Mitch Moses Denied Release - Confirmed

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“I’ve spoken with him (Arthur) and we’ve had a few talks,’’ Nofoaluma said.

“There are a lot of positive things that you hear from him and Mitch has told me the same thing.

So Mitch is trying to talk his mates over to Parra as well. Sigh!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-flyer-david-nofoaluma-has-met-with-parramatta-eels-coach-brad-arthur/news-story/c41c5a8ebd9e25a1031ba438a0f23a24

If true, he needs to be sacked effective immediately. We can't be having a bloke in camp talking other players into leaving. That is utterly unacceptable. Totally unacceptable.
 
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Benny Elias on NRL 360 saying that he wants Moses to stay at WT for the rest of the year.

Does anyone really care what Benny thinks? Zero influence in my mind.
 
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“I’ve spoken with him (Arthur) and we’ve had a few talks,’’ Nofoaluma said.

“There are a lot of positive things that you hear from him and Mitch has told me the same thing.

So Mitch is trying to talk his mates over to Parra as well. Sigh!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-flyer-david-nofoaluma-has-met-with-parramatta-eels-coach-brad-arthur/news-story/c41c5a8ebd9e25a1031ba438a0f23a24

White ant Moses already talking players to go to the club that rejected him.

Or just a quick and effective way for Nofo to bump up his asking price and put the pressure on WT?
 
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“I’ve spoken with him (Arthur) and we’ve had a few talks,’’ Nofoaluma said.

“There are a lot of positive things that you hear from him and Mitch has told me the same thing.

So Mitch is trying to talk his mates over to Parra as well. Sigh!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-flyer-david-nofoaluma-has-met-with-parramatta-eels-coach-brad-arthur/news-story/c41c5a8ebd9e25a1031ba438a0f23a24

If true, he needs to be sacked effective immediately. We can't be having a bloke in camp talking other players into leaving. That is utterly unacceptable. Totally unacceptable.

That is exactly what Moses wants though.
If we let him go to Parra in the next week or 2 I want some sort of compensation for our club by Parra. Sacking him will see WT get absolutely nothing in return, which would be worst case scenario.
 
Phil Gould says Wests Tigers shouldn't be bullied into releasing Mitchell Moses to Parramatta

By Stuart Honeysett
an hour ago

Wests Tigers should not be "bullied" into releasing Mitchell Moses early from his current contract to join Parramatta unless they have a suitable replacement to fill his position straight away, according to Channel Nine commentator Phil Gould.

Moses recently signed a deal to join the Eels next season after the Tigers withdrew their offer to him to concentrate on re-signing captain Aaron Woods and fullback James Tedesco, but there is ongoing speculation he could be released early if the clubs can reach a mutual beneficial arrangement.

Speaking to fellow Channel Nine commentator James Bracey on his "Six Tackles with Gus" podcast for 9Podcasts, Gould said The Tigers needed to take a string stand on the issue for the sake of their fans, their member and their sponsors.

Any early move is not expected to happen until after Parramatta hosts the Tigers at ANZ Stadium on Easter Monday but Gould maintained he would not release Moses until after the season.

"I'm not letting him go until after grand final day," Gould said.

"That's it. He's playing with us, if he's signed with Parramatta next year we can't do much about that but he plays out the year with us. "I don't see any reason to disrupt your whole club right at this time unless you've got a better option available to you straight away, and I don't see a better option for Wests Tigers right at the moment.

"The Wests Tigers, if they play to their ability, are a competitive football team, we saw that again the other night, they've now got a new coach. "I think we've got to get less lenient on these types of requests and I think Wests Tigers have got to stand strong. I don't know if they will, they might let him go. "Maybe they think if they let him go they save a few hundred thousand this year, we can offer that to Aaron Woods and Tedesco early to upgrade this year's deal which other clubs can't do. "That's a decision for them but for the performance of the team, their sponsors, their fans, their members, Mitchell Moses should play out the year with the Wests Tigers."

Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/04/12/21/15/channel-nines-phil-gould-says-wests-tigers-shouldnt-be-bullied-into-releasing-mitchell-moses#vPsMl26wTGb4ujJX.99
 
Yeah Moses playing a dangerous game if he's really trying to talk Nofoaluma into leaving. Nofoaluma might have got Mitch into trouble. Really silly comment by David all things considered.

I think it might be time for Ivan to media gag the squad. This is becoming silly.
 
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“I’ve spoken with him (Arthur) and we’ve had a few talks,’’ Nofoaluma said.

“There are a lot of positive things that you hear from him and Mitch has told me the same thing.

