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Still runs good lines even now.
Ivan Cleary - THREAD..
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Still runs good lines even now.
innsaneink
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costly mistake leutele
balmain boy
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Yeah i hate how they need the attention on themselves all the time. Benji should shut his trap
diedpretty
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Wa_Mag_Tig
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They should just shut their traps??? Are you fxxxxxxxkn kidding yourself Lauren. They are both a steady add to our team this year and I think also next year. Not to mention the off field goods that they have already and probably will provide our club. Get on the bus Loz!!!!!!
I never actually wrote that **they should shut their traps**. I only pointed out that it’s a concern of mine that they continue to give interviews that focuses on them and not the team.
TBH I don’t mind Farah as much, as you can see his interviews are done just to share his excitement to be a part of the club again. Yet for as long as I can remember Benji has always seemed to put his foot in his mouth.
The club has just had to deal with the Brooks and Reynolds non-issue, so the last thing I want to see is an article that insinuates our coach is only staying to save his image from being tarnished.
I’m over the whole coaching speculation and whether he stays or goes, I don’t really care anymore. But the fact Benji felt the need to talk about his consoling Ivan Cleary is a little worrying. There are some club matters that should be kept in-house.
FYI no one is doubting what they’ve done for the team this year and I’m absolutely thrilled that they’re back. But cmon you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think it’s problematic that a team member felt the need to share this with the media. I don’t care whether it was to reassure fans or any other reason. Some talk should be restricted. Our players need to over-share has caused a whole media circus around the club, in recent years. It only highlighted the player’s inability to restrain themself and show a certain level of respect to the club. And whether you like it or not, unfortunately it helped create a toxic culture within the club and was part of the reason others labelled us the basket cases of the NRL.
The last thing we need right now is having a team leader draw unwanted attention to the club. Think he needs to take a leaf out of either Lawrence or Packer’s book, who sound nothing but professional and articulate when speaking to the media. Even some of our young players have said no comment on questions relating to our coaching future.
TBH I don’t mind Farah as much, as you can see his interviews are done just to share his excitement to be a part of the club again. Yet for as long as I can remember Benji has always seemed to put his foot in his mouth.
The club has just had to deal with the Brooks and Reynolds non-issue, so the last thing I want to see is an article that insinuates our coach is only staying to save his image from being tarnished.
I’m over the whole coaching speculation and whether he stays or goes, I don’t really care anymore. But the fact Benji felt the need to talk about his consoling Ivan Cleary is a little worrying. There are some club matters that should be kept in-house.
FYI no one is doubting what they’ve done for the team this year and I’m absolutely thrilled that they’re back. But cmon you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think it’s problematic that a team member felt the need to share this with the media. I don’t care whether it was to reassure fans or any other reason. Some talk should be restricted. Our players need to over-share has caused a whole media circus around the club, in recent years. It only highlighted the player’s inability to restrain themself and show a certain level of respect to the club. And whether you like it or not, unfortunately it helped create a toxic culture within the club and was part of the reason others labelled us the basket cases of the NRL.
The last thing we need right now is having a team leader draw unwanted attention to the club. Think he needs to take a leaf out of either Lawrence or Packer’s book, who sound nothing but professional and articulate when speaking to the media. Even some of our young players have said no comment on questions relating to our coaching future.
MightyMaggy
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Wow!! This is one of the best posts I have read on this Forum. If the Club was a traditional business, these media comments would have to be cleared by the company management before they were released to the media. This is done to make sure the company is NOT putting itself into a position to be sued. The directors would then be in legal trouble. I would hope that this situation exists in Wests Tigers.
Nucky_Thompson
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Did anyone read the gist of the article?
MATT LOGUE, The Sunday Telegraph
BENJI Marshall has revealed he helped console Ivan Cleary through the Penrith coaching drama, saying the Wests Tigers mentor didn’t want to tarnish his respected reputation by leaving Concord to coach the Panthers.
Cleary’s credibility was questioned in August when it emerged Penrith wanted him to return to the club following Anthony Griffin’s sacking.
This caused uproar from the Tigers’ faithful, who were filthy their coach could leave with two years remaining on his contract.
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Tigers coach Ivan Cleary didn’t want to hurt his reputation by leaving in the middle of a contract. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)
In the end Cleary decided to stay but Marshall says he can understand why he wants to one day coach his son.
“These are my words and not Ivan’s but I could imagine he wanted to take the pressure off Nathan because they want to work together,” Marshall said.
“It’s hard for Nathan to leave his mates at Penrith — so that would have been an opportunity to take that decision out of Nathan’s hands by coaching him at the Panthers.
“I think with what happened with that coaching situation, it would be something that you’d want to entertain.
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“But entertaining was one thing and he obviously didn’t commit to that.
“So from my point of view, and I’ve been talking to Ivan through that whole period, he was going nowhere.
“Ivan is a man of his honour and I could see that he didn’t want to have that tarnished by leaving.
“That was probably a big reason why he didn’t follow that through.
“But Ivan is the shining light for the Wests Tigers fans. That is why they were so filthy when the news came out because they didn’t want him to go.”
Ironically, it was Cleary’s measure as a man that ensured Marshall received another season at the Wests Tigers.
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It was the Tigers mentor that decided the veteran Kiwi still had more in his ageing legs to give following 291 NRL games.
Now Marshall has the chance to play 300 matches in 2019 — a milestone he never thought he’d achieve when he left the Tigers for the Auckland Blues in 2014.
“No, not at all — it is crazy,” he said.
