Meyer: cambo has once last chance

[jctiger]

Which one?

I know the heritage jerseys were selling like hotcakes at LO

The black main strip …...... still no sign of it and here we are coming into Round 7 😕

I was told on Friday that we are looking at another five weeks before the black strip is back on the shelf

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[GNR4LIFE]

Lol advertized on MMM? cos everyone listens to MMM.

WT's are in C-town for the long haul. Deal with it.

 

[Tony33]

Lol advertized on MMM? cos everyone listens to MMM.

WT's are in C-town for the long haul. Deal with it.

what was advertised on MMM ?

 

[happy_tiger]

I was there, I don't care what it looked like on Tele…
Nor do I care how it sounded....
The reason the crowd sounded large was because we spent all night getting shafted by the Refs and the punters that WERE there were all screaming blue murder.
I was also at last years Penrith (Rd 2?) match and there were much less on Friday.
These conspiracy theories make me laugh... The crowd (For whatever reason) wasn't there... The hills were empty, Most the GA was empty... They actually ended up letting the GA sit in the membership stands to make it look like there were people there.
And a couple re-checks were done on the numbers to make sure it was correct as they couldn't believe the lack of support!!
I'm sick of excuses, They say lack of competition, Bad scheduling... Didn't know the tickets were cheap!! (Even though it was advertised on MMM ALL WEEK!! Heck, We had the Panthers (You know, The team up the road a tad) on a beautiful Sunday Arvo last year... Again, Nobody came. Regardless of the beliefs, I can't see CSS surviving ANOTHER year of under 10k average crowds...

And for the record, The LAST match at CSS for the Magpies got under 8000 in attendance THIER LAST GAME!!, The one before that was under 6000... Nothing has changed in 15 years and going on the current attitude, Won't change any time soon!!
Stop the finger pointing, Stop the blame game and speak with your feet...

Their must be a reason why crowds in the last few seasons have dropped off so much out at Campbelltown

I think throwing your arms in the air and saying this is last chance isn't the answer

Do an online poll asking fans why they won't go to Campbelltown

Find the answer and fix it , how does it look to the South Wests fans when it is obvious that the club is giving up on them so physically and vocally

 

[jctiger]

People whose tickets were not scanning in front of me had the staff scan a entry pass and the gate was still used so it still counted

My family pass did not scan and we were just ushered thru a side gate, so unless they were counting them with pen and paper I don't think we were counted.
And the attended did say to her mate, " here's more tickets that won't scan " so we weren't the first.
Definitely more than 6500

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[Demonborger]

I don't believe for one second that every WT fan that resides in the Macarthur is of the kind on the Magpies forum who want to see a return of the Magpies, 12 games a year at CSS and the death of WT. A better commitment to the area is needed, coupled with some sustained on field success to draw the region in. Sport wise, Sydney fans are fickle by nature and want to see their team win or at the very least compete in return for their hard earned.

All Manly home games going forward should be at CSS for the very obvious reasons, with at least another Sydney side to play there. If we are playing well, Leichhardt will get decent crowds irrespective of whom we're playing. Unfortunately while ANZ are paying us to play, they get first dibs on all quality opponents in Sydney so an equitable distribution of the remaining quality opposition is required at LO and CSS. This is something that should ensure both regions see quality football and enjoy bumper crowds as a result.

CB im assuming that your from the C-town area so i think you might be an ideal person to put this to..

in your post you say that "better commitment in the area is needed". Im just very curious to know how the wests tigers can be more committed to south-west sydney or even the magpies side of the joint venture ?

We train in the inner-west suburb of Concord which is closest to Wests Ashfield but also ideally positioned next to Leichardt/ Balmain. So in terms of keeping both sides of the joint venture happy i think Concord is perfectly located as a training base for our franchise (Unless we get our own centre of excellence in C-town).

In terms of opposition allocation to C-town and leichardt, some posters seem to be of the belief that C-town continually hosts low crowd drawing teams. But from what i can tell that couldn't be further from the truth with allocation of matches being even across all three grounds. That can't be used as an excuse anyway with the Penrith game in round two last year on a sunny Sunday afternoon only attracting 9700 (you can't get closer to CSS then Penrith).

**In terms of marketing and exposure of games Im not to sure why there has been so many complaints. If anything i think that the inner-west matches get neglected more so then those at C-town. leichardt games seem to get exposed in the media much more but that is from external sources and as a result of external forces, this has nothing to do with Wests Tigers management and does not depict any lack of commitment to CSS or percieved preference to leichardt. In fact the club marketed this weeks game well with the whole "2460 vs 2040" challenge, the gear-zone meet and greet and the $10 tickets to watch 4 games including the magpies (even though it wasn't advertised properly, they still tried to "commit"to something).**

I also read somewhere as well that the Tigers allocate double the resources to C-town marketing then they do in any other area, but not to sure how accurate that statement is.

