Kids Footy

[goldcoast_tiger]

We just happen to have Robina again this week. First round. Hopefully no shenanigans from the sidelines. Me thinks I'll be the Duty officer so if there are any knobs out on Friday night I guess I'll be dealing with 'em. Can't wait for that. :unamused:

Its hard to take a grown man seriously, when he's wearing a bib. :smiley:

Finally got to start the 12 y Div 1 competition, [Yes including goals ]
Helensvale were able to get a good win ove Nerang 28 to 4.
The kids are starting to get it all together, and will only get better when the new guys are settled in.
Big day at Helensvale this Saturday With all the club playing there including seniors.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

We just happen to have Robina again this week. First round. Hopefully no shenanigans from the sidelines. Me thinks I'll be the Duty officer so if there are any knobs out on Friday night I guess I'll be dealing with 'em. Can't wait for that. :unamused:

Its hard to take a grown man seriously, when he's wearing a bib. :smiley:

Finally got to start the 12 y Div 1 competition, [Yes including goals ]
Helensvale were able to get a good win ove Nerang 28 to 4.
The kids are starting to get it all together, and will only get better when the new guys are settled in.
Big day at Helensvale this Saturday With all the club playing there including seniors.

True that. I wasn't needed for the duty role thankfully.
The boys drew 20-20 in the end.
More spite and drama onfield saw one of ours and two of theirs sent to cool down. After the game, more appalling behaviour but this time it was carried out by supporters of the opposition who accused our fellas of mouthing off. (which they didn't) but what an over reaction. Harassing and bullying the kids is never on by grown adults who should know bette. Particularly given they are closely affiliated to a first grade player of a particular club up here.

 

[happy_tiger]

Boys got smashed by the bottom side 38-12

If the players had put in as much as the fans from both sides it would have resembled a game from the late 70's

Oppositions side's 1st win of the season , felt good to see their fans get excited even though we got pumped, some of our fans didn't like it and the sniping started

Thing is if the boys had seen how their parents were behaving they would be embarrassed

I know a few of the parents from the opposition (EB , our prop and the opposition back rower compete every year in shot putt against each other in the rep trials ) , few our fans gave me the silent treatment after I congratulated them on their 1st win

One said something , and I reminded them our boys were in the exact same position 12 months ago when we lost 7 games straight and had 50 put on us in 5 of those 7 games …....

 

[Doc_Tiger]

nice work happy.
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Under nines seem to be mproving and they really enjoyed their game is currumbin yesterday. Ever matched plenty of great runs and tackles

Under 16s were down 16-0 @ half time vs Burleigh Bears.
Came back after the break to lead 18-16\. With 2 minutes to play, on the attack and 5m from the oppositions goal line our 6 grubbers one in which nearly made it to Lang Park. Then they give away a penalty on the 4th to allow burleigh to steal a win with a late try as the siren sounded. It was all very Wests tigers..

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

U12's div 1 played Burleigh 1 on Saturday, not sure of Goal count;I think we had about 3 goals
but I think it was 5 tries H'vale and Burleigh Nil,
The boys defence, was once again spot on, and though there was a couple of Boppers in the opposition the kids tackled their Butts off, and kept their line intact.
Our attack wasnt quite up to its usual level , but the opposition Defence was pretty good too and didnt give up
it was a major day at Helensvale , with almost the whole club including the Seniors also playing there on Sat afternoon

 

[Doc_Tiger]

U12's div 1 played Burleigh 1 on Saturday, not sure of Goal count;I think we had about 3 goals
but I think it was 5 tries H'vale and Burleigh Nil,
The boys defence, was once again spot on, and though there was a couple of Boppers in the opposition the kids tackled their Butts off, and kept their line intact.
Our attack wasnt quite up to its usual level , but the opposition Defence was pretty good too and didnt give up
it was a major day at Helensvale , with almost the whole club including the Seniors also playing there on Sat afternoon

Sounds like an event. love those big days of footy.

 

[Tim Sheens]

My young bloke's U8 team is playing at the Chooks/Titans game at Gosford on Saturday and he is really looking forward to playing at a "real" football ground.

A shame that they will be one player short yet again, but they have come along in leaps and bounds in the last couple of weeks, since getting bashed by a big and experienced side, that for the life of me I could not fathom at all, how after four rounds they could somehow be graded together.