“I’ve also had five shoulder reconstructions and missed a lot of games through injury.
“Every year from 2004 I had an operation on my shoulder.
“That went on for a long time and it was pretty tough.
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Marshall understood Cleary’s desire to coach son Nathan at the Panthers. (AAP Image/David Rowland)
“I think with where I was at in 2008 I would have retired, so to get through all of that and still be in the game for me it is a massive achievement.”
Marshall also can’t wait to play another season with his 2005 premiership-winning teammate, Robbie Farah.
“It’s just weird — I would never have guessed this is where we’d be in 2019,” he said.
“It is so crazy but it is so right.”
Marshall will spend most of the off-season honing his game and spending time with wife Zoe and new son Benjamin.
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The Tigers veteran also plans to devote time to his other passion — video games.
Marshall launched the new Destiny 2: Forsaken in Sydney earlier this week and says video game craze is taking over rugby league.
“It is weird but I think most of the NRL has become a bit of a gaming fraternity,” he said.
“Our whole team all do a bit of gaming together with the headphones and microphone set up.
“Sometimes we go until the early hours of the morning, especially after games.
“With the landscape of the game changing now, you’ve got to find something different to do after games instead of going to the pub — especially when you have a baby and you can’t go to sleep.”
BENJI Marshall has revealed he helped console Ivan Cleary through the Penrith coaching drama, saying the Wests Tigers mentor didn’t want to tarnish his respected reputation by leaving Concord to coach the Panthers.
Cleary’s credibility was questioned in August when it emerged Penrith wanted him to return to the club following Anthony Griffin’s sacking.
This caused uproar from the Tigers’ faithful, who were filthy their coach could leave with two years remaining on his contract.
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Tigers coach Ivan Cleary didn’t want to hurt his reputation by leaving in the middle of a contract. (Photo by Matt King/Getty Images)
In the end Cleary decided to stay but Marshall says he can understand why he wants to one day coach his son.
“These are my words and not Ivan’s but I could imagine he wanted to take the pressure off Nathan because they want to work together,” Marshall said.
“It’s hard for Nathan to leave his mates at Penrith — so that would have been an opportunity to take that decision out of Nathan’s hands by coaching him at the Panthers.
“I think with what happened with that coaching situation, it would be something that you’d want to entertain.
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“But entertaining was one thing and he obviously didn’t commit to that.
“So from my point of view, and I’ve been talking to Ivan through that whole period, he was going nowhere.
“Ivan is a man of his honour and I could see that he didn’t want to have that tarnished by leaving.
“That was probably a big reason why he didn’t follow that through.
“But Ivan is the shining light for the Wests Tigers fans. That is why they were so filthy when the news came out because they didn’t want him to go.”
Ironically, it was Cleary’s measure as a man that ensured Marshall received another season at the Wests Tigers.
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It was the Tigers mentor that decided the veteran Kiwi still had more in his ageing legs to give following 291 NRL games.
Now Marshall has the chance to play 300 matches in 2019 — a milestone he never thought he’d achieve when he left the Tigers for the Auckland Blues in 2014.
“No, not at all — it is crazy,” he said.
“I’ve also had five shoulder reconstructions and missed a lot of games through injury.
“Every year from 2004 I had an operation on my shoulder.
“That went on for a long time and it was pretty tough.
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Marshall understood Cleary’s desire to coach son Nathan at the Panthers. (AAP Image/David Rowland)
“I think with where I was at in 2008 I would have retired, so to get through all of that and still be in the game for me it is a massive achievement.”
Marshall also can’t wait to play another season with his 2005 premiership-winning teammate, Robbie Farah.
“It’s just weird — I would never have guessed this is where we’d be in 2019,” he said.
“It is so crazy but it is so right.”
Marshall will spend most of the off-season honing his game and spending time with wife Zoe and new son Benjamin.
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The Tigers veteran also plans to devote time to his other passion — video games.
Marshall launched the new Destiny 2: Forsaken in Sydney earlier this week and says video game craze is taking over rugby league.
“It is weird but I think most of the NRL has become a bit of a gaming fraternity,” he said.
“Our whole team all do a bit of gaming together with the headphones and microphone set up.
“Sometimes we go until the early hours of the morning, especially after games.
“With the landscape of the game changing now, you’ve got to find something different to do after games instead of going to the pub — especially when you have a baby and you can’t go to sleep.”
851
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So it confirms Gus lied, penrith wanted/offered him a deal for next year
supercoach
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Benji is milking his name for every cent he can get as he approaches his last year in the spotlight, and I guess who can blame him. The spotlight goes out very very quickly when you pull the pin.
As for his quotes by the media on Cleary, I would take anything a NRL scribe said with a grain of salt
As for his quotes by the media on Cleary, I would take anything a NRL scribe said with a grain of salt
GNR4LIFE
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I thought that was already proven when he told Weedler, that they had no plan B if Ivan doesn’t sign.
Pawsandclaws
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Are you at all surprised with the lack of values? Strong get stronger.
I am still trying to think of another example of a club losing three above average Australian Schoolboy juniors in one off season.
851
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Never heard that, just heard him say Penrith never offered Ivan a contract, and no decision will be made on a coach until after the season is finished
851
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West’s lost 3 internationals to Manly, another international and a player who would play origin the next year to Newtown, all at the end of the 1979 season.
Wests actually had made the top 5 for the past 2 years, and again in the 1980 season after they all left.
GNR4LIFE
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How much honing can you do going on 34
