Mark O’Neill resigns (fired)

@Benjirific said:
@sideline eye said:
@Tiger4life said:
@Benjirific said:
The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

If this is true, that Pascoe dealt with it then JT wanted more done , than gee our coach has a long memory and likes to hold grudges.

If what you are saying is true (and I have serious doubts), it would have gone to a board meeting at which the majority voted for him to be allowed to resign. This isn't a Wests/Balmain thing, it is a simple matter of misbehaviour by a senior manager. JT had him sacked via some back door route? Nobody ever went to the moon? Give me a break. All this happened after an independent investigation.

If you want to believe the spin that WT have put out publicly, go for it. There was an internal investigation, from which Pascoe determined punishments agreed to by Go, and for that matter agreed to by the NRL Integrity Commission. It was to end here until JT stuck his nose in with some other board members.

If the punishment which the CEO determined & the chair agreed was the correct outcome, and the NRL Integrity Commission agreed was the correct outcome, any smart board accepts those recommendations.

If you want to add some credibility to an otherwise incredible story, then back it up. Who is your source? How do you know this version of events is true? Otherwise it's just another rumour seemingly started by you.
 
Pretty laughable that Taylor would wield any sort of power to get his employer sacked. Are there that many board members that love JT so much they would go against the desires of their CEO, Chairperson and the NRL Integrity Unit? Extremely doubtful.

Just as doubtful as someone who's never claimed to have inside info suddenly being a close mate of the Board.

If O'Neil acted in an inappropriate manner to his assistant then i'm sure Go, a staunch feminist, would want him gone if he admitted his actions. If it was a player he would have been stood down and reprimanded, but probably not sacked. That's the difference, and one he obviously hadn't got his head around. He wasn't just one of the boys anymore. He was a senior manager at the club.

If he's replaced by a highly reputable person with no affiliations to the club hopefully that would help the tin foil hat brigade from insinuating issues and agendas everytime anything happens.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Pretty laughable that Taylor would wield any sort of power to get his employer sacked. Are there that many board members that love JT so much they would go against the desires of their CEO, Chairperson and the NRL Integrity Unit? Extremely doubtful.

Just as doubtful as someone who's never claimed to have inside info suddenly being a close mate of the Board.

If O'Neil acted in an inappropriate manner to his assistant then i'm sure Go, a staunch feminist, would want him gone if he admitted his actions. If it was a player he would have been stood down and reprimanded, but probably not sacked. That's the difference, and one he obviously hadn't got his head around. He wasn't just one of the boys anymore. He was a senior manager at the club.

If he's replaced by a highly reputable person with no affiliations to the club hopefully that would help the tin foil hat brigade from insinuating issues and agendas everytime anything happens.

Just as laughable as Farah getting coaches sacked 're BOARD decisions.
Of course the anti Taylor are going to accuse him of being involved just like the anti Farah have done for years - 're coaches
You Either believe that at any given time certain individuals have the power to influence the boards decisions OR you trust that the board makes informed decisions without bias. You can't have it both ways.
 
@Telltails said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Pretty laughable that Taylor would wield any sort of power to get his employer sacked. Are there that many board members that love JT so much they would go against the desires of their CEO, Chairperson and the NRL Integrity Unit? Extremely doubtful.

Just as doubtful as someone who's never claimed to have inside info suddenly being a close mate of the Board.

If O'Neil acted in an inappropriate manner to his assistant then i'm sure Go, a staunch feminist, would want him gone if he admitted his actions. If it was a player he would have been stood down and reprimanded, but probably not sacked. That's the difference, and one he obviously hadn't got his head around. He wasn't just one of the boys anymore. He was a senior manager at the club.

If he's replaced by a highly reputable person with no affiliations to the club hopefully that would help the tin foil hat brigade from insinuating issues and agendas everytime anything happens.

Just as laughable as Farah getting coaches sacked 're BOARD decisions.
Of course the anti Taylor are going to accuse him of being involved just like the anti Farah have done for years - 're coaches
You Either believe that at any given time certain individuals have the power to influence the boards decisions OR you trust that the board makes informed decisions without bias. You can't have it both ways.

I think it's a lot lot more likely (more like 100% likely) that Taylor had Robbie sacked. I doubt that there was anything else behind that decision. As for Taylor being behind O'Neills sacking I really doubt that.
 
