Bus 2 Terrigal Lagoon
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Lighten up dude 🥴
HBG, Independent Directors Sacked
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diedpretty
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But, but, but ........... if we are Wests Tigers and not Balmain nor Wests magpies why would half the supporter base have been obliterated.
diedpretty
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And yet there are people on here who still say half the fan base would walk away if Balmain weren't involved in some form.
Bus 2 Terrigal Lagoon
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Well said Lestronge.
That’s exactly the reason why the once great Canterbury Bankstown club died back in the early 1980s. They made the fatal decision in 1977 to switch from The Berries to The Bulldogs.
Fans couldn’t cope !
#TragicTale #Sacrilege #Emblematic
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I can only speak for myself, but here's my take. I moved to Australia about 20 years ago and happened to end up in Balmain. I picked the Tigers because they were clearly the local team, and over time I've picked up various Tigers-supporting friends, been a member since 2009 and generally gone from passing interest to died in the wool fan. I never knew the Balmain Tigers and couldn't give a monkeys about their board or whether it's represented in the governance of the Wests Tigers. To the extent that I might have cared it died when that organisation allowed itself to be euthenised by Ben Elias and thus ceased to have financial relevance.
I don't have any interest in the team being the Balmain Tigers - that's not the team I started supporting. And yet I also don't want it to be the Western Suburbs Magpies and would consider it becoming so a betrayal. Why? Two main reasons:
- I became a rugby league fan in the Inner West, specifically in Balmain, and, as I said, the Tigers were my local team. That matters to me and I suspect it matters more to Inner West people who have lifetime or generational allegiance. Which leads me to:
- The Wests Tigers has its own identity but part of that is the combined history of Wests and Balmain. Obliterating half of that because of who currently happens to hold the financial whip hand would be a shoddy, low class move. I'd feel the same if it was the other way round.
Ultimately, the clowns in charge need to understand that they are custodians of something bigger than themselves - especially these particular clowns, who don't even own the corporate entity. The heritage, roots and history of the Wests Tigers shouldn't be something they can touch.
Jedi_Tiger
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No interest at all in the Balmain tigers coming back. What is said was if a name change was to occur Wests Tigers to Wests Magpies then half a fanbase would likely leave as in theory it would be a new club
Bus 2 Terrigal Lagoon
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In theory, it wouldn’t be a new club at all !
Wests have been around since 1908, and Wests Ashfield (aka HBG) have been their benefactor since 1955.
The emblem is but a piffling matter of branding.
Wests rebranded as Wests
Nothing new about that 🤷♂️
"HBG" is not the problem it's the drop kicks that represent them and their lack of accountability for doing a rubbish job. They are protected species until they turn on each other. That is not professional governance and that is why our administration is not respected by anyone in the NRL despite the defensive reactions by old Magpie fans who will support them no matter what as long as they maintain control.
Put the right people in control working for WTs and then HBG all the way.
Put the right people in control working for WTs and then HBG all the way.
magpies forever
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FWIW I'm all for getting rid of the debenture system not HBG. But, I imagine the debenture holders would have to vote to cease the system. I'm not holding my breath on that. As to our emblem I'm more and more for a new emblem and brand with small shoulder patches with the tiger and magpie to reflect our heritage but a totally new brand to go forward. I'm sick of the in fighting the Tiger vs Magpie emblem but I will note the passion is not meant with hate.
Jedi_Tiger
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it would go from being wests TIGERS
a hard thing for you to say as you always refer to them as T's
it would be a new club if it reverted to wests magpies what are you talking about.
Same as if they elected to go the Dolphins route and drop the wests and just call them tigers.
it would be a new club
after 25 years keep it as wests tigers
As long as the club remains the wests tigers and HBG dont push the wests magpies agenda, then i doubt that ever happens.
diedpretty
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i agree - so maybe those who keep pushing this barrow should drop it.
diedpretty
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that wasn't what the original post to which you replied was about at all - it was comparing the other 2 JVs who dumped or devoured their partner compared to HBG keeping Balmain on as a partner. There was no mention of name changes - and lets be honest - even you must know the magpies will not return to the NRL. So had HBG dumped Balmain the club would have remained as Wests Tigers. So my question was why would half the fanbase walk away.
Bus 2 Terrigal Lagoon
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Nah mate.
If I painted my home and changed the front porch plaque from Kia Ora to Emoh Ruo ...
It's still the same old house 🙄
Jedi_Tiger
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tell that to a north sydney bear supporter when they look at manly
Jedi_Tiger
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the meaning of my post was by reference of dumping the Tiger, e.g. in 2012 when balmain went bust and western suburbs reverting to wests magpies.
if hbg had dumped balmain back in 2012 and kept wests tigers terrific great no problem which they did.
if hbg had in 2012 changed from wests tigers to wests magpies, I dare say half of the LO membership base would have deserted the club.
if they came in now and changed St George Illawarra Dragons to Illawarra Steelers what do you think the St George part of the JV fanbase would do, they would probably chuck it in.
We are fortunate the club works well over two geographical areas inner west and south west)
Hopefully PVL blocks any HBG attempted name change in 2030
twentyforty
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The difference is in the strength of the agreement negotiations and as a consequence the branding. St George dragons became “st George Illawarra dragons” while the other joint venture became Manly Norths Eagles, not far away from “sea eagles”, so the dilution of Illawarra and norths became a fait accompli more or less.
Our situation is more complex with two struggling clubs forming a new identity with branding continually being weakened and held in place by a heritage deed that may not be renewed in 2030, which could allow the team to be known as wests magpies?
Bus 2 Terrigal Lagoon
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Ah yes, but in that particularly tragic instance, one needs to include a north of the harbour,
Three Little Pigs clause.
The Norths - Manly house was very clumsily built of cut price straw and this ramshackle abode was easily huffed & puffed into oblivion by an unruly eagles fan returning home from a big night on The Corso and with a penchant for howling at the moon.
Hopefully the Bears learned their lesson from the ensuing quarter of a century of homelessness and the new Perth address is constructed of top quality double-brick.
“The Three Little Pigs” is a rich tale that, through Jungian analysis, reveals important psychological insights. The pigs’ journey from building fragile houses to a sturdy brick home symbolizes the path to individuation and maturity. The Big Bad Wolf serves as the shadow that must be faced and overcome. Ultimately, the story teaches the value of resilience, preparedness, and the integration of all aspects of the self to achieve psychological wholeness and strength".
#YourWelcome
wstigers11
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He’s already told them wests tigers is going nowhere, time for them to find a new dream
weststigers
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No one says that.
They say if the name changed from Wests Tigers, people would walk.
There are kids that have only known Wests Tigers for 26 years.
