Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468837) said:
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@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.
 
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468778) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468772) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468769) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

Well it’s clearly not a myth just on here because it’s now being paraded in the media. Wether or not that story about Addo carr is true, there’s people who will think it is .

Would love to hear your argument on madges good recruitments…

Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Hastings are all excellent signings, definitely better than Ivan's signings and with much higher ceilings.

At the price he was signed for, James Roberts was definitely a signing that was worth the gamble. Joe Offa I would say was a pretty decent signing too.

All good signings and yet we are sliding down the ladder.
Good recruitment majority of players backing Maguire,and team playing rubbish. So who or what is the issue it can’t just be 3/4 players
 
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468834) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468831) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468809) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468801) said:
@851 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468797) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468793) said:
@851 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468786) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468757) said:
@851 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468754) said:
@tigers79 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468752) said:
@851 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468741) said:
@tigers79 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468518) said:
Madge will be retained and there will be a player clean out and hopefully with some more media pressure pascoe becomes the fall guy from the front office
Its the only way forward both on and off the field and including recruiting

How will that work, Madge can't attract players to the club, how do we improve, or fill the squad

Thats if you are blaming madge for the failiure to attract players
As Tyga posted , its the divide in playing group that is well known amongst other players that is hampering the recruitment. I feel Pascoe isnt helping

But to answer your questions , we improve and move fwd by filling the sqaud with young players and have a united squad under madge

Yep its going to result in us getting the sppon next year ( which I feel we get either way) , however I would rather see a bunch of young kids playing for this club then overpaid spoilt wanna be NRL players run around week in week out and then put there hand out for a pay check why under mining the whole organisation

There is no reason we will get the spoon if we get a new coach and the players are coached some structure, hell a new coach probably gets us some new players

**Madge has won premierships**, players couldn’t score a try against Canterbury. Know who I trust.

I keep hearing this, but they dismiss Green who has also won a premiership as a dud, Madge was sacked by the same players who won a premiership, now its happening again, only we missed the premiership, and the 8

One premiership might be brushed off as a fluke, but he has won two, and as coach of NZ he has beaten Australia, which is the equivalent of beating the All Blacks in union.

Your pro Madge that's fine everyone has a different view, I am not a Madge fan at all.
If he was such a good coach at club and international level, where are all these players who keep ringing him wanting to play for us, I don't see it, or get it.

We have close to a quarter of our salary cap not being used for 2022, that tells you all you need to know.

That is because we are still in early September. By February there will have been a bunch of new signings.

We have been able to sign players for 22 since November last year.

Yeah I know, but most signings tend to happen in the offseason. This time last year everyone was stressing just the same, then we made a bunch of signings.

And then we finished 13th.

Take the same approach into next season and will continue our trend of dropping 2 ladder spots, most likely 3
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468839) said:
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468837) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468781) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468777) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468774) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468771) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468769) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all
 
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468844) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468839) said:
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468837) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468781) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468777) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468774) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468771) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468769) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

That’s a sweeping statement. I thought they played with some fight against Manly, they were just outclassed.
 
@snozza said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468835) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468781) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468777) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468774) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468771) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468769) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

Meaningless game or not, the fact that we lost 38-0 to the spooners has allowed all of this to come out in the open. Everyone at the club needed this or another year of mediocrity was on its way (could still be). The loss has allowed everyone's anger, frustration, to finally really be heard. If the board aren;t listening, they have their head in the sand at Concord. If we beat the dogs 20-12 in an absolute bludger of a game then we would have slid into the off season with no acocntability at all. I hated watching the game, but I think it was the best thing that could have happened to the club tbh

Eh the board clearly don’t give a rats. The longer this drags on, the more likely it’s the same squad and coach going into next season which guarantees us the spoon imo. Maybe that’ll be the catalyst for a board change so i welcome the Cutlery next season
 
@yeahcaz said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468846) said:
@snozza said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468835) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468781) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468777) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468774) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468771) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468769) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

Meaningless game or not, the fact that we lost 38-0 to the spooners has allowed all of this to come out in the open. Everyone at the club needed this or another year of mediocrity was on its way (could still be). The loss has allowed everyone's anger, frustration, to finally really be heard. If the board aren;t listening, they have their head in the sand at Concord. If we beat the dogs 20-12 in an absolute bludger of a game then we would have slid into the off season with no acocntability at all. I hated watching the game, but I think it was the best thing that could have happened to the club tbh

Eh the board clearly don’t give a rats. The longer this drags on, the more likely it’s the same squad and coach going into next season which guarantees us the spoon imo. Maybe that’ll be the catalyst for a board change so i welcome the Cutlery next season

It won’t. There is absolutely little chance of the Board changing, only if the NRL threatens their licence.
 