Quite frankly if a senior club official exposed himself to a female staff employee, (and this was substantiated), and then this was considered by Go and CEO to be insufficient reason for sacking, then I for one, would be VERY disappointed and concerned at their lack of judgement and professionalism. However, I don't accept this scenario, (Go and Pascoe ARE very professional) instead, I believe, when all the information was gathered a joint decision was made possibly with legal advise.
Strong view from some female friends of mine . Is it fair for a female staff member to be expected to continue working in the same organisation after such an incident? So who should depart? The innocent victim, or the perpetrator?
 
@Telltails said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Pretty laughable that Taylor would wield any sort of power to get his employer sacked. Are there that many board members that love JT so much they would go against the desires of their CEO, Chairperson and the NRL Integrity Unit? Extremely doubtful.

Just as doubtful as someone who's never claimed to have inside info suddenly being a close mate of the Board.

If O'Neil acted in an inappropriate manner to his assistant then i'm sure Go, a staunch feminist, would want him gone if he admitted his actions. If it was a player he would have been stood down and reprimanded, but probably not sacked. That's the difference, and one he obviously hadn't got his head around. He wasn't just one of the boys anymore. He was a senior manager at the club.

If he's replaced by a highly reputable person with no affiliations to the club hopefully that would help the tin foil hat brigade from insinuating issues and agendas everytime anything happens.

Just as laughable as Farah getting coaches sacked 're BOARD decisions.
Of course the anti Taylor are going to accuse him of being involved just like the anti Farah have done for years - 're coaches
You Either believe that at any given time certain individuals have the power to influence the boards decisions OR you trust that the board makes informed decisions without bias. You can't have it both ways.

I doubt our current board members would be the type that topple Premiers with a bottle of Grange, like one that was also instrumental in the ridiculous four year deal that we will still be paying a decent chunk of next year.
 
@Telltails said:
Just as laughable as Farah getting coaches sacked 're BOARD decisions.
Of course the anti Taylor are going to accuse him of being involved just like the anti Farah have done for years - 're coaches
You Either believe that at any given time certain individuals have the power to influence the boards decisions OR you trust that the board makes informed decisions without bias. You can't have it both ways.

Yeah, you can. Because some of our former board were nongs of the highest order.
 
@Masterton said:
@Telltails said:
Just as laughable as Farah getting coaches sacked 're BOARD decisions.
Of course the anti Taylor are going to accuse him of being involved just like the anti Farah have done for years - 're coaches
You Either believe that at any given time certain individuals have the power to influence the boards decisions OR you trust that the board makes informed decisions without bias. You can't have it both ways.

Yeah, you can. Because some of our former board were nongs of the highest order.[/quote

Yeh well that's all a matter of opinion doesn't change the function of what a board is elected to do.
 
Taylor was on the phone straight away to the board members and put O'Neill in , JT hated the fact O'Neill was employed to look over him and was watching him like a hawk regardless what ever O' Neill did was a sackable offence , he did seek legal advice but was told you don't have leg to stand on and it's in your best interests to resign.

The five Wests board members love Taylor and want to extend his contract now , but the other side of the board want to see how he goes next year and make a decision half way through the season.

As for Idris he has not signed yet , should he sign this will leave no money for ET but the club is hoping to move Rankin on which will hopefully leave enough money to sign ET.

Remember a week is long time in League and things change by the day…..
 
Agree that this board would make informed decisions but, the question is who is doing the informing. If the informant has alterea motives then the board would be ill informed. If the information received by the informant is incorrect then in that instance the board would require further information so that an informed decision can be made. In my ill informed opinion. :crazy
 
@Oxygen said:
Taylor was on the phone straight away to the board members and put O'Neill in , JT hated the fact O'Neill was employed to look over him and was watching him like a hawk regardless what ever O' Neill did was a sackable offence , he did seek legal advice but was told you don't have leg to stand on and it's in your best interests to resign.

The five Wests board members love Taylor and want to extend his contract now , but the other side of the board want to see how he goes next year and make a decision half way through the season.

As for Idris he has not signed yet , should he sign this will leave no money for ET but the club is hoping to move Rankin on which will hopefully leave enough money to sign ET.

Remember a week is long time in League and things change by the day…..

Aren't WT just going to replace Buckets with another person to look over JT?
 
@Oxygen said:
Taylor was on the phone straight away to the board members and put O'Neill in , JT hated the fact O'Neill was employed to look over him and was watching him like a hawk regardless what ever O' Neill did was a sackable offence , he did seek legal advice but was told you don't have leg to stand on and it's in your best interests to resign.

