More Tigers problems

[Tim Sheens]

With Potter backing Robbie in this episode he can't be too roughened up over the incident. Maybe Mick had limitations compared to other coaches that Robbie had been under. Now with the coach and player compromising maybe it is time for the fans to do likewise and unite behind the Club.

A lot of us are behind the club BBF, some though are supporting Farah at the expense of the club. All this as (he possibly as well as) his minders have also got behind the club, but trying to ram us with unsavoury acts.

 

[stevetiger]

In all that time I have supported the team (now WestsTigers) and the players.
I can't recall ever barracking for the coach - which you obviously do in regards his treatment of Farah.
You are a DISGRACE to call one of the club's legends and Life Members a 'cancer'.
Where do you get off?

The comments directed towards Farah really amaze me. I just find it really out of line. I've also never been a Robbie fan but I can see how good he has been for the club.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Robbie had that same brilliant knack of Langer - the perfect in goal grubber kick and he tackled his heart out. They should off load any player who does not do their fair share of tackling - no matter who!

I can still see two good years in Robbie even if not capt so that path should not have been gone down even if the 4 year contract was a mistake. His injuries were not due to age or wear and tear so he can still be decent value for money.

Derogatory terms should not be used for the main actors in this drama because firstly they do not help or solve anything and secondly they can lead to libel action.

 

[batboy]

Thanks for clearing that up for me….

You've noted everything except why no other club wants the current NSW Origin on their books for free.... FREE!!
?????

I have also followed this club for a time, Probably not as long as you - But a time no less...
I have seen many a club legend come... And go - For one reason or another!!
I've not seen one of them carry themselves over the situation like this.

I'm not a supporter of the coach, I support the club and the players.
IN THAT ORDER!!
- My club decides my coach... I can live with that.

We have been abysmal for years... We've had 3.5/16 acceptable seasons (2009 we were a little unlucky). If nothing changes, We will be abysmal until the end of my days.
We are the only club in the NRL where the players seem to run the club.
We have complained about our walk up starters "In The Club" for years, despite form - That's now changing.

All this may be the wrong road, In 2 years we'll know...
All I know is the old way wasn't working - In Life, No Matter what you are doing if it's not working you need to try something new, You need to make changes, With change comes sacrifice.
At worst we'll be exactly where we have been for more than 80% of our existence....
Ending the season in August....

I will certainly find it easier supporting a losing team that is actually trying to change and trying to turn it around. Rather than one who runs out the same players in the same positions year after year with not a care in the world and no pressure on their position.

And for the record, I've personally achieved quite a few things in my years of note that have been recognised in more than one field. And I'm not done yet....
Who knows, Maybe this old keyboard here will make me a superstar!!

Furthermore, I've been in my Industries a lot longer than Robbie Farah has and I've NEVER been asked to look elsewhere.....

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The funny thing is I have followed this club since I was a kid in the early 60's.
My grandfather played for the Tigers in the thirties.
In all that time I have supported the team (now WestsTigers) and the players.
I can't recall ever barracking for the coach - which you obviously do in regards his treatment of Farah.
You are a DISGRACE to call one of the club's legends and Life Members a 'cancer'.
Where do you get off?
Get back behind your keyboard and dream that you could ever achieve anything that anyone might recognise.

You mad bro?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

In all that time I have supported the team (now WestsTigers) and the players.
I can't recall ever barracking for the coach - which you obviously do in regards his treatment of Farah.
You are a DISGRACE to call one of the club's legends and Life Members a 'cancer'.
Where do you get off?

The comments directed towards Farah really amaze me. I just find it really out of line. I've also never been a Robbie fan but I can see how good he has been for the club.

And the JT comments have been constructive without any pettiness whatsoever.

 

[851]

I'm not Taylor's biggest fan at all, but has he engaged in a smear campaign against Farah through the media?

Totally similar behaviour. :unamused:

I think for the club to move forward, both Farah and Taylor need to go.

Why does JT need to go?

Simple question.

If you think the players all love him then that is your opinion, he just wasted money on a 31 year old hooker with a serious knee injury, when we needed a centre or backrower.
His man management and people skills are almost zero, he picked all his coaches when he got here, we stunk, he fired all of them, he should have gone with them.
He is not a coach to attract talent to this club, he is just as much to blame for this Farah disaster as Robbie himself, his game plans caused unrest among the players, I really can not see an upside only our rehab got better.
How he could allow the threat of NSW cup on our club captain if he stayed is beyond me, even if he thought it, he should have been smart enough to not let that threat be made. He isn't smart enough, check out his record, the one day cricket affair and how could you forget being knocked out by his own player.
How about the interviews where JT said" you guys are just focusing on the competition table and results", what coach in their right mind say's this crap.
These are not traits of a good coach nor a coach I want at my club, he has shown he has no media skills and most of what he says is spin, veiled secrets or lies.

