills in their game.

Once again comparing "great" dummy halves (they are not hookers anymore) to a 22 yo in Liddle. He has been around since 2016 and played 35 games in one of the most demanding positions on the field.

Most of those games were 10-25 minute stints - you said "I think he’s had a go plenty of times" - well I don't and who said he can't play 80 minutes - plenty of people have said it but have they seen him collapse in a heap before he got to 80?

Unfortunately I think he won't have his contract extended - not a Madge favorite imo (maybe they are waiting for another club to pinch him) - so it will be another case of the one that got away. This club.......

I think Liddle will be given a new contract..

I hope you are right Geo - I really hope you are right.

Giving every chance to other clubs to grab him though.
 
@Harvey said in [Farah](/post/1037189) said:
Liddle spent most of his time on the field standing around. When he went to dummy half, Farah shoved him aside, but then all of a sudden we had centres at dummy half because Robbie decided he was playing 5/8 that play (or could not get across the field). That was one of the most selfish performances I have ever seen.

Admittedly there were some good long kicks, but this is again Robbie deciding when he will kick rather than allowing the halves to kick.

Brooks will never have an opportunity to control a game as long as Robbie is dummy half. Liddle should have been playing 40-50 minutes for the last month with Robbie playing the 1st and last 15-20 of a game.

THIS.

Farah ignored the kid and went to dummy half.

Farah took himself out to 6.

Farah put himself in at first receiver.

Farah tried to win the game and do it all.....................................good traits maybe, but he CAN'T do it all and has not been able to for years.

His dominance of the team is killing the others development.
 
@TigerSJ said in [Farah](/post/1036856) said:
Farah has been our best dummy half choice all season especially since Liddle hasn't been available for a large part of it. Tonight, however he looked very slow with his service - especially the way he couldn't bend down and his passing was off as well, which makes me think that his back was definitely a problem.
I have to agree that it's time for him to hang up the boots at the end of this season.
However, Liddle has done nothing to show me that he's the answer. Sure he's quicker out of dummy half, but he does not possess the guile and dummy half cunning of Farah and has no kicking game at all. Also Liddle makes a lot of mistakes in a game and is not as defensively sound. Overall he's an amateur compared to Farah.

Liddle hasn't been given the chance to show much at all. He is generally coming on when the game is done and dusted. And last night he had to put up with Farah pushing him out of DH. I'll reserve my judgement on him until he is starting the game and doesn't have father timecalling the shots.
 
@Tigerstar ...I think the saddest thing is we took onboard all the clubs talk a few years ago, that their hands were tired by very poor cap management by the previous administration and we had to swallow our medicine and wait a few years before things could happen. Than came along Ivan and put us back to square one.

So now not only do we have a lot of Money tired up in players that nobody wants but we also have a cap penalty. Realistically it will be another two years before the mess is cleared again
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Farah](/post/1037132) said:
@The_Patriot said in [Farah](/post/1037122) said:
Funny how people turn. Almost like they've been saving it up all season

Not to pat myself on the back, but I predicted a few times over the off season that he would look cooked by the halfway point of the season and it would be obvious that he went around a year too long. That’s exactly what’s happened. He’s not Cameron Smith.

Keeping in mind that it is only your opinion that he has played one season too many.
 

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