Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[jadtiger]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

You can not possibly be comparing Sheens making the playoffs 3 times in 10 years compared to Bellamy making them constantly and winning multiple grand finals because if you are it is like comparing a biplane to a jet

 

[tony soprano]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

Tim Sheens coached for 9 years at the Wests Tigers, we made the finals 3 times. The only 3 times we have ever made the finals and I am a huge Sheens defender, but the club needed a new direction and a new voice at the end of 2012.

I know amazing results for this club

 

[batboy]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.

Sheens was the 3rd coach...
Are you a Parra or Panthers fan by any chance?

 

[stevo133]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.

Sheens was the 3rd coach...
Are you a Parra or Panthers fan by any chance?

Well believe it or not sheens is tigers most successful coach

 

[cochise]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.

Sheens was the 3rd coach...
Are you a Parra or Panthers fan by any chance?

Well believe it or not sheens is tigers most successful coach

He is our best coach no question.

 

[Snake]

My head is spinning from the constant discussion about the coach for 2022. My opinion I think is obvious - we need a new coach. However, regardless of who is coach, I think the following needs to happen:
1. Players who are not on board with the coach be given the chance to negotiate with other clubs from November 1st. They would be players I would not look at for first grade in 2022.
2. The new coach must be prepared to work with Tim Sheens - including being able to take advice from him.
3. Tim Sheens needs to work some magic and start showing outside players that this is a club taking control and on a good path for the future.

Sheens would now squat about the younger generational player he has been out of the game a long time and the game is nothing like when he left , but he has plenty of mentoring ability . Whether a rookie coach would be acceptable to that scenario remains to be seen .

 

[weststigerman]

When somebody today sent a text message to ABC Sport about Maguire deserving to be sacked, Mr Opportunist and Mr Each-way bet, Andrew Moore, said something like " the issues at that joint run deeper than the coach". I sent a text message to his program and asked him to be more specific and tell us what the deeper issues at WT are. To my knowledge, he didn't respond.

This is what happens when a, supposedly, professional organisation like WT grant access for a "doco" that, by it's own publicity, exposes the "truth". It becomes the "truth" by the ignroance, bias and filter of every person who watches it.

Whoever approved it is a cancer on the culture and standing of WT as a professional sporting entity.

That would be Pascoe. The word is Madge didn’t want to do it.

 

[Tim Sheens]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

And he was aligned with Humphries and the backended contract disasters

The salary cap was a mess when he left, it is the reason Potter had such little power.

Especially with the Grange gifting director responsible for the fall of the NSW Premier interfering with the Farah contract and causing further disharmony.

 

[stevo133]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.

Sheens was the 3rd coach...
Are you a Parra or Panthers fan by any chance?

Well believe it or not sheens is tigers most successful coach

He is our best coach no question.

And believe it or not Madge is tigers 2nd longest serving coach

 

[batboy]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

Tim Sheens coached for 9 years at the Wests Tigers, we made the finals 3 times. The only 3 times we have ever made the finals and I am a huge Sheens defender, but the club needed a new direction and a new voice at the end of 2012.

Not to be picky, But he coached us for 10 years bud...

He also didn't make the finals for the 5 years he had coaching before he got to us....
He struck gold with the squad in 2005, And again when he got Gareth Ellis...
As soon as Gareth Broke down - We were shot.

 

[Needaname]

When somebody today sent a text message to ABC Sport about Maguire deserving to be sacked, Mr Opportunist and Mr Each-way bet, Andrew Moore, said something like " the issues at that joint run deeper than the coach". I sent a text message to his program and asked him to be more specific and tell us what the deeper issues at WT are. To my knowledge, he didn't respond.

This is what happens when a, supposedly, professional organisation like WT grant access for a "doco" that, by it's own publicity, exposes the "truth". It becomes the "truth" by the ignroance, bias and filter of every person who watches it.

Whoever approved it is a cancer on the culture and standing of WT as a professional sporting entity.

That would be Pascoe. The word is Madge didn’t want to do it.

I wonder if that was a strategic decision?

 

[gallagher]

The really bad decision around Sheens last time was re-signing him too early. Then we did the same a decade later with Madge.

 

[gallagher]

When somebody today sent a text message to ABC Sport about Maguire deserving to be sacked, Mr Opportunist and Mr Each-way bet, Andrew Moore, said something like " the issues at that joint run deeper than the coach". I sent a text message to his program and asked him to be more specific and tell us what the deeper issues at WT are. To my knowledge, he didn't respond.

This is what happens when a, supposedly, professional organisation like WT grant access for a "doco" that, by it's own publicity, exposes the "truth". It becomes the "truth" by the ignroance, bias and filter of every person who watches it.

Whoever approved it is a cancer on the culture and standing of WT as a professional sporting entity.

That would be Pascoe. The word is Madge didn’t want to do it.

I wonder if that was a strategic decision?

