It would be cheaper to pay out Jason Taylors final two years than to get rid of Robbie.

[Geo]

Has the issue of the breach notice issued made the media yet (apart from Boza)…I mean it pretty huge in the scheme of thing?...would have thought Buzz Weidler Hoops Ritchie Mashood en co would have been all over it...?

 

[NT_Tiger]

Having had many experiences like this in business I agree. .it's called constructive dismissal and I think that if it is true then JT is in big trouble and the Board has been exposed .

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Farah has not been dismissed, threatened with dismissal, nor has he resigned but by my understanding whoever made the statement (presumably JT or Reddy) could still have to answer to the above charge. I think it will depend on definitions and exactly what was said.
I don't necessarily agree that the board has been exposed if they weren't party to the discussion and did not know ahead of time what would be said.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Now bobo, which court would this be?
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Some of the dribble that’s been mentioned over the past few pages is unbelievable

 

[bobo125]

Has the issue of the breach notice issued made the media yet (apart from Boza)…I mean it pretty huge in the scheme of thing?...would have thought Buzz Weidler Hoops Ritchie Mashood en co would have been all over it...?

in normal scenario like this, the RLPA would have - via their legal team - issued a please explain type document.
Lawyers will communicate (formally) in attempting to address and resolve the issue before the "we're going to court" button is pressed.
it is the same in most legal dealings.

until the "we're going to court" button is hit, it remains "communication being held by both parties".
in light of that, there cant be any public comment made as anything said in the public domain can impact an outcome and or cause someone to themselves be at risk of legal ramifications.

 

[bobo125]

Having had many experiences like this in business I agree. .it's called constructive dismissal and I think that if it is true then JT is in big trouble and the Board has been exposed .

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Farah has not been dismissed, threatened with dismissal, nor has he resigned but by my understanding whoever made the statement (presumably JT or Reddy) could still have to answer to the above charge. I think it will depend on definitions and exactly what was said.
I don't necessarily agree that the board has been exposed if they weren't party to the discussion and did not know ahead of time what would be said.

unfortunately it dosnt work like that.
whilst the board may not have been present, once they were made aware of what was said, they are then in part responsible for their employees behavior.
responsible to take whatever the appropriate action is required.
If they do not, then legally it is viewed as they too are complicit in the illegal action.

 

[Geo]

So it's just heresay then..

Wouldn't Boza be breaking the law mentioning it…?

 

[cqtiger]

Instead of paying 50 - 75% of his contract if Robbie plays at another club, the Tigers will just pay him all that he is owed and shake hands goodbye.

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[bobo125]

So it's just heresay then..

at this stage im quite sure everyone understands that it was said and its certainly NOT hearsay

 

[innsaneink]

Ink from the stories I've read it was said, or indicated, at a meeting between Taylor, Reddy, Farah and Ayoub.

Either Taylor or Reddy said it. Or maybe both?

Thats what I thouht….I guess if it comes down to swearing on oath, thats one thing, but as it stands this part is just he said she said imo

**_<big>i believe Taylor openly admitted it at a press conference 2 days later when asked about the reserve grade threat.</big>_**
he replied (in kind) - yes things were said in that meeting that were said in the heat of the situation.

There is no conjecture about the fact that the threat was said and made.
That is not in dispute at all actually.

you can also bet your last penny on the fact that if Taylor had infact NOT said that, he would have come out both guns firing at Laurey Daely, cameron Smith, FOX sports and everyone else that has reported it and stated "what a thing to say"
Taylor would have 100% come out and put that on blast !!!

it now just forms a piece of the puzzle in how the situation was managed by the coach.

Got a link to that presser?

 

[guyofthetiger]

A new coach is surely just more of the same old same old…

If Robbie moves on, we have to stick with Taylor.

I don't think we'll do any worse in 2016 than we did this year, but I think we'll at least be in the best possible position for 2017.

The whole spine should be firing by then once Cherrington has a year under his belt.

Any way we go, 2016 is not going to be great.

Let's at least give the current course of action every opportunity for success.

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[innsaneink]

So it's just heresay then..

at this stage im quite sure everyone understands that it was said and its certainly NOT hearsay

Just speak for yourself, you DONT speak for everyone.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Ink from the stories I've read it was said, or indicated, at a meeting between Taylor, Reddy, Farah and Ayoub.

Either Taylor or Reddy said it. Or maybe both?

Thats what I thouht….I guess if it comes down to swearing on oath, thats one thing, but as it stands this part is just he said she said imo

**_<big>i believe Taylor openly admitted it at a press conference 2 days later when asked about the reserve grade threat.</big>_**
he replied (in kind) - yes things were said in that meeting that were said in the heat of the situation.

There is no conjecture about the fact that the threat was said and made.
That is not in dispute at all actually.

you can also bet your last penny on the fact that if Taylor had infact NOT said that, he would have come out both guns firing at Laurey Daely, cameron Smith, FOX sports and everyone else that has reported it and stated "what a thing to say"
Taylor would have 100% come out and put that on blast !!!

it now just forms a piece of the puzzle in how the situation was managed by the coach.