This is his first year of league, as it is for most of the team, including the two girls, and the only two that have played before are playing up a year as we have no sevens. It was really sad for the kids when without consultation, the club (and I assume the other U8's coach) made a decision to split what was going to be a large squad into two teams, that would then have the bare minimum of eight each.

On the morning of the second last trial game, I was surprised to read about the split on the club's Facebook page, which basically said a decision had been made and no correspondence would be entered into, whilst also asking everyone to remember it is all about the kids enjoying themselves, rather than winning. To my and others horror and also unannounced, straight after the game that morning which was at a foreign ground, they separated the kids into two lines and told my son's one this is your new coach and you will be training at a different time from now on.

The kids were absolutely shell shocked at being separated from their friends that they had joined to play with, or even worse, for our underage boys, their teammates from last year. At least I had read about it, whilst some other parents were as surprised as the kids. The hypocrisy of the situation was oh so stark when looking at the two lines and seeing one that consisted of the big and experienced kids and the other full of newbies and the small and underage rejects. Not about winning, my arse.

We soon lost two of the underage kids that were absolutely devastated at being separated from their former teammates, one of them who's father was also the team trainer, even travelled past three or four other clubs to play as a Bulldog. I found another newbie to fill one of the spots and he has now gotten past stopping when he gets to the defence, but he is yet to make a tackle in any game.

Anyhow, rant over and looking forward to them playing and forming a guard of honour in front of the crowd this weekend, even though I have now had to become the the one that will be on the field marshaling them, despite wanting to keep at arms length from my young bloke's sport.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

FG , it seems that it was done in a hamfisted way; but it’s a tough question of what to do with inexperienced and smaller kids around that age.
The kids of the Coast are graded around under 12s. I really think that they should be graded long before that,
As an example, my G/sons team had three or four kids ( including him )that have played since they were 5; Two of which had A football in their hands since they could sit up. Due to their dads large association with the game as players
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The result was , that more than half of the team were really advanced for their age, and could run hard and Tackle hard ,and the others were very inexperienced , then throw into the mix in the case of a couple clubs , some very very big kids , and you’ve got a very hard job to run a competition or select teams in those young ages.

This wasn’t the only team in the comp in this situation.,
It’s hard for some young kids to come into a team and play against bigger or more experienced opponents, but grading younger would be a start.
The problem is made harder by the number of really big players coming into the game.
Places where there isn’t enough kids to grade them ,have a big problem, and there isn’t much they can do in that situation.
However, It seems that your club isnt very good at communicating with the families that are involved.

As far as the coming game for your kids, , if both teams aren’t playing at the same time ask one of the kids from the other team
If they’ll come and play with them
Or maybe the team you are playing will lend you a player if they have extra kids.
Look at it this way, the kids will be on the field longer; they will love it.
Sounds like the club is trying to do something about the inequalities that face clubs these days, but maybe need to get a bit better with keeping people advised of what’s happening.
Grading , though , only works where there is enough teams to have a Couple of divisions at different skill levels

 

[Tim Sheens]

Yeah GCT, there are many things that have to be considered and juggled by those that are trying to run junior competitions, with the vast majority of officials very generously giving up an incredible amount of their time as volunteers to keep them running. As such, I am generally loath to aim criticism their way, but the split at club level seemed to be catering to egos and was carried out in a manner that certainly justifies some.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Yeah, it seems that not much thought went into how to get to the point that they wanted to get to.
Whats the number of teams in that age group like overall?
we play in a big Competion ,AND , we, along with some other clubs have big numbers of kids.
But the same problems exists to a certain extent,, but the numbers give the clubs a bit more options
Hope your kids enjoy the " Real field" experience, and pick up a few tries

 

[happy_tiger]

Boys almost knocked off the hot shot team and defending premiers tonight , got run down with about 4 minutes left according to the Mrs , led 14-12 and their half back got them home again 18-14

Actually their half back got all their points , 3 tries and 3 goals (tried to explain the some of the big boys to run at him and wear him out )

We might need to recruit this Ranga I've heard about out Penrith way ended up 3 tries each , goal kicking was the difference

Turns out what advice I give my boy is a waste of time , he got our MOTM tonight and his old man wasn't within cooee

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Yeah GCT, there are many things that have to be considered and juggled by those that are trying to run junior competitions, with the vast majority of officials very generously giving up an incredible amount of their time as volunteers to keep them running. As such, I am generally loath to aim criticism their way, but the split at club level seemed to be catering to egos and was carried out in a manner that certainly justifies some.