Seriously, as i type this i ask myself how are they not committed ? what more can they do ? can anyone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how the Wests Tigers (not the media) neglect the Wests side of the JV in preference of Balmain ?

Perhaps the $30 ticket prices are to expensive ? well Mayer has recognised that and brought the prices down to $10 for our next match against the Broncos and its been put out there (hopefully he markets it better this time though). So where is the neglection ? they recognised a potential contributory factor to poor crowds at CSS and they've addressed it. To me that shows some "commitment" to draw better crowds at C-town.

Im not having a pot shot at anyone i seriously am not i'm just so shocked and dumbfounded by some of the complaints, conspiracy theories and the general whinging by some people on here when their statements are mostly not supported by the facts.

Im a WESTS TIGERS supporter who doesn't live in either heartland, with no connection to either side of the JV and i attend most home games across all three grounds. I have no bias and I'm dead curious…

This absolutely! If the locals don't get the ball rolling and get involved in active support then nothing will ever happen, even if the club could spend a billion $ on marketing.

 

[Black_n_White]

Tony33, your post was too long to quote, but the main point is that we dont seem to have a strategy in place that specifically targets the area in a way that is making contact with the locals. I like that Leichhardt is doing well and doesnt need much help to fuel the promotional beast, but we arent taking full advantage of the situation. Seeing as the nostalgia kicks in around Leichhardt games, make sure the fire is stoked, and then focus on ways to touch base out Campelltown directly. Its not that we are doing nothing at all out there, its that what we are doing is being proven ineffective.

The issue in essence is that we work it as if its an old blood area, when really we have to be full on engaging it head on because of its new growth population almost as if it is a start up area… Im a Magpies old boy, and I will tell you straight out Magpies didnt have a strangle hold on the place back then, Wests Tigers thought the punters out there were a given, and the rest is as it is.... the current 500,000 odd out that way arent to be forgotten or left to the way side, its all but an untapped resource of fans, we just have to make contact.

 

[Black_n_White]

if I wasnt on here, I would have had no idea that there was the $10 deal… I follow Mayer... thats not making contact, thats a fail... as long as we learn from it...

 

[batboy]

Lol advertized on MMM? cos everyone listens to MMM.

WT's are in C-town for the long haul. Deal with it.

Yeah, You're right…
Can't listen to the radio when you spend all day arguing with anyone who'll respond on internet forums.

- I beg to differ, If your beloved SW League loving population don't start to support the games, The games won't be there!!
End of argument!!

 

[Black_n_White]

Lol advertized on MMM? cos everyone listens to MMM.

WT's are in C-town for the long haul. Deal with it.

Yeah, You're right…
Can't listen to the radio when you spend all day arguing with anyone who'll respond on internet forums.

- I beg to differ, If your beloved SW League loving population don't start to support the games, The games won't be there!!
End of argument!!

If you think the NRL will allow us to abandon the SW corridor, you are kidding yourself… we may not have a plan for how to tame it, but the NRL has its ducks in a row and has stated they are prepared to fight for these areas. Big tip, it wont be by a new expansion team. Its ours, we need to figure out how to deal with it...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I know you're probably hanging for the day we leave the South West just like the Magpie fossils are waiting for the day Balmain die Batboy, but its not happening, the NRL will step in and help before letting us up and leave and let it get taken over by Soccer.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Tony33, your post was too long to quote, but the main point is that we dont seem to have a strategy in place that specifically targets the area in a way that is making contact with the locals. I like that Leichhardt is doing well and doesnt need much help to fuel the promotional beast, but we arent taking full advantage of the situation. Seeing as the nostalgia kicks in around Leichhardt games, make sure the fire is stoked, and then focus on ways to touch base out Campelltown directly. Its not that we are doing nothing at all out there, its that what we are doing is being proven ineffective.

The issue in essence is that we work it as if its an old blood area, when really we have to be full on engaging it head on because of its new growth population almost as if it is a start up area… Im a Magpies old boy, and I will tell you straight out Magpies didnt have a strangle hold on the place back then, Wests Tigers thought the punters out there were a given, and the rest is as it is.... the current 500,000 odd out that way arent to be forgotten or left to the way side, its all but an untapped resource of fans, we just have to make contact.

I think a good way to tap into the local community would be through SOO, as they already show an interest in the game it gives the club something to work with.

My idea would be for the club and council to put up a big screen at the ground for a Brisbane game and have all of our available players there. As far as promotion of the club at the event goes, there are experts in that field to get that sorted.

Well, that is my two bobs worth.

 

[gallagher]

I know you're probably hanging for the day we leave the South West just like the Magpie fossils are waiting for the day Balmain die Batboy, but its not happening, the NRL will step in and help before letting us up and leave and let it get taken over by Soccer.

