Has there ever been less excitement around the Tigers?

@batboy said:
HAHA!! - I love when someone buys a $50 membership and thinks they own the club because they're "Investing" in it's day to day operations…

YOU ARE A CUSTOMER - Nothing more, Nothing less....

Would like me asking to see McDonalds P&L's cos I bought a cheeseburger...

How many did you get?

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Been out of town for a few days with no internet,so first thing I do when I get home,check out the Tiger talk and as usual nothing ever changes,no new signings,no exciting announcements from HQ,just the same old same old.

If the people who visit this forum are struggling to get excited, imagine how non fanatical supporters must feel of course if their are any left.

I agree with Eddie and most people,this year and looking into the future leaves me feeling very flat. I now do not loose any sleep on how they perform and have very little expectations if any on how the team will perform. Basically their is nothing to get excited about,they play a drab style of football,they have no money to build a competive roster,they can not attract TPA,s like other clubs and at present they have very few real NRL standard players on their books.

I really would love to be optimistic and excited,but year after year we plod along and nothing ever happens. I certainly will not be renewing my membership next year,just my way of a little protest
 
We have nothing to be excited about…..then i look at Parra and think quite possibly they maybe in a bigger mess than the WT.
 
@batboy said:
HAHA!! - I love when someone buys a $50 membership and thinks they own the club because they're "Investing" in it's day to day operations…

YOU ARE A CUSTOMER - Nothing more, Nothing less....

Would like me asking to see McDonalds P&L's cos I bought a cheeseburger...

Well Batboy,your input is some what critical of someone saying their opinion of memberships,firstly,I have never said I own the club,secondly it is my choice to purchase a membership,no one else's,I do however wonder what the members that pay up to $1500 per season get for their money,are they not permitted to enquire in what direction the club is going or what the club is doing for the " future membership purchasers" to keep them paying year in and year out…Iam not privy to any information nor amI expecting any,but if everyone who does pay whatever in membership,suddenly stops,where would the club start looking for income ,membership is a huge part of any club,it's not the be all and end all,but it is just as important in the bank come bill paying time...just my thoughts....
 
@TrueTiger said:
@batboy said:
HAHA!! - I love when someone buys a $50 membership and thinks they own the club because they're "Investing" in it's day to day operations…

YOU ARE A CUSTOMER - Nothing more, Nothing less....

Would like me asking to see McDonalds P&L's cos I bought a cheeseburger...

Well Batboy,your input is some what critical of someone saying their opinion of memberships,firstly,I have never said I own the club,secondly it is my choice to purchase a membership,no one else's,I do however wonder what the members that pay up to $1500 per season get for their money,are they not permitted to enquire in what direction the club is going or what the club is doing for the " future membership purchasers" to keep them paying year in and year out…Iam not privy to any information nor amI expecting any,but if everyone who does pay whatever in membership,suddenly stops,where would the club start looking for income ,membership is a huge part of any club,it's not the be all and end all,but it is just as important in the bank come bill paying time...just my thoughts....

I assume batboy is a platinum member (or more) and long term member of WT, as I am.

Parting with my cash does not make me more entitled to an opinion, but in deciding to part with my cash, I feel it shows a commitment to the club and, probably, an expectation that things are going to get better.

But, I don't feel that. Hence, why I think this is a valid topic.

And, I don't plan to keep going on forever with my investment, with such little return to the "hip pocket" of the mental/emotional state of excitement and contentment as I feel at the moment.

That's the reality this club faces right now.
 
@MightyMaggy said:
@TrueTiger said:
If this board wakes up to itself and employs a CEO that has rugby league and very good business knowledge and starts to have the interest of the survival of the club at heart and not their own…then we may be a chance of surging forward on the front foot...for to long we have had a dis functional board interested only in their own interests and politics..now is the time to start being accountable to the sponsors,fans and members..the garbage has to be taken out and the place cleaned...we need

1\. JT to be accountable for the lack lustre performances..(no excuses for poor training etc)
2.the board must first and foremost pull all financials into perspective..
3.purchasing NRL quality players to balance with the young guns.
4.communicating to the members at every opportunity to let them know where their investment money has gone,and revenue coming in such as new sponsors..
5.start being a professionally run club at all levels as to promote confidence within that club..