So Mitch is trying to talk his mates over to Parra as well. Sigh!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-flyer-david-nofoaluma-has-met-with-parramatta-eels-coach-brad-arthur/news-story/c41c5a8ebd9e25a1031ba438a0f23a24

White ant Moses already talking players to go to the club that rejected him.

Or just a quick and effective way for Nofo to bump up his asking price and put the pressure on WT?

His quoted saying Moses talking to him about parra which is wrong
 
The club needs to set a precedent here and make Moses stay for the whole year, whether that's in FG or languishing in reserve grade on the bench. People need to know that Wests Tigers won't give in easily to these type of requests. I mean he's one of our "marquee" players, it's ridiculous. Unless there is a huge benefit then he should stay, and if he keeps making comments like those to Nofa they should throw him in reserve grade and ban him from training with the main squad for the rest of the year.
 
How squirmy did you all get when Elias started talking up how Moses single handedly dismantled the Cowboys in every facet of the game because that's the professional man he is. Oh man I was squirming so hard. Get rid of the grub and his stupid uncle before I turn to permanent squirm.
 
Not that it would be intentional, but its probably a good thing that the club is ridding themselves of players with yesterdays heroes as relos like Siro and Elias. Hopefully the treatment the players have gotten will turn the ex players away from the club and they won't feel the need to critique us at every turn while still claiming to love the club.
 
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How squirmy did you all get when Elias started talking up how Moses single handedly dismantled the Cowboys in every facet of the game because that's the professional man he is. Oh man I was squirming so hard. Get rid of the grub and his stupid uncle before I turn to permanent squirm.

Benny is terribly embarrassing. He is so divisive! It's as if he gets some sort of sick pleasure out of watching the Tigers suffer.
I wish he wasn't on that show. Ruins it for me. Mind you Billy Moore isn't much better, but at least his drivel doesn't stir the pot for the Tigers.
Ikin is great and Kent is Kent, I suppose. Every other guest host isn't too bad (except Daley who is too vague and talks in cliches).

The only real crap pundits are Elias and Woods. Both of them leave a bad taste in my mouth every time they are on.

But I digress, back to the Moses bashing….
 
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I think in this thread and others there was some consternation around contracts and their validity.

The problem is that currently the NRL and Clubs do not have to honour contacts due to a clause which is in all contracts - Mutual Dissolution. Basically means if both parties can negotiate a mutually beneficial exit/solution then the contract can be voided or cancelled.

So, easy fix is to change the NRL contract to delete the Mutual Dissolution Clause and therefore the player is bound to the club for the entirety of said contract, regardless of any fallout, dummy spit, being poach for future seasons etc.

Wont happen because as much as we bleat about player loyalty, the clubs also want to have the "option" of moving a player on if a positive business opportunity presents itself.

So, put up with the contracts not meaning to much at all at the end of the day.

No that wouldnt work. Courts would never force a person to provide services to another person if the parties are happy to part ways.

Contract law doesnt work the way you suggest.

There is no reason for a change. The system works fine. As disappointing as it when a player leaves mid season it is still up to the club to release the player. The club doesnt have to.

In this case, of we release him we obviously consider Moses present value isnt worth the space he would take up in the cap this year. That is, we see his value in the future but have always been prepared to pay him overs for the future return.

The system aint broke as annyoing it can feel at times.

Look at it this way…..you get a season membership and they make sure they get their money out of you straight up. If as a member I said I will pay you half for my membership, and if the season is a dud I'll just not bother about the second half the club would go beserk. They squeeze us fans for their cash who basically make the club what it is, so why is it so hard to make sure the players fulfill their obligations? If anything they owe us not the other way around.
 
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The club needs to set a precedent here and make Moses stay for the whole year, whether that's in FG or languishing in reserve grade on the bench. People need to know that Wests Tigers won't give in easily to these type of requests. I mean he's one of our "marquee" players, it's ridiculous. Unless there is a huge benefit then he should stay, and if he keeps making comments like those to Nofa they should throw him in reserve grade and ban him from training with the main squad for the rest of the year.

I'd normally agree but if we can lure another good young half to the club to replace Moses this year then we are better off moving him on.
 
Can you imagine family games night, playing monopoly with uncle benny and cousin uncle Isaac.

A lot of $1 developments and dodgy deals. Poor Mitch never had a chance!
 
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How squirmy did you all get when Elias started talking up how Moses single handedly dismantled the Cowboys in every facet of the game because that's the professional man he is. Oh man I was squirming so hard. Get rid of the grub and his stupid uncle before I turn to permanent squirm.

Benny night = turn the TV off or treat it like a horror comedy movie.
 
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