How will soccer take over if they dont play games there?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I know you're probably hanging for the day we leave the South West just like the Magpie fossils are waiting for the day Balmain die Batboy, but its not happening, the NRL will step in and help before letting us up and leave and let it get taken over by Soccer.

How will soccer take over if they dont play games there?

Kids in the area will take up Soccer instead of League.

 

[gallagher]

I know you're probably hanging for the day we leave the South West just like the Magpie fossils are waiting for the day Balmain die Batboy, but its not happening, the NRL will step in and help before letting us up and leave and let it get taken over by Soccer.

How will soccer take over if they dont play games there?

Kids in the area will take up Soccer instead of League.

Based on what? If neither league or soccer are playing games there why would one sport dominate?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Have you seen how popular the Wanderers are? a lot more popular than us.

 

[cochise]

I think this thread shows how complex an issue this really is. There are many people stating that the club is not engaging the area but no one is really able to come up with ideas to fix the problem.

 

[glebe_tiger]

bit off topic with the main focus on sat nights crowd numbers but what did we get money wise for the games we used to play at bluetongue? i think the deal the eels did to play in darwin $4million for 4 games next 4 years is a pretty good deal. something like that would have been good for us financially.

 

[system]

I think the simple reality is that the overwhelming majority of diehards are people who do not live in the Balmain or Campbelltown areas.

When you have always had to travel to support your team you tend to be less precious about it all.

That is my observation. The straw poll in my area of the members seating. Out of 30 or so I asked 4 were from either Balmain or Campbelltown and their immediate neighbouring suburbs

 

[batboy]

I know you're probably hanging for the day we leave the South West just like the Magpie fossils are waiting for the day Balmain die Batboy, but its not happening, the NRL will step in and help before letting us up and leave and let it get taken over by Soccer.

You couldn't be more wrong, But that is nothing new….
Campbelltown is the best ground we play at, My personal favourite, About an hour closer to my house and where I made some of my best mates through the club and its class facility... So I love the venue!!
What tires me is the lack of support and the fact no matter what the club does out there, It simply isn't enough!! Most forget the team is an actual football team whose main objective is to win games, This alone brings fans and sponsors.
It's like they're expected to be handing out ice creams at the movies, Or washing car windscreens at the mall every day!! It also seems readily forgotten that what time the team does have to partake in such promotional activities has to be split between 2 areas that are quite distant in the terms of Sydney. - Both Junior bases have thus far proven vital to our success.
After the game I stood 6ft away from a drunken Wests Magpies tragic as he had a jibbering argument with our CEO about what he personally expected from the club. - Probably one of the Non-Members?
What I do know, Is no matter where we are from, Or where we play... This club is all any of us have!!
I also know as fact that LO is a nightmare to organize on game day, But we get it for a song... So any crowd is quite profitable. On the other hand, CSS is a breeze to organize a game at, But expensive as hell!! And when we don't get the numbers, It's a backward step. If the crowd figures from the last 2 weeks were reversed I would hazard a guess that the LO with 6,500 would still be more beneficial to the pockets of our club!!
What I also dislike a great deal, Is the lack of respect that the WT's get for throwing games at C'Town, I realize there are issues, I realize there has been mistakes made... But the club has not abandoned the Stadium nor the SW, Whilst the patrons have obviously abandoned the WT's. And are quite proud of the fact!!
I think it is a credit to the administration that they still front up to CSS for the last few years when they KNOW there is a big chance they are in for a kick to the teeth for their efforts and it's gonna cost them quite a bit of money!!
- How many 12hr days would you do, Just to come home $50 poorer? (Assuming you have a job)
We have a team, Weather it's the team we started with or not... It's a team.
I support it whole heartedly and so do most people I know... I do my best to help out when I can. It's funny that the SWS has commonly been known as the battlers, But here we are in battle to stay afloat and the trenches are empty!!

In regards to Soccer, Maybe the uptake is a bit slow.... But people don't realize "It IS the world game" Australia has a more diverse culture than most places. High level immigration, And a great deal of that is firmly planted in SWS. Honestly, It's not a matter of if Soccer takes over the area... It's a matter of when (If it hasn't already)!! I know Gus Gould is a great talker, But he will find there are not a lot of listeners if he thinks he can take on the world game!! I believe there is enough room for both out there, But league will have to take a back seat... As does every other sport, In most other countries!! I've seen a lot of our star players who are fanatical about soccer... I've not seen many of our Soccer identities so fanatical about league...

Long and the short of it is, I don't care where we play... Or in what colours. I care that my family will follow the same team I follow. That Benji Marshall won't be that guy that used to play for that team that aint around no more.... I don't believe the NRL would let us go, Or change the name of the Franchise... But Charity starts at home, It's a club and we are part of it or we are not... Sitting back pointing fingers will do nothing. We are in control of our destiny... Time to GET ON BOARD!!