hybrid_tiger
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@Magpie Magic said:
3/15\. It hasn't worked.
How politicking and empire building ruined Wests Tigers
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3/15\. It hasn't worked.
If you think 1 premiership and a couple of semis appearances is a success, you have low standards.
This club should be a powerhouse in the NRL. I believe it is in the top 4 most supported clubs, the branding is one of if not the best in the league. Internal crap, bad marketing and failure to keep the old dinosaurs has lead to us being one of the weaker clubs.
This club should be a powerhouse in the NRL. I believe it is in the top 4 most supported clubs, the branding is one of if not the best in the league. Internal crap, bad marketing and failure to keep the old dinosaurs has lead to us being one of the weaker clubs.
I know this fanbase as a hard time of letting go of old habits, but if Wests Tigers are to move into ANZ Stadium, can we please stop referring to it as Homebush.
It hasn't been Homebush since 2009 (officially at least). ANZ Stadium sits in Sydney Olympic Park. It's a little thing, but just as annoying as people who STILL refer to Robbie as Farrah.
It hasn't been Homebush since 2009 (officially at least). ANZ Stadium sits in Sydney Olympic Park. It's a little thing, but just as annoying as people who STILL refer to Robbie as Farrah.
Magpie_Magic
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But thats just it.
We gave got good branding and are well supported so that is a tick for the way its set up.
Which other club in Sydney has more than 1 cup last 15yrs. Only Manly and they had Dank. Look at the dogs 1 cup 2 spoons plus they scored up at Coffs.
Nothing to write home about.
All our issues are connected to Balmain going broke. If we end up in Perth that will be the only reason not the board.
Our inability to pay players under and over the table is also connected to this.
We gave got good branding and are well supported so that is a tick for the way its set up.
Which other club in Sydney has more than 1 cup last 15yrs. Only Manly and they had Dank. Look at the dogs 1 cup 2 spoons plus they scored up at Coffs.
Nothing to write home about.
All our issues are connected to Balmain going broke. If we end up in Perth that will be the only reason not the board.
Our inability to pay players under and over the table is also connected to this.
balmain boy
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The article is pretty spot on. What's it's source?
Although anyone mentioning relocation should just give themselves an uppercut, or at least invite us all to give them one. Seriously it's just stupid. There are several other clubs up for relocation before we are, so forget about it.
We represent areas very important to the NRL and they won't leave them unguarded.
AFL is not a serious threat. It's not popular, GWS is+will fail miserably and the city is quite capable of accommodating the Swans and the NRL.
The ALeague is mostly run during the off season so again, it's not really competition.
And also fans need to remember that 3 independent board members may not always vote in uniform!! They are 3 independent people with no affiliation to one another. They may well agree on certain topics due to a certain level of business acumen but it's naive to think that all board members will vote according to who they 'belong' to rather than for what they think is the best thing to do personally.
Although anyone mentioning relocation should just give themselves an uppercut, or at least invite us all to give them one. Seriously it's just stupid. There are several other clubs up for relocation before we are, so forget about it.
We represent areas very important to the NRL and they won't leave them unguarded.
AFL is not a serious threat. It's not popular, GWS is+will fail miserably and the city is quite capable of accommodating the Swans and the NRL.
The ALeague is mostly run during the off season so again, it's not really competition.
And also fans need to remember that 3 independent board members may not always vote in uniform!! They are 3 independent people with no affiliation to one another. They may well agree on certain topics due to a certain level of business acumen but it's naive to think that all board members will vote according to who they 'belong' to rather than for what they think is the best thing to do personally.
A very well written article …...... couldn't have been in the telegraph ...... their standards of journalism are not so high. The sad part about people saying it hasnt worked is that there is no reason it can't work ...... if people want it to work it can ........ but the key is letting go of the past and moving on with the future ...... and that's what the article emphasises. As I have mentioned many times before, the independants coming on is like a new broom sweeping out the cobwebs.
supercoach
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The bottom line , the independent board has to be set up and set up fast, the joint venture will self destruct within five years if we keep going the way we are, its that simple. Partnerships are always very hard to control and manage especially when they are a fifty fifty partnership, thats why take overs have more success.
All I want is a quality football team without all the backroom and off field crap, so who ever can deliver will get my vote
All I want is a quality football team without all the backroom and off field crap, so who ever can deliver will get my vote
cqtiger
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@supercoach said:
Phht
Do you honestly believe that most Wests Tigers supporters are members of this forum?
That'll do me
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supercoach
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@cqtiger said:
Magpie_Magic
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@supercoach said:
What evidence is there takeovers are more successful than mergers or joint ventures?
Can think of many mergers and JVs in the financial world that are very successful.
If a takeover is better who takes over?
hybrid_tiger
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@Magpie Magic said:
We have among the worst membership numbers in the NRL, so how are we "well supported"?
It's not about having more than one premiership, it's about the fact that 12 out of 15 years we have failed to finish in the top 8 of a 16 team competition. That is simply unacceptable. We are a losing club.
happy_tiger
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@Geo. said:
Sorry Geo
But you don't think another NRL club would jump in and fill the void quite easily ??
Its like I said to someone else, at least we knew the agendas of Balmain and the Wests factions
We have no idea what the NRL's agenda is
Hopefully they just want to see a healthy NRL club , but if they are still thinking expansion and relocation …............ 😱pen_mouth: 😢
@happy tiger said:
Transplanted teams have never worked. Northern Eagles Central Coast ring a bell..If for example it was to Perth they deserve their own team..
Dave Smith has been quoted as saying the existing Clubs need to consolidate before expansion is considered….Wests Tigers has a large supporter base that would be lost in relocation...I don't feel the NRL would like that...
happy_tiger
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@Geo. said:
How many transplanted teams have we had to base these facts on ??
No one likes Manly Geo
Marshall_magic
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Great article, you'd be pressed to find a Tigers fan who doesn't agree with it.
@happy tiger said:
We just have to look at our own backyard for a perfect example - western suburbs!
The Magpies were never truly embraced by the Macarthur region, seen as fly ins from the inner west who set up camp in a foreign area.
The magpies had a proud 70 year history in what is now Sydney's inner west, and people don't just forget that and pretend they never represented a different region.
The whole relocation thing is a bad idea … For a club to succeed in a new area it has to be a new club, not a somebody else's failed project looking for a new start.
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happy_tiger
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@Abraham said:
Yeah I see what your saying Abraham , but do you think the Magpies actually went backwards after we moved to Campbelltown
We were going fairly well until Super League came along in my opinion
Things weren't great but they weren't bad either
Michaelson
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fwiw, the author of this article (who is a friend of mine) writes a weekly rugby league column called [From The Couch](http://makingthenut.com/from-the-couch-round-22-5/) on his website, which is a bit more off the cuff than his stuff in The Guardian but well worth checking out in my admittedly biased opinion.
@happy tiger said:
HaHa..way to ignore the rest of the post Happy…Manly will do that to you....doesn't change the fact it failed miserably..
OK lets look at the success of previous expansion teams shall we...Western Reds, South Qld Crushers, Adelaide Rams, Hunter Mariners all failed..Melbourne Storm the only success due to the fact News Ltd poor millions into the joint and cover their financial losses...
What makes you think a relocated Wests Tigers would be a success?
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