I have no answers with regards to the lopsided abilities in show in juniors. I am however, strongly of the belief that big kids should not have to play up just because they're big. That's the games attraction. It's a combat sport and whilst we're talking kids, it's all relative in my opinion. A good coach - and I appreciate that not all teams have experienced coaches, can usually explain to kids the techniques to take on their bigger opponent. Still, that's not really what juniors is all about. But rather children running, learning and being part of a team that wins or loses and comes back to training because they want to be with their mates.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Boys almost knocked off the hot shot team and defending premiers tonight , got run down with about 4 minutes left according to the Mrs , led 14-12 and their half back got them home again 18-14

Actually their half back got all their points , 3 tries and 3 goals (tried to explain the some of the big boys to run at him and wear him out )

We might need to recruit this Ranga I've heard about out Penrith way ended up 3 tries each , goal kicking was the difference

Turns out what advice I give my boy is a waste of time , he got our MOTM tonight and his old man wasn't within cooee

Damn those half back smarty pants types!!

My under 9s champ is still out of action for a while after suffering a pretty severe sprain of his knee so he's not too happy. Looks like a month or so, bit we'll see. Think I might have to put training wheels on his scooter.

Shearers under 16s had a terrific win vs Runaway Bay on Friday night. Too big, strong and fast in the end after a tight first half. Young Doc played centre and had a stormer - particularly defensively which usually isn't his strong point. The Final scoreline of 38-18 was a pretty good indication of the game after the halftime score was 12 all. Looking forward to next week.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Yeah, it seems that not much thought went into how to get to the point that they wanted to get to.
Whats the number of teams in that age group like overall?
we play in a big Competion ,AND , we, along with some other clubs have big numbers of kids.
But the same problems exists to a certain extent,, but the numbers give the clubs a bit more options
Hope your kids enjoy the " Real field" experience, and pick up a few tries

We play in the Central Coast comp down here, which is very Anglo, so plenty of teams. Have only been around the club since late in the pre-season when my young bloke decided that he wanted to play league, but seems there is a good amount of disquiet around the reasons so many of our club's former players are now playing against us and not being able to form a side for some age groups.

Couldn't get another kid to backup, so we went in short and were well and truly outnumbered in the second game when they allowed the reserves of the other three teams on display to play as well. The crowd could quite clearly see that we were also the smallest and the ones that John West rejected and thus got behind us as underdogs, giving an NRL like ovation when my young bloke broke through and beat the cover for our long range and only try.

Funny that after we left the field and sang the team song, I then asked him about the crowd reaction and he said he did not hear a thing, only worried about not letting the others get him and then catching his breath. Once they got on the field it seemed that the only things on their mind were contained in the area bounded by the cones placed along the 10 and 40 metre lines.

They asked for four players from each team to lead the Chooks out, with ours first and one of our girls at the front with Cordner, who as a Easts fan was only there because one of the four best behaved chosen selflessly gave up the opportunity when I asked if any of them would. Then later, despite gushing at having led them out she had the hide to complain that I didn't choose Latrell Mitchell. The only one that was not going to be chosen was Tedesco. My boy was a bit angry at me not choosing him, as another boy caused him not being a candidate, but you can't play favourites.

All in all a good, though long day that will likely stay with them a lifetime, but am again limping around after again aggravating a groin injury that I have been recovering from for a month or so.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Yeah GCT, there are many things that have to be considered and juggled by those that are trying to run junior competitions, with the vast majority of officials very generously giving up an incredible amount of their time as volunteers to keep them running. As such, I am generally loath to aim criticism their way, but the split at club level seemed to be catering to egos and was carried out in a manner that certainly justifies some.

I have no answers with regards to the lopsided abilities in show in juniors. I am however, strongly of the belief that big kids should not have to play up just because they're big. That's the games attraction. It's a combat sport and whilst we're talking kids, it's all relative in my opinion. A good coach - and I appreciate that not all teams have experienced coaches, can usually explain to kids the techniques to take on their bigger opponent. Still, that's not really what juniors is all about. But rather children running, learning and being part of a team that wins or loses and comes back to training because they want to be with their mates.

And when related back to my original post in the present discussion, that is the key to what occurred, they want to be with their mates. The good thing is that a couple of months in, our newbies our now becoming good mates.