 

[boonboon]

I'm not Taylor's biggest fan at all, but has he engaged in a smear campaign against Farah through the media?

Totally similar behaviour. :unamused:

I think for the club to move forward, both Farah and Taylor need to go.

Why does JT need to go?

Simple question.

If you think the players all love him then that is your opinion, he just wasted money on a 31 year old hooker with a serious knee injury, when we needed a centre or backrower.
His man management and people skills are almost zero, he picked all his coaches when he got here, we stunk, he fired all of them, he should have gone with them.
He is not a coach to attract talent to this club, he is just as much to blame for this Farah disaster as Robbie himself, his game plans caused unrest among the players, I really can not see an upside only our rehab got better.
How he could allow the threat of NSW cup on our club captain if he stayed is beyond me, even if he thought it, he should have been smart enough to not let that threat be made. He isn't smart enough, check out his record, the one day cricket affair and how could you forget being knocked out by his own player.
How about the interviews where JT said" you guys are just focusing on the competition table and results", what coach in their right mind say's this crap.
These are not traits of a good coach nor a coach I want at my club, he has shown he has no media skills and most of what he says is spin, veiled secrets or lies.

It's like you live in your own little fantasy world with Buzz Rothfield

 

[851]

And you in yours with JT, two can play that game, what I have listed is not Rothfield, if you can't see it I am wasting my time, these are actual things your hero has done.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/taylor-made-coachs-career-highs-and-lows/2009/09/17/1252780409410.html
Read all of them at the link, this is but one.
January 1997 A beer-soaked Taylor is seen live on national television being escorted from the SCG for unruly behaviour during a cricket ODI. Taylor and several North Sydney teammates had been backing up from a buck's party the previous night and it is alleged some players urinated in cups and threw the contents over patrons during a Mexican wave. Taylor is axed as an Australia Day ambassador by Central Coast organisers.
Here is an article, not Rothfield from may 2015, interesting.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/05/27/major-problems-for-jason-taylor-and-the-wests-tigers/

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Thanks for clearing that up for me….

You've noted everything except why no other club wants the current NSW Origin on their books for free.... FREE!!
?????
.....

The release was left late in the season so mitigating circumstances there. Not for free at all or I would be shocked and disgusted with management if that was the case. And most importantly Farah has a contract and does not wish to move - that is his prerogative whilst he satisfies all aspects of his contract.

Someone here, a non fan of Robbie, stated that Robbie should not be playing about four positions - that sort of proves that Robbie was pulling his weight.

He is definitely a hands on captain so pulling his weight there as well - so all his detractors should get off his back.

I don't think we are doing the Club a favour by arguing about it forever.

 

[innsaneink]

Sort of proves?
LOL

Melbourne players always say how they "Know their role"…its a simple process that works, especially in a team environment.
When you have one bloke suddenly decides hes a hooker, lock, back row and 1st reciever...well its like someone on the road driving to their own rules...no one else knows what the hells going on.

 

[TYGA]

Sort of proves?
LOL

Melbourne players always say how they "Know their role"…its a simple process that works, especially in a team environment.
When you have one bloke suddenly decides hes a hooker, lock, back row and 1st reciever...well its like someone on the road driving to their own rules...no one else knows what the hells going on.

You are being loose with the truth. All Farah did last year was shovel the ball and make 40 tackles a game last year directly under taylor's instruction. Even Potter called out Taylor on this and stated taylor was misusing Farah. His season was poor as a result. He is the NSW hooker and one of NSW best the last 3 years. Its easy to kick a man when he is down injured and smashed by the media.

Its just straight up poor coaching why is this going missing. Big Bad Robbie is the cause of our problems give me a break. The squad hates taylor and its out of hand, he has lost the locker room.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

And you in yours with JT, two can play that game, what I have listed is not Rothfield, if you can't see it I am wasting my time, these are actual things your hero has done.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/taylor-made-coachs-career-highs-and-lows/2009/09/17/1252780409410.html
Read all of them at the link, this is but one.
January 1997 A beer-soaked Taylor is seen live on national television being escorted from the SCG for unruly behaviour during a cricket ODI. Taylor and several North Sydney teammates had been backing up from a buck's party the previous night and it is alleged some players urinated in cups and threw the contents over patrons during a Mexican wave. Taylor is axed as an Australia Day ambassador by Central Coast organisers.
Here is an article, not Rothfield from may 2015, interesting.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/05/27/major-problems-for-jason-taylor-and-the-wests-tigers/

Dragging up things he did 20 yrs ago, you must be desperate. Why don't you get dirt from his primary school teachers while you're at it.

