Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion

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Mitchell and Bennett have combined for the past ten weeks to again make Wests Tigers look like fools. Our Administration try so hard to look like tough traders but in actual fact are very naive amateurs at the trading /signing part of the game. No way near good enough. Most would have told Mitchell to get lost when it was clear that he was using Wests Tigers for his own gain. Instead Wests tigers carried on negotiating with him and lost the valuable time involved they could have used to negotiate with whatever class players were available during thisperiof of time. These class players are no longer avaiable now.

Wests tigers,. through their own negligent fault, have hit quick sand and are sinking. How and if they can get out of this result of negligence remains to be seen..
 
If South's need cap space we should be enquiring about not their off cards but players we could use.

Douhei and Amone.
We'll take both, thanks.

Keep ya Gagai and Alex Wackstons, thanks.

There's ya cap space, nerds.
 
@Newtown said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096535) said:
Wests tigers,. through their own negligent fault, have hit quick sand and are sinking. How and if they can get out of this result of negligence remains to be seen…

I don't understand this at all. What is negligent about trying to sign Latrell and then moving on ? That isn't negligence in any way shape or form.

Do you know something we don't ?
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096465) said:
@Telltails said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096449) said:
Don't see Bennett as clever - not fooling any one - and the lines between what is fact and fiction are so blurred, soon no one will listen to him. Once that happens he becomes irrelevant.

He might be becoming irrelevant, but he still somehow always gets exactly what he wants.

He is just a mouthpiece for the real power at souffs - it was Crowe who won over Burgess and it was Crowe who won over Arrow and it will be Crowe who will win over Mitchell. Bennett is yesterdays hero still living on past glories.
 
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096526) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096476) said:
When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096539) said:
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096526) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096476) said:
When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?



@avocadoontoast said said:
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096526) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096476) said:
When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

In hindsight it is. At the time though, millions of dollars to spend was appealing. Who knows, still could work out.
 
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096526) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096476) said:
When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

He also knows what money is available for 2021 and players including Mitchell could have been signed from November for 2021. And so far nothing.
 
The lack of landing any major signing goes hand in hand with the last decade of underachieving. We don't manage to get these things right
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096544) said:
Bring back some gem from the SL who is 10x better than Mitchell madge

A player 10 x times better than LM in the ESL ....I can't even think of someone in the ESL who is even as good as LM
 
@happy_tiger said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096546) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096544) said:
Bring back some gem from the SL who is 10x better than Mitchell madge

A player 10 x times better than LM in the ESL ....I can't even think of someone in the ESL who is even as good as LM

I can’t think of a back in ESL who is 10% as good as LM.
 
@Earl said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096537) said:
@Newtown said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096535) said:
Wests tigers,. through their own negligent fault, have hit quick sand and are sinking. How and if they can get out of this result of negligence remains to be seen…

I don't understand this at all. What is negligent about trying to sign Latrell and then moving on ? That isn't negligence in any way shape or form.

Do you know something we don't ?

Used the term "actual fact" but didnt provide any. Disgruntled frustrated fan rant - we have all been there.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096550) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096546) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096544) said:
Bring back some gem from the SL who is 10x better than Mitchell madge

A player 10 x times better than LM in the ESL ....I can't even think of someone in the ESL who is even as good as LM

I can’t think of a back in ESL who is 10% as good as LM.



@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096550) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096546) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096544) said:
Bring back some gem from the SL who is 10x better than Mitchell madge

A player 10 x times better than LM in the ESL ....I can't even think of someone in the ESL who is even as good as LM

I can’t think of a back in ESL who is 10% as good as LM.

Jacob Trueman comes to mind
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096430) said:
@Leck said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096428) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096404) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096385) said:
@Celticguy97 said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096378) said:
I don’t understand how releasing gagai would free up money for Mitchell if they’re signing arrow for an amount worth more than gagai’s original contract especially if you consider the fact that the titans will want the bunnies to pay a percentage of the rumoured 700k before they would even consider signing him for that much. The numbers don’t add up. surely they would have to release two players outright while also taking into account arrows money for 2020.


I posted this elsewhere, but to answer your question:

FWIW their insider, similar to the Pom, says they can fit LM without releasing AJ or Gagai…

But…they are worried about their balance. Ie too many backs : they want to add a Pommy forward.

So, they need Gagai to GC or AJ to us to balance their squad.

How can they fit 1.8 million dollars worth of players in a million cap space? The maths doesn't work... Even with releasing someone and especially when considering paying almost half their contract

I call BS on this.

We've had enough speculation @ElleryHanley, let's allow this thread to die with some dignity.