@mike said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468845) said:
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468844) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468839) said:
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468837) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468781) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468777) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468774) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468771) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468769) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

That’s a sweeping statement. I thought they played with some fight against Manly, they were just outclassed.

They couldn't be bothered to defend 95% of the time and that's normally the biggest sign of a team who's given up. They tried in patches but overall couldn't give a crap about the results
 
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468850) said:
@mike said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468845) said:
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468844) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468839) said:
@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468837) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468781) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468777) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468774) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468771) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468769) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
@tilllindemann said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468763) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

That’s a sweeping statement. I thought they played with some fight against Manly, they were just outclassed.

They couldn't be bothered to defend 95% of the time and that's normally the biggest sign of a team who's given up. They tried in patches but overall couldn't give a crap about the results

The current squad are not in their own in that regard. Wests Tigers haven’t defended since it inception. It’s not exactly what they are known for,
 
EXCLUSIVE: Brad Fittler 'won't write off' Wests Tigers role if approached, says club needs to look at Macarthur region

by Mark Churches, WWOS

NSW Blues coach Brad Fittler said he "wouldn't write off anything" when asked if he would consider coaching the Wests Tigers if approached for the role.

Finishing the season 13th on the ladder with just eight wins, the Tigers lurched into crisis after going down to wooden spooners the Bulldogs in a 38-0 thrashing on Sunday.

The pressure on coach Michael Maguire has reached fever pitch, and the odds of the former Rabbitohs premiership coach getting sacked are shortening by the day.

The potential for the Tigers to enter the market for a new coach comes at a time when talk of Fittler making a return to clubland has been doing the rounds. The former Roosters coach was recently linked with the Eels as pressure intensified on Brad Arthur but he has since made it clear he's not interested.

Yet he's made it clear that he has some level of interest in returning to NRL coaching should the right job come up and was asked on Wide World of Sports' Freddy and The Eighth whether he would consider the top job at the Tigers if he was approached by the club.

"I wouldn't write off anything, but I've got to say I love working for Channel Nine and I love coaching State of Origin and working for New South Wales Rugby League," Fittler said.

"They're two dream jobs. They seem to marry well with each other.

"You've got to take me kicking and screaming. If there were a couple of clubs that are in really good positions at the moment, I think the Tigers are one of them."

Fittler added that he felt an emotional attachment to the club the Tigers should be but isn't due to his upbringing in Ashcroft.

"I grew up out of Ashcroft, which is in amongst the Campbelltown area and the Campbelltown competition," Fittler said.

"When I grew up, within five kilometres there were anything up to 10 clubs within five kilometres. There is now none.

"The people haven't gone away, they just seem to have stopped putting effort into those areas."

Freddy & Joey hand out end of season awards: Freddy & The Eighth - Finals Week 1
Before taking the Blues job in 2018, Fittler had experience as a head coach for his former team the Roosters, between 2007 and 2009. After a successful first season, things turned sour and he was eventually sacked with a 43 per cent win rate.

Discussing the current issues at the Wests Tigers, Fittler said he can't understand why the club hasn't attempted to expand its footprint in the Macarthur region of south-western Sydney.

Back in December of 2019, the NSW government declared Sydney's Greater Macarthur area as a growth area, with plans to fund and deliver up to 40,000 jobs and 58,000 new homes over the next 20 years.

Currently, the A League is the only premier competition to have expanded into that region following the introduction of new team Macarthur FC.

"If you look at Macarthur, going down towards Canberra, that has the highest growth population in Australia," Fittler said.
 
@thedaboss said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468858) said:
This off season is already nearly as good as last season and we aint even 1 full week in yet

Wait until one of our players suddenly wants out. Usually happens around September/October.
 
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@jc99 said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468837) said:
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@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468764) said:
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@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.

It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.

We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.

People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.

They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?

Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.

As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).

I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.

Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.

For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all

That’s a sweeping statement. I thought they played with some fight against Manly, they were just outclassed.

They couldn't be bothered to defend 95% of the time and that's normally the biggest sign of a team who's given up. They tried in patches but overall couldn't give a crap about the results

The current squad are not in their own in that regard. Wests Tigers haven’t defended since it inception. It’s not exactly what they are known for,

Which is why we need to bring in someone who can fix that
 
@thedaboss said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468858) said:
This off season is already nearly as good as last season and we aint even 1 full week in yet

Expecting middle of week two to be fireworks
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468855) said:
EXCLUSIVE: Brad Fittler 'won't write off' Wests Tigers role if approached, says club needs to look at Macarthur region

by Mark Churches, WWOS

NSW Blues coach Brad Fittler said he "wouldn't write off anything" when asked if he would consider coaching the Wests Tigers if approached for the role.

