Luke Brooks

[wet tiger coloured bird]

maybe benji was watching in the stands. brooks is still affected by benji

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Surely we plan to sign Schuster:thinking_face:

 

[2005magic]

He has never had a qualifty halves partner that wanted to support him and let him run the show

He is supposed to step up. Not wait until an equally substandard halves partner come along (which has happened!).

All this crap that Benji stifled him. Benji wasn’t exactly setting the world on fire for the last few years and still Brooks sucked.
Did Benji stifle Prince? Or Lui? Even Moses to an extent?
It’s just garbage because we so desperately don’t want to believe that we wasted a decade investing in this guy. Every excuse is.

It sucks. I wanted him to be great too.

Brooks will never be an organiser or leader, fine, I'd even try putting Doueihi and half and Brooks at 5/8 letting Doueihi organise and Brooks run.

 

[tony soprano]

Surely we plan to sign Schuster:thinking_face:

Can’t believe des didn’t play him last week

 

[tony soprano]

Surely we plan to sign Schuster:thinking_face:

Worlds largest half

I’d take him @ 13 or backrow

 

[Tim Sheens]

It's so weird that short kicking went from one of his strengths to one of his weaknesses. He barely forces repeat sets and sets up tries off kicks anymore, he was a specialist at it two years ago.

Coaching.

 

[JC99]

It's so weird that short kicking went from one of his strengths to one of his weaknesses. He barely forces repeat sets and sets up tries off kicks anymore, he was a specialist at it two years ago.

Coaching.

I don't see how. He was kicking well under Madge in 2019, now he attempts the same kicks and they're crap. It's either a severe lack of confidence or the bloke is just getting worse, I don't think Madge is teaching him to kick straight at the opposition

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

The next 6-8 weeks are the most important of his career in my view.

I can’t defend him anymore.

He has the best forward pack he has had, no Benji and has a ball playing fullback to work with plus a team playing 5/8th starting against the Roosters.

He must step up and play like an experienced half & 5/8th. We have to see improvement (which wouldn’t be hard) after his Raiders performance.

 

[Tim Sheens]

It's so weird that short kicking went from one of his strengths to one of his weaknesses. He barely forces repeat sets and sets up tries off kicks anymore, he was a specialist at it two years ago.

Coaching.

I don't see how. He was kicking well under Madge in 2019, now he attempts the same kicks and they're crap. It's either a severe lack of confidence or the bloke is just getting worse, I don't think Madge is teaching him to kick straight at the opposition

Of course not, but for mine he has been changing players away from their natural games, rather than prioritising blending their strengths, as just like every team, the individuals are very different between clubs and thus play a little differently because of both squad and coach. I expect the dynamics to be different and Brooks to work well with Doueihi as his halves partner this week and hope that I am right.

I saw the coach's influence last year with a changed Brooks and see it similarly with Liddle now in that he is virtually never passing direct from the ground, which was his natural play and strength. Others as well in that they are trying to play a style the coach wants, rather than combining their long held abilities, which is fine to a certain extent, but there is a limit from which point it becomes detrimental.

As I wrote earlier and I think in reply to you, Ricky Stuart targeted our style of ruck play in attack from the get go on Sunday for mine and our coach needs to alter it at training this week. Others may well see it differently, but that is my take.

 

[izotope]

Surely we plan to sign Schuster:thinking_face:

Worlds largest half

I’d take him @ 13 or backrow

Sheenius

 

[TigerWest]

Surely we plan to sign Schuster:thinking_face:

I think we plan to sign everyone, only a few make it.

 

[Speed2burn]

Brooks performance Sunday just gives the Facebook couch coaches ammunition over keeping benji, the doomsdayers comments have been pretty good reading

 

[tony soprano]

Surely we plan to sign Schuster:thinking_face:

Worlds largest half

I’d take him @ 13 or backrow

Sheenius

Pretty sure halves are not meant to be that big

 

[avocadoontoast]

Brooks performance Sunday just gives the Facebook couch coaches ammunition over keeping benji, the doomsdayers comments have been pretty good reading

I am very happy we let a Benji go but I also don’t think he was responsible for Brooks demise. Brooks has just lost it.

 

[Speed2burn]

Brooks performance Sunday just gives the Facebook couch coaches ammunition over keeping benji, the doomsdayers comments have been pretty good reading

I am very happy we let a Benji go but I also don’t think he was responsible for Brooks demise. Brooks has just lost it.

We’ll see. He wasn’t the worst but he was far from great on Sunday. It’s a long season

 

[avocadoontoast]

Brooks performance Sunday just gives the Facebook couch coaches ammunition over keeping benji, the doomsdayers comments have been pretty good reading

I am very happy we let a Benji go but I also don’t think he was responsible for Brooks demise. Brooks has just lost it.