Time to move on in 2020.

I don't think it is speculation to be honest.

LM is a superstar and it has all suddenly 'stopped'. That simply does not happen unless a deal has been done. Bennet's 'we don't need a center' line was a classic giveaway.

Anyway, should 'officially' be over soon...




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Rugby League’s worst kept secret will be revealed very soon.

Latrell Mitchell has put pen to paper and has signed a 3 year contract at South Sydney.

I suspect someone will have to make way.
Dane Gagai is looking likely.

Lol, you do realise it's the Christmas-new years period, right?

The number of people on here who add 2+2 and get 971157634 is amazing
 
@Lauren said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096543) said:
I mean no disrespect to our squad but the way I see it is Marsters was the only viable option for WT to get any $$$$, seeing as it took months to get Matulino's medical retirement approved by the NRL. Yes it was slightly premature, he would've been perfect to use for a trade with Melbourne but what's done is done.
IDRC about Matterson as he was just another Moses to the club, and I'm glad to see the club show some dignity in the matter.

Momo and Mbye were great for us in the centres and I also believe Marsters leaving is better for he and Madge's relationship for the Kiwis.
I know everyone is underwhelmed right now but I'm excited to see if Talau will get a crack and also looking forward to how Aloiai, Mikaele and Garner will go this year.

IMO our playmakers(spine) make me a little anxious... Our hooker situation is more than worrying.

I will disagree on Marsters, we were silly hiring Mbye but hey we had a 750K paperweight from the Bulldogs to put somewhere. So now were down a kicker and Mbye is kinda known for Turnstyling. I can only hope someone needs a fullback and some coach gets the wrong idea and hires him.... Sadly I doubt that will happen.

The other point I will make is how Easts could recognize a money Focus player in Matterson. I won't hold it against him, but we should look out for these types and never touch them (or their agents).
 
@crazycat I agree re:Mbye's value but I think he has more upside or value than some claim. He is an Ivan signing and not Madge's though. I also think we were stupid with certain recruitment choices, we actually helped the Dogs out of their cap woes. But in saying that, I actually thought Mbye was doing pretty good until he was given the captaincy role tbh.

I really like Marsters but I think he had a poor year, the goalkicking duties were too much for him and he never really lifted in attack. Also sadly our team lacks good support players and strike players, so IMO he was exposed.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096544) said:
Bring back some gem from the SL who is 10x better than Mitchell madge

Firstly, has Madge been looking for any player/s from SL? Except for the inner sanctum of Wests Tigers administration nobody really knows. Secondly, if he hasn't arranged signing of anybody from SL yet he is cutting it very fine for Season 2020 seeing that training is back in full swing next week.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096539) said:
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096526) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096476) said:
When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

NO.
Madge and Co did what had to be done not much use keeping players who don't want to be here clear the rubbish cash up and see what eventuates I would say we'll have a similar season to 2019 hopefully finishing in the 8
We are cashed up and good players tend to come on the market unexpectantly we're tracking OK we'd all like a Porsche or Ferrari
In the garage but this doesn't always happen and we stick to the tried and true until something better comes along
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096585) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096539) said:
@jirskyr said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096526) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion](/post/1096476) said:
When Maguire joined I thought there’d be a real boost in attracting talent. But it’s been no better, maybe worse.

What's he had though? He took on Ivan's team after one season; most of the players Ivan signed were locked in 3-4 year deals.

Madge had no money and no time to spend it for 2019, signed Jennings.

He's got all his re-signings and junior signings worked out over a longer term, but his top-shelf money for 2020 only became available in the middle of November.

Hard to judge the bloke on about 6 weeks of being able to try recruiting with genuine cap space.

Just my opinion but releasing Marsters and Matterson without replacements lined up was unwise. Yep, we’ve got a load of cash but have been unsuccessful spending it. Imo we would have been better off hanging on to Marsters and Matterson until we got something in return.

Let me ask you this. If we make no additional signings of quality NRL players come round 1, will you be a bit disappointed with our recruitment strategy?

NO.
Madge and Co did what had to be done not much use keeping players who don't want to be here clear the rubbish cash up and see what eventuates I would say we'll have a similar season to 2019 hopefully finishing in the 8
We are cashed up and good players tend to come on the market unexpectantly we're tracking OK we'd all like a Porsche or Ferrari
In the garage but this doesn't always happen and we stick to the tried and true until something better comes along

Yeah cool but what’s the point of having all the cash if we can’t attract quality players? I’m also sick of hearing all this Madge talk. It seems to me like he’s part of the problem, players don’t seem keen to play for him...
 
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