Finishing the season 13th on the ladder with just eight wins, the Tigers lurched into crisis after going down to wooden spooners the Bulldogs in a 38-0 thrashing on Sunday.

The pressure on coach Michael Maguire has reached fever pitch, and the odds of the former Rabbitohs premiership coach getting sacked are shortening by the day.

The potential for the Tigers to enter the market for a new coach comes at a time when talk of Fittler making a return to clubland has been doing the rounds. The former Roosters coach was recently linked with the Eels as pressure intensified on Brad Arthur but he has since made it clear he's not interested.

Yet he's made it clear that he has some level of interest in returning to NRL coaching should the right job come up and was asked on Wide World of Sports' Freddy and The Eighth whether he would consider the top job at the Tigers if he was approached by the club.

"I wouldn't write off anything, but I've got to say I love working for Channel Nine and I love coaching State of Origin and working for New South Wales Rugby League," Fittler said.

"They're two dream jobs. They seem to marry well with each other.

"You've got to take me kicking and screaming. If there were a couple of clubs that are in really good positions at the moment, I think the Tigers are one of them."

Fittler added that he felt an emotional attachment to the club the Tigers should be but isn't due to his upbringing in Ashcroft.

"I grew up out of Ashcroft, which is in amongst the Campbelltown area and the Campbelltown competition," Fittler said.

"When I grew up, within five kilometres there were anything up to 10 clubs within five kilometres. There is now none.

"The people haven't gone away, they just seem to have stopped putting effort into those areas."

Freddy & Joey hand out end of season awards: Freddy & The Eighth - Finals Week 1
Before taking the Blues job in 2018, Fittler had experience as a head coach for his former team the Roosters, between 2007 and 2009. After a successful first season, things turned sour and he was eventually sacked with a 43 per cent win rate.

Discussing the current issues at the Wests Tigers, Fittler said he can't understand why the club hasn't attempted to expand its footprint in the Macarthur region of south-western Sydney.

Back in December of 2019, the NSW government declared Sydney's Greater Macarthur area as a growth area, with plans to fund and deliver up to 40,000 jobs and 58,000 new homes over the next 20 years.

Currently, the A League is the only premier competition to have expanded into that region following the introduction of new team Macarthur FC.

"If you look at Macarthur, going down towards Canberra, that has the highest growth population in Australia," Fittler said.

Freddy is correct however not sure he's suited for a full time coaching role, seems better suited for origin and international coaching
 
No idea what's in Maguire's extended contract terms but unless it contains key performance indicators (such as a requirement we make the finals) that might entitle the club to pull the plug without having to pay out his contract in full, it could get very expensive if we punt Madge and have to pay him out plus pay his replacement as well.
 
Some people need to take a step back and try looking at this as a rugby league team with some issues.

Now Tyga and others have passed on some information that tends to suggest the playing group is divided and not unified when it comes to game plan and coach.

No professional sporting organisation can function under those conditions, all that go through that fail miserably in the end.

Instead of worrying about the semantics of who may be the mystery player/players who are against the coach lets instead put that rugby league head back on and focus and the constants that we do know.

We do know that Brooks and Nofo fail to fire when it really matters. We do know that Brooks and Nofo have played very poorly when previous coaches have been losing the PR battle. We do know that Brooks and Nofo are two of our MOST senior players.

If and its still a big 'if' as we are not privy to the review these two lads are not buying in then with your rugby league brain back on you would realise that this would have a massive destabilising effect on the younger playing roster.

These kids would lose focus, have to deal with the pressure of feeling like they are caught between two realities.

So 'if' this story is accurate there really is only one solution and that is to move both players on!

Once moved on lets begin again and start judging these young guys. We would also have much more of an idea if the coach can actually coach.

Young players who are not part of the senior playing roster who might reside in the anti Maguire camp should be exempt from punishment. These guys have walked in to a club and have never seen what success looks like or had quality leaders around them teaching them know how to act. They have had Brooks, Mybe and Nofo to show them ropes. Let that sink!

In short id like to see Madge have another crack without Mybe, Brooks and Nofo and see what he can do with a unified squad.

Would be great to have a team all buying in like they did back in 05.
 
From big sports breakfast

"I don't think the way he wants to play suits the Tigers team..."

@joshreynolds9 opened up on Michael Maguire's coaching style and why he's not the right fit for the Tigers moving forward.

LISTEN: tab.cm/3ncLJCo
 
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