A vanity decision I reckon. He loves a camera.

 

[cochise]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.

Sheens was the 3rd coach...
Are you a Parra or Panthers fan by any chance?

Well believe it or not sheens is tigers most successful coach

He is our best coach no question.
And believe it or not Madge is tigers 2nd longest serving coach

I don't need to believe it? That is the thing with facts, they don't require belief, even if they are irrelevant.

 

[cochise]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

Tim Sheens coached for 9 years at the Wests Tigers, we made the finals 3 times. The only 3 times we have ever made the finals and I am a huge Sheens defender, but the club needed a new direction and a new voice at the end of 2012.

Not to be picky, But he coached us for 10 years bud...

He also didn't make the finals for the 5 years he had coaching before he got to us....
He struck gold with the squad in 2005, And again when he got Gareth Ellis...
As soon as Gareth Broke down - We were shot.

He was a great coach for those young guys, Ellis is still one of my favourite Wests Tigers' players.

 

[stevo133]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.

Sheens was the 3rd coach...
Are you a Parra or Panthers fan by any chance?

Well believe it or not sheens is tigers most successful coach

He is our best coach no question.
And believe it or not Madge is tigers 2nd longest serving coach


I don't need to believe it? That is the thing with facts, they don't require belief, even if they are irrelevant.

Tigers need consistency instead of learning a new coach’s play style

 

[batboy]

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

What do you mean?

6 coaches in 10 years how many will it be this decade

We have sacked 1 coach in 8 years

I mean that in the last 8 years (actually 9 years) the Wests Tigers have only *sacked* 1 coach. Jason Taylor.

And Mick potter

Potter wasn't re-signed not sacked technically.

What ever you say

And plus I didn’t say we sacked 6 coaches in 10 years I’m well aware the Ivan ditched the club

What is your point? Was Andrew Webster ever employed as first grade coach? Your point is ridiculous and intentionally misleading. I can prove it.

The Wests Tigers have employed 5 coaches as first grade coachs in 18 years and sacked 2.

This is a fact, does it meet your narrative? The fact is that the Wests Tigers have sacked 2 coaches in 18 years.

Lets get real.
He coaches 2 games until Ivan arrived

Andrew Webster was never employed as first grade coach.. We have had 5 coaches in 18 years. Why did you pick 10 years? The answer is for maximum alignment with your narrative.
sheens 2012, mick potter 2014, Jason Taylor 2017, Ivan Cleary 2018 Madge might be sacked that’s huh i said 10 years
5 Coaches in 18 years. Sacked only 2 coaches in 18 years. Does that work for you in your narrative?

Why*

Why didnt you say 18 years? We have had 5 coaches in 18 years as well. Does that not match the narrative?

How many coaches have the Wests Tigers sacked in 18 years?

2

Hey when was the last time tigers made the finals? 10 years Coincidentally when we had 5 coaches, tigers should of never sacked sheens.


Sacking Sheens was the right decision imo.

So how do you feel about bringing him back?

I thought at the time it was the right decision to move him on, I would have him as coach next year working with an up and coming coach to take over in the next 2 years.

That’s hindsight for you because sacking him clearly was a mistake.

No not really, what is right for an organisation at one point in time may not be the same thing 10 years later.

So tigers were successful without him?

Never said we were successful, I am a fan of Sheens. Just because things didn't get better does not mean the decision to relieve Sheens was wrong. It means the decision to appoint is replacement was wrong.

Ok why did tigers sack him?

I think going from predicted premiers to not making the finals may have had an impact.

Imagine if storm sacked Bellamy for missing one year of the finals?

One year?
Yeah 2011 tigers were 4th

Tim Sheens coached for 9 years at the Wests Tigers, we made the finals 3 times. The only 3 times we have ever made the finals and I am a huge Sheens defender, but the club needed a new direction and a new voice at the end of 2012.

Not to be picky, But he coached us for 10 years bud...

He also didn't make the finals for the 5 years he had coaching before he got to us....
He struck gold with the squad in 2005, And again when he got Gareth Ellis...
As soon as Gareth Broke down - We were shot.

He was a great coach for those young guys, Ellis is still one of my favourite Wests Tigers' players.

The Best player we ever had man....
Champion on and off the field.

 

[BeeJay]

I think it would be a boost for the club to stick by madge, show the media they are willing to back the man they extended not even 12 months ago and let him have more time to see his plan come through developing the younger players and youth pathways. Move on some more deadwood over the off season and let him continue to build the team

 

[Needaname]

The really bad decision around Sheens last time was re-signing him too early. Then we did the same a decade later with Madge.

Would of went home to Penrith if we didn’t… Gould was looking at Sheens to commence his rebuild. Imagine if we decided not to resign him and picked up Ivan instead…

 

[stevo133]

Who do you think west tigers best player was this year? Mine is between daine Laurie or Adam Doueihi