These things are just my opinion,however being in volved in a corporate environment for years,you can't just hit and hope...you must have forward planning and good business management,this is what has been lacking for along time at this club and to many things taken for granted..it will take time and if this board is fair dinkum about the future of the club,this is a great platform to start from..they cant afford to leave a stone unturned..

I never ever thought I would say this,but if the WTs have another two years like this one and going nowhere then I will give up on them and follow another sport,what has been dished up to us the fans ,members and supporters is unacceptable in these economic and modern times..

I was also involved in running several businesses as the General Manager over a period of more than twenty years. Your cry for better planning and governance from the Board and the Management is to be applauded, but there are a couple of problems in achieving these improvements.

The position at the 19th March, 2014, according to Wests Tigers was:-

**Wests Tigers is a joint-venture between Balmain Tigers Rugby League Football Club (Balmain Tigers) and Western Suburbs Rugby League Football Group (Wests Group), with funding shortfalls historically covered with a 50/50 split between the two shareholders. Due to a range of circumstances for the past three seasons this shareholder funding has not occurred to a sufficient level.\
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On the basis of this Wests Tigers sought assistance, direction and leadership from the NRL, which over time has evolved into a complete governance and financial reform of Wests Tigers.\
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It became clear that the financial position of Wests Tigers could not be stabilised without governance reform, a process which has been going on for the past six months and is drawing to a conclusion. The result of this governance reform will be a change in Wests Tigers’ structure at board level, with two representatives from Wests Group, two from Balmain Tigers and three Independent Directors. Representation by the shareholders on the reformed board is subject to meeting shareholder funding obligations.**

Wests Tigers Board is accountable to the Wests Group, Balmain Tigers and the NRL, as they have invested money on the joint-venture. This may change at the 19th March next year, if Balmain default on their loan from the NRL. While the Board needs to have the Wests Tigers operation appeal to sponsor, fans and members (season ticket holders) to be successful, they do NOT have to be accountable to them.

While I agree with four of your points, it would not be prudent to communicate to the members at every opportunity to let them know where their investment money has gone and revenue coming in such as new sponsors, because the members are NOT share holders and have no investment money. Much of this financial information would be considered to be confidential and should not be widely communicated to people not part of the business or employees, who do not require the information to do their job..

Agree with most of what you say except to point out that while Balmain have two members on the board, they do not have voting rights until they pay off their loan. If they don't they will no longer be part of the Wests Tigers. So at the moment the NRL have the majority on the board.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Russell said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
Russell, has the sense of humour gone on holidays lOl

Not sure I know what that means GCT - enlighten me please.

The post that gave me a negative notification for was mostly a tongue in cheek post, most got it , obviously not all

Didn't read like that too me - obviously it did go on holidays. Let me know next time that you post TIC so I can laugh along GTC.
 
@Russell said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Russell said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
Russell, has the sense of humour gone on holidays lOl

Not sure I know what that means GCT - enlighten me please.

The post that gave me a negative notification for was mostly a tongue in cheek post, most got it , obviously not all

Didn't read like that too me - obviously it did go on holidays. Let me know next time that you post TIC so I can laugh along GTC.

No probs
 
@batboy said:
HAHA!! - I love when someone buys a $50 membership and thinks they own the club because they're "Investing" in it's day to day operations…

YOU ARE A CUSTOMER - Nothing more, Nothing less....

Would like me asking to see McDonalds P&L's cos I bought a cheeseburger...

I love it when someone buys a $50 membership …......... because they are investing in its day to day operations. I love it even more when those that are able, choose to invest their fifteen hundred odd in exchange for a few extras in their package.

Pretty sure the staff that need to be paid are quite glad that there is a core group of people, that on top of investing their hard earned via membership year upon year, are also the major purchasers of apparel.

I am a Johnny come lately, having only signed up as a member for a few years now and only an odd purchase, but thank all that have been helping to keep our club afloat for the past fifteen years, with whatever "investment" they have contributed.
 