 

[Geo]

Which locker room …we have had a few divided one's over the years...

Woods, Dene Halatau, Micheal Chee-Kam, Justin Hunt have all had praise for the Coaching staff and the start to pre-season...

I guess it's easy to sat the squad hates Taylor.....

 

[851]

And you in yours with JT, two can play that game, what I have listed is not Rothfield, if you can't see it I am wasting my time, these are actual things your hero has done.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/taylor-made-coachs-career-highs-and-lows/2009/09/17/1252780409410.html
Read all of them at the link, this is but one.
January 1997 A beer-soaked Taylor is seen live on national television being escorted from the SCG for unruly behaviour during a cricket ODI. Taylor and several North Sydney teammates had been backing up from a buck's party the previous night and it is alleged some players urinated in cups and threw the contents over patrons during a Mexican wave. Taylor is axed as an Australia Day ambassador by Central Coast organisers.
Here is an article, not Rothfield from may 2015, interesting.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/05/27/major-problems-for-jason-taylor-and-the-wests-tigers/

Dragging up things he did 20 yrs ago, you must be desperate. Why don't you get dirt from his primary school teachers while you're at it.

He wanted facts I gave him facts, you my friend are far more childish and petty than you try make me out to be, they are FACTS FACTS FACTS get it through your head.
It might have started in the early 1990's at wests, continued on at norths where he was instrumental in getting his coach on the outer with the board, but his troubles have continued all throughout his career, he hasn't changed to much at all.
What he done as a player at wests and norths to Ryan and Louis is exactly what Farah is doing to him now, it is hypocrytical of him to try and punt Farah for doing something he done his whole career.
Whilst I think Farah should go now, Taylor should follow him out the door.

 

[batboy]

The difference between Farah and Taylor - Is that if Taylor doesn't perform… He is gone, No Question. The coach always goes...

When Farah doesn't perform, He gets a 4 yr contract extension.... Smiles, And collects his pay check every month - Waiting for Origin to come around again.

 

[innsaneink]

Sort of proves?
LOL

Melbourne players always say how they "Know their role"…its a simple process that works, especially in a team environment.
When you have one bloke suddenly decides hes a hooker, lock, back row and 1st reciever...well its like someone on the road driving to their own rules...no one else knows what the hells going on.

You are being loose with the truth. All Farah did last year was shovel the ball and make 40 tackles a game last year directly under taylor's instruction. Even Potter called out Taylor on this and stated taylor was misusing Farah. His season was poor as a result. He is the NSW hooker and one of NSW best the last 3 years. Its easy to kick a man when he is down injured and smashed by the media.

Its just straight up poor coaching why is this going missing. Big Bad Robbie is the cause of our problems give me a break. The squad hates taylor and its out of hand, he has lost the locker room.

Replying to BBF. I didnt say this was how he was this year, yeh he took a back seat. But dont tell me you havent seen him take on too much in the past…because youd be loose with the truth.

 

[851]

The difference between Farah and Taylor - Is that if Taylor doesn't perform… He is gone, No Question. The coach always goes...

When Farah doesn't perform, He gets a 4 yr contract extension.... Smiles, And collects his pay check every month - Waiting for Origin to come around again.

Whilst giving him a 4 year contract extension was poor form, Taylor seems to be riding above the law of results.
But the irony of Taylor kicking up a stink about Farah when he done the same to Ryan and Louis when he was playing is laughable.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-coach-mick-potter-unlikely-to-be-worried-by-nrl-ruling-on-young-gun-luke-brooks/story-fni3fbgz-1226704570897
2\. WHAT is it about football players in Canberra? Just because their clubs are based in the national capital they seem to think they are part of a democratic system.

First it was senior players at the ACT Brumbies rugby side calling a leadership spill and voting out coach David Nucifora (who then proved their genius by taking them to the Super 14 title).

In three years under their chosen replacement, Laurie Fisher, the Brumbies failed to make the finals. Now we have Canberra Raiders players Terry Campese and Brett White admitting they forced the double dissolution that led to the sacking of David Furner.

If they are fair dinkum about getting into politics maybe the players down that way should take heed of the words of philosopher George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

The most notable example of a senior NRL player leading a coup against his coach was Jason Taylor knifing Peter Louis at the North Sydney Bears – and look where they are now.

 

[Telltails]

' For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" …. Newtons ( the physicist) third law. Reminds me of this discussion.

 

[batboy]

Like I said, If Taylor doesn't get results he will ride the lightning - And it will be the end of his career…
Players don't get results and they're untouchable..... At our club they are anyway!!