Got a link to that presser?

I guess the lack of response means no Link Ink

 

[innsaneink]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

 

[Geo]

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2015/08/27/press_conference_jas.html

Here are..

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

Yeah, I haven’t seen it confirmed or denied anywhere either, on day 1 of all this NRL 360 reported that he was told he MIGHT play reserve grade, a significant difference to WILL, and as said, all hearsay

Have been amused with some of Bobo’s attempt at legal jargon and knowledge, a please explain document… What is that? A piece of paper issued by Pauline Hanson perhaps

 

[gallagher]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

And the only person who has reported the breach notice was Bosnich. One of Ayoubs clients i think. All the stench is coming from that group.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

And the only person who has reported the breach notice was Bosnich. One of Ayoubs clients i think. All the stench is coming from that group.

And a breach notice is generally issued by a landlord or agent to a tenant, or an organisation like the NRL would issue to a club for not abiding by the rules, not by the RLPA.

 

[bobo125]

Yep, no link for ink stinks

In fact I dont think its been confirmed or denied anywhere, bar what farah and our good mate Bobo says.

And ironically, if it was said… it was said in confidence and behind closed doors, then it was farah who mentioned/leaked this to the media....him of all people after what he said to tallis early last year about Potter, and what Tallis subsequently told all, after being put on the spot by Sammy

Yeah, I haven’t seen it confirmed or denied anywhere either, on day 1 of all this NRL 360 reported that he was told he MIGHT play reserve grade, a significant difference to WILL, and as said, all hearsay

Have been amused with some of Bobo’s attempt at legal jargon and knowledge, a please explain document… What is that? A piece of paper issued by Pauline Hanson perhaps

mate im certainly not trying to argue or convince you to change your mind or thoughts or support of who ever you do or dont etc etc etc
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ive merely been explaining what this is from a legal view point.
and i was attempting to outline how something like this would be played out in a legal sense.

whatever your stance is fine.

the point im making is - regardless of the job or occupation or industry
you cannot threaten someone with an action that is designed to make them quit their job.

as for the leagl process'es.
Anyone will tell you before you end up in court, the lawyers / representatives will have a period of communication before they agree that the matter needs to be decided by the courts.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Having had many experiences like this in business I agree. .it's called constructive dismissal and I think that if it is true then JT is in big trouble and the Board has been exposed .

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Farah has not been dismissed, threatened with dismissal, nor has he resigned but by my understanding whoever made the statement (presumably JT or Reddy) could still have to answer to the above charge. I think it will depend on definitions and exactly what was said.
I don't necessarily agree that the board has been exposed if they weren't party to the discussion and did not know ahead of time what would be said.

unfortunately it dosnt work like that.
whilst the board may not have been present, once they were made aware of what was said, they are then in part responsible for their employees behavior.
responsible to take whatever the appropriate action is required.
If they do not, then legally it is viewed as they too are complicit in the illegal action.

bobo I think you're jumping through some big assumptions to some big conclusions.
It may be a long stretch for anything at all to result from any constructive dismissal proceeding, if one eventuates. It will depend on exactly what was said, and definitions of what constitutes a constructive dismissal.
By my understanding it's not always straight forward, so we're a long way from talking 'illegal action'.

 

[bobo125]

Having had many experiences like this in business I agree. .it's called constructive dismissal and I think that if it is true then JT is in big trouble and the Board has been exposed .

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Farah has not been dismissed, threatened with dismissal, nor has he resigned but by my understanding whoever made the statement (presumably JT or Reddy) could still have to answer to the above charge. I think it will depend on definitions and exactly what was said.
I don't necessarily agree that the board has been exposed if they weren't party to the discussion and did not know ahead of time what would be said.

unfortunately it dosnt work like that.
whilst the board may not have been present, once they were made aware of what was said, they are then in part responsible for their employees behavior.
responsible to take whatever the appropriate action is required.
If they do not, then legally it is viewed as they too are complicit in the illegal action.

bobo I think you're jumping through some big assumptions to some big conclusions.
It may be a long stretch for anything at all to result from any constructive dismissal proceeding, if one eventuates. It will depend on exactly what was said, and definitions of what constitutes a constructive dismissal.
By my understanding it's not always straight forward, so we're a long way from talking 'illegal action'.

mate i agree
these type of cases are never easy and straight forward and to be quite blatently honest in all my time in the legal system i have seen many more cases settled outside of court than go through the system.

ill clarify what im saying.
my understanding - based on the info i have at hand - is that :
what JT said to Farah (confirmed / unconfirmed etc) cannot be said under the laws that govern workplace agreements in Australia.

As his employer, the west tiger club would be complicit if they accepted that JTs actions / threat in this regard are ok.

this is totally separate from if Robbie deserves this or not or hy this has happened and whos bigger and badder etc etc etc
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