@formerguest said:
@batboy said:
HAHA!! - I love when someone buys a $50 membership and thinks they own the club because they're "Investing" in it's day to day operations…

YOU ARE A CUSTOMER - Nothing more, Nothing less....

Would like me asking to see McDonalds P&L's cos I bought a cheeseburger...

I love it when someone buys a $50 membership …......... because they are investing in its day to day operations. I love it even more when those that are able, choose to invest their fifteen hundred odd in exchange for a few extras in their package.

Pretty sure the staff that need to be paid are quite glad that there is a core group of people, that on top of investing their hard earned via membership year upon year, are also the major purchasers of apparel.

I am a Johnny come lately, having only signed up as a member for a few years now and only an odd purchase, but thank all that have been helping to keep our club afloat for the past fifteen years, with whatever "investment" they have contributed.

Every little bit helps, no matter how big or small the amount. Well said FG! :slight_smile:
 
I paid in front for my four game Leichhardt Oval pack,went to the first one.

But missed the last one and TBH not too keen on this one.

Normally Im jumping out of my skin for a Lilyfield game but this year has just been so deflating.

Maybe i will get geed in a few days but atm im just not feeling it.
 
I'm not bagging any member (New or old)
- Merely stating that being a Wests Tigers "Member" is a touch different to being a "Shareholder" As a Member
- What makes anyone think we are entitled to Profit / Loss statements or detailed costs?
Where does it end? Are we "entitled" to review player contracts, Staff salaries, Fuel Expenditures… NO - Nor would we expect to be.
WE ARE CUSTOMERS!!
- People seem to think it's 1975 Where because you're a member of a "Leagues Club" that you get invited to an annual membership meeting and browse over the financials... Wests Tigers isn't a leagues club - It's a football club.
And our memberships are supporter based.

By all means, Be a member - spend as much as you can, and ask every tigers fan you know to do the same... I DO!! But I can assure you that when you buy said membership, You are not automatically entitled to an opinion on how to run the joint.
IF you feel this is your expertise - I suggest you make your way onto the board.
 
@batboy said:
I'm not bagging any member (New or old)
- Merely stating that being a Wests Tigers "Member" is a touch different to being a "Shareholder" As a Member
- What makes anyone think we are entitled to Profit / Loss statements or detailed costs?
Where does it end? Are we "entitled" to review player contracts, Staff salaries, Fuel Expenditures… NO - Nor would we expect to be.
WE ARE CUSTOMERS!!
- People seem to think it's 1975 Where because you're a member of a "Leagues Club" that you get invited to an annual membership meeting and browse over the financials... Wests Tigers isn't a leagues club - It's a football club.
And our memberships are supporter based.

By all means, Be a member - spend as much as you can, and ask every tigers fan you know to do the same... I DO!! But I can assure you that when you buy said membership, You are not automatically entitled to an opinion on how to run the joint.
IF you feel this is your expertise - I suggest you make your way onto the board.

Batboy,being a member doesnt give me a right to any financials or an opinion on how to run the "joint",however being a member of the forum I have every right to an opinion without you or anyone else bagging me out for it…you seem to be in the 1975 mode as well as only a mere customer mode,I take pride in supporting the WTs and will support them in any way I can,as for having an opinion on how the joint should run,its my opinion and I will cast it however I see fit..it is an opinion only...one day I may find my way onto the board if I so please,once again,this is entirely up to me as is paying membership as is giving an opinion on the forum without belittling or bagging someone elses opinion...
 
@batboy said:
Your point 4, Would argue this point…

This is mainly directed at what Mayer said about keeping members informed of new signings and new sponsors,and where funds will be spent in the next year..no arguement,maybe I should have worded it this way..
 
Well somehow 14K turned up today. Pretty good effort.

And we dish up that? Three times this year now spanked at Leichhardt as favourites.

Dont expect over 10K at another home game unless another Sydnet team brings 8K.

Trying to sell memberships next year will be hard work. Club looks in free fall to me, i don't think we have hit rock bottom yet.
 
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