We’ll see. He wasn’t the worst but he was far from great on Sunday. It’s a long season

After Garner and Joey I reckon he was probably the worst. He just had no idea. Was a continuation of last year. As a club we can’t afford to persist with him much longer IMO.

 

[Speed2burn]

Brooks performance Sunday just gives the Facebook couch coaches ammunition over keeping benji, the doomsdayers comments have been pretty good reading

I am very happy we let a Benji go but I also don’t think he was responsible for Brooks demise. Brooks has just lost it.

We’ll see. He wasn’t the worst but he was far from great on Sunday. It’s a long season

After Garner and Joey I reckon he was probably the worst. He just had no idea. Was a continuation of last year. As a club we can’t afford to persist with him much longer IMO.

Yep I’m not disagreeing , but at the same time he looked like the only one to threaten . Shimmy inside to set Jacob liddle up, spiral torps and the inside ball to Mbye near the end end of the game which was wrongly pulled up.

I guess his goal kicking goes alright too?

It was a complete contrast to the manly game where he popped up both sides of the ruck though. I’ll give him 4-5 weeks with Doueihi before I properly assess him

 

[avocadoontoast]

Brooks performance Sunday just gives the Facebook couch coaches ammunition over keeping benji, the doomsdayers comments have been pretty good reading

I am very happy we let a Benji go but I also don’t think he was responsible for Brooks demise. Brooks has just lost it.

We’ll see. He wasn’t the worst but he was far from great on Sunday. It’s a long season

After Garner and Joey I reckon he was probably the worst. He just had no idea. Was a continuation of last year. As a club we can’t afford to persist with him much longer IMO.

Yep I’m not disagreeing , but at the same time he looked like the only one to threaten . Shimmy inside to set Jacob liddle up, spiral torps and the inside ball to Mbye near the end end of the game which was wrongly pulled up.

I guess his goal kicking goes alright too?

It was a complete contrast to the manly game where he popped up both sides of the ruck though. I’ll give him 4-5 weeks with Doueihi before I properly assess him

I’m not sure we’ve got 4-5 weeks to wait tbh.

 

[The_Patriot]

Most people know my opinion of Luke Brooks. The key for him however will be Adam Doueihi.

Really think Doueihi is about to go to the next level and establish himself as one of the best 5/8 prospects in the game. If he does it can only help Luke Brooks who is an ok second fiddle player.

Last week i was watching the game to see if the boys stood up to Canberra's bullying tactics, disappointingly they didnt.

This week im watching to see if the Brooks & Doueihi combination is one that will work.

These first two games against the heavyweights are more like trials for me, we are slim chance of winning but we need to lay the platform for how we will play the rest of the season.

 

[Furious1]

It's so weird that short kicking went from one of his strengths to one of his weaknesses. He barely forces repeat sets and sets up tries off kicks anymore, he was a specialist at it two years ago.

Coaching.

I don't see how. He was kicking well under Madge in 2019, now he attempts the same kicks and they're crap. It's either a severe lack of confidence or the bloke is just getting worse, I don't think Madge is teaching him to kick straight at the opposition

Of course not, but for mine he has been changing players away from their natural games, rather than prioritising blending their strengths, as just like every team, the individuals are very different between clubs and thus play a little differently because of both squad and coach. I expect the dynamics to be different and Brooks to work well with Doueihi as his halves partner this week and hope that I am right.

I saw the coach's influence last year with a changed Brooks and **see it similarly with Liddle now in that he is virtually never passing direct from the ground, which was his natural play and strength.** Others as well in that they are trying to play a style the coach wants, rather than combining their long held abilities, which is fine to a certain extent, but there is a limit from which point it becomes detrimental.

As I wrote earlier and I think in reply to you, Ricky Stuart targeted our style of ruck play in attack from the get go on Sunday for mine and our coach needs to alter it at training this week. Others may well see it differently, but that is my take.

Unless we spoke to him directly both of us will never know, but i suspect this is very wide of the mark. Madge likes his forwards to bash and barge through the middle off quick play the balls. The way to make that happen is the complete opposite to what you said. Picking up the ball before passing only slows it down and i don't believe that would be the coaches plan. It is more likely Liddle couldn't find the players that were supposed to be demanding the ball and therefore had to "look" before passing.
As for Brooks, i'm hoping with AD back he may play much better, and i really hope he does but he just hasn't evolved as a player. The kid that made his debut was actually better than the man that plays today and that is saying something.
Despite what i write, i'm not into the Brooks bashing, i like the guy and always hoped he would be a WT for life and even as someone alluded to earlier feel sorry for him in that he hasn't been able to live up to the promise, but it's a ruthless business for all involved and if he can't take us to that successful place then Madge needs to get someone who can or he'll be sitting on the hill with the rest of us.