As for the big kids, my first post in this thread is where I stand on the issue, in that the really big kids can often be put back in their place by their faster or skilled peers. That said, there certainly seem to be some taking advantage of rules that allow them to play in grades below their true age and they need to be addressed.

My son is far from the biggest, but tall and I am encouraging him to backup for our 9's in preparation for our return match against the giants that mauled us later in the year. For mine the refs have a duty to take size into consideration when enforcing rules, particularly for the younger ones. Took a tackling bag home from training a few weeks back and it has worked wonders with his confidence, helping turn him from an arm grabber into a reasonably aggressive all in defender that is getting ready to return serve to those he considers act bullies.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

For the third week in a row we played Burleigh again, Burleigh White, I think it was this time, so that’s all the Burleigh teams that we should meet this year, the boys kept up the pressure and
Completed the hat trick against them.
It was a pretty good game but we pulled away in the second half and ran out Winners about 28-4
Once again the boys defence was what got them the win ,

Good to see that your young bloke had a good time on his big day,

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

H/vale Div 1 u12s continued to to remain undefeated for the season. And continue to make it difficult for teams to get over their line with only two or three tries conceded for the season so far,

The defence (which has been strong all season ) was the best this year and their attack was right up there with it on Saturday,
The kids are really enjoying the season, and are learning more and more from their Coaches every week.,
It good to watch a team this young that can play for a purpose , and not just take run after run with no idea of how to set up the next play.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Yeah GCT, there are many things that have to be considered and juggled by those that are trying to run junior competitions, with the vast majority of officials very generously giving up an incredible amount of their time as volunteers to keep them running. As such, I am generally loath to aim criticism their way, but the split at club level seemed to be catering to egos and was carried out in a manner that certainly justifies some.

I have no answers with regards to the lopsided abilities in show in juniors. I am however, strongly of the belief that big kids should not have to play up just because they're big. That's the games attraction. It's a combat sport and whilst we're talking kids, it's all relative in my opinion. A good coach - and I appreciate that not all teams have experienced coaches, can usually explain to kids the techniques to take on their bigger opponent. Still, that's not really what juniors is all about. But rather children running, learning and being part of a team that wins or loses and comes back to training because they want to be with their mates.

And when related back to my original post in the present discussion, that is the key to what occurred, they want to be with their mates. The good thing is that a couple of months in, our newbies our now becoming good mates.

As for the big kids, my first post in this thread is where I stand on the issue, in that the really big kids can often be put back in their place by their faster or skilled peers. That said, there certainly seem to be some taking advantage of rules that allow them to play in grades below their true age and they need to be addressed.

My son is far from the biggest, but tall and I am encouraging him to backup for our 9's in preparation for our return match against the giants that mauled us later in the year. For mine the refs have a duty to take size into consideration when enforcing rules, particularly for the younger ones. Took a tackling bag home from training a few weeks back and it has worked wonders with his confidence, helping turn him from an arm grabber into a reasonably aggressive all in defender that is getting ready to return serve to those he considers act bullies.

Totally awesome. How good to see kids get the confidence to progress beyond the arm grabbing type tackle. Nice work.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

For the third week in a row we played Burleigh again, Burleigh White, I think it was this time, so that’s all the Burleigh teams that we should meet this year, the boys kept up the pressure and
Completed the hat trick against them.
It was a pretty good game but we pulled away in the second half and ran out Winners about 28-4
Once again the boys defence was what got them the win ,

Good to see that your young bloke had a good time on his big day,

With burleigh being such a strong club, that's a terrific result. The boys should be proud.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

H/vale Div 1 u12s continued to to remain undefeated for the season. And continue to make it difficult for teams to get over their line with only two or three tries conceded for the season so far,

The defence (which has been strong all season ) was the best this year and their attack was right up there with it on Saturday,
The kids are really enjoying the season, and are learning more and more from their Coaches every week.,
It good to watch a team this young that can play for a purpose , and not just take run after run with no idea of how to set up the next play.

Sounds like you've got a good coach. Ain't it great once the kids start to really play?

Ormeau under 16s Div2 had a big win over your mob at helensvale last Friday night.

Our coach is an ex Vale coach and only moved across to our club this season - as did a few if his players. So it was a bit of a grudge match.

A half time score of 0-0 was indicative of the tightness of the game.

We overpowered the hornets in the second half though to end up winning 24-6.

A hard game with the scoreline blowing out a little more than was fair I think. Credit to both teams.