The five Wests board members love Taylor and want to extend his contract now , but the other side of the board want to see how he goes next year and make a decision half way through the season.

As for Idris he has not signed yet , should he sign this will leave no money for ET but the club is hoping to move Rankin on which will hopefully leave enough money to sign ET.

Remember a week is long time in League and things change by the day…..

lets hope sanity prevails and taylor is evaluated next year and not now.I am positive not one nrl club would have the slightest interest in him at the moment.He has done nothing except talk himself up and bag everyone before him at the club and delivered nothing.
 
@jadtiger said:
@Oxygen said:
Taylor was on the phone straight away to the board members and put O'Neill in , JT hated the fact O'Neill was employed to look over him and was watching him like a hawk regardless what ever O' Neill did was a sackable offence , he did seek legal advice but was told you don't have leg to stand on and it's in your best interests to resign.

The five Wests board members love Taylor and want to extend his contract now , but the other side of the board want to see how he goes next year and make a decision half way through the season.

As for Idris he has not signed yet , should he sign this will leave no money for ET but the club is hoping to move Rankin on which will hopefully leave enough money to sign ET.

Remember a week is long time in League and things change by the day…..

lets hope sanity prevails and taylor is evaluated next year and not now.I am positive not one nrl club would have the slightest interest in him at the moment.He has done nothing except talk himself up and bag everyone before him at the club and delivered nothing.

Spot On. The biggest question is whether his extension has any bearing on retaining or using Moses and Teddy. I would go to Harry and target Hassler he is on the outer at the Dogs. Give him full control as he desires.
 
@jadtiger said:
@Oxygen said:
Taylor was on the phone straight away to the board members and put O'Neill in , JT hated the fact O'Neill was employed to look over him and was watching him like a hawk regardless what ever O' Neill did was a sackable offence , he did seek legal advice but was told you don't have leg to stand on and it's in your best interests to resign.

The five Wests board members love Taylor and want to extend his contract now , but the other side of the board want to see how he goes next year and make a decision half way through the season.

As for Idris he has not signed yet , should he sign this will leave no money for ET but the club is hoping to move Rankin on which will hopefully leave enough money to sign ET.

Remember a week is long time in League and things change by the day…..

lets hope sanity prevails and taylor is evaluated next year and not now.I am positive not one nrl club would have the slightest interest in him at the moment.He has done nothing except talk himself up and bag everyone before him at the club and delivered nothing.

He really has been a terrible coach hasn't he. I fail to understand why he gets so much support on here. I suppose some people like to hear simplistic comments regarding how bad the past has been and how easy it is to fix it. The fix typically doesn't work.

I doubt though that Taylor had anything to do with O'Neill getting the sack. O'Neill did that all by his lonesome. Can you imagine doing what he did ? Can you imagine lucking into a job worth a couple of hundred grand where you are probably going to get paid 40k outside of that environment and still acting like a muppet. One of the all time stupid decisions.
 
@Oxygen said:
Taylor was on the phone straight away to the board members and put O'Neill in , JT hated the fact O'Neill was employed to look over him and was watching him like a hawk regardless what ever O' Neill did was a sackable offence , he did seek legal advice but was told you don't have leg to stand on and it's in your best interests to resign.

The five Wests board members love Taylor and want to extend his contract now , but the other side of the board want to see how he goes next year and make a decision half way through the season.

As for Idris he has not signed yet , should he sign this will leave no money for ET but the club is hoping to move Rankin on which will hopefully leave enough money to sign ET.

Remember a week is long time in League and things change by the day…..

So is Taylor like one of those little school boys that goes running and Dob's. Anyway if o'neill wasn't a bone head then he wouldn't have anything to dob about.

Surely the board wont make a decision on Taylor until next year. He hasn't achieved anything, our defence is still average and we haven't played sustainable football. We had an exciting finish to the year and rejoiced that we nearly made the 8.

So now we are trying to get rid of a player that if I'm not mistaken JT bought in who wasn't the best, so we can buy a Maybe in Idris and risk losing one of the shining lights from last season.

it worries me that (if the rumour is correct) he has the backing of the Wests side of the board cause it can't be on performance alone and that in its self is wrong - if true.
 
Taylor Evil spawn of Satan and his Machiavellian plots….fair dinkum... :unamused:
 
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