MOYLAN MAYBE RELEASED ..

[vlad]


is this an omen ?

 

[Oggyz]

Was it the 440?

 

[Tacky]

No inside info or anything but, I'm not giving us a chance to get Moylan. Lolo deserves a year at fullback and if he doesn't kick on, then we'll go back into the market for a fullback. Besides that, I just don't see Moylan fitting into next years team or Penrith releasing him without compensation.

 

[The-moP]

form the DT
MATT Moylan has been linked to a blockbuster swap with Cronulla’s James Maloney after reportedly falling out with Penrith coach Anthony Griffin ahead of the NRL finals.

The Panthers’ premiership push was rocked days before their opening knockout final by news their embattled skipper would likely miss the entire finals campaign after seeking professional help.

KENT: The bake that saw Griffin lose Moylan

BULLDOG: Why Moylan was right to walk away from finals

HARD-LINE: Moylan not the only Panther grumpy under Griffin

Penrith boss Phil Gould was adamant on Monday the star pivot would remain at the club long term despite granting Moylan indefinite leave to deal with personal issues ahead of Saturday night’s elimination final against Manly. But Moylan has already been linked to a Sharks move in what would be a direct swap with Cronulla’s NSW playmaker Maloney.
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Matt Moylan’s future at the Panthers is uncertain.
Gould stressed on Monday that Moylan’s working relationship with Griffin had not broken down but ex-Test flyer Anthony Minichiello expected the Penrith captain to walk.

“What I am hearing is that he and the coach don’t see eye-to-eye which is not a good sign,” Minichiello told Fox Sports’ NRL Tonight.

“You’d think they would be able to work through that during the season but what I am hearing is that isn’t happening.

“What does that mean? I think Matt Moylan will head to another club next year.”

There were reports Moylan had fallen out with Griffin as far back as last season.
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Minichiello said NRL rivals would be rubbing their hands over the prospect of signing Moylan.

“He’s a great fullback and probably played even better at five-eighth,” he said. “I think clubs will be lining up to take him.”
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Former Test backrower Nathan Hindmarsh believed Moylan’s absence would derail Penrith’s finals push.

“It’s a massive blow,” he told Fox Sports’ Monday Night with Matty Johns. “It’s not going to help their chances too much because he is such an important part of that side.

“If they are to go deep into the finals they need Matty Moylan in the side.”

How about we give Reynolds to Penrith, and they give us Moylan .. ??

 

[earl]

How about we give Reynolds to Penrith, and they give us Moylan .. ??

That is a good idea.

 

[greatodensraven]

Whether Moylan signs with us or not, nobody should be guaranteed any position.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Was it the 440?

2040
And 2560

 

[TYGA]

Moylans wants more than his 700k per season which rules a move to the Tigers as out of the question.
The way I see it is if the Sharks want him they will get him as they will release Maloney to the Knights so he can collect his cash. Manly could do the same with Blake Green. Titans are rumoured to be looking at Garth Brennan assistant coach at Panthers who could afford him also. We are no chance and should stay out of an overpriced underperforming player who has had plenty of time to shine.

 

[Guest]

If he goes, it is pretty obvious he will wind up at the Sharks.

I don't think its obvious at all. The Tigers are a huge chance of getting Moylan.
As for this so called swap of Maloney for Moylan, can't see it happening.
Maloney is 32 in 2018, he is going to want minimum 3 year deal on as much if not more than Moylan's presently on, not gunna happen.
Panther's HAVE CAP PROBLEMS, there is no way you can sign a complete roster of young up and coming players unless they are all on huge back- ended deals.
Panther's first priority is to upgrade contracts of Dylan Edwards and Tyrone May, there goes Moylan's money.
There is this absurd notion that because Maloney and Moylan have the same manager that the Sharks have the inside running.
Ivan gave Moylan his start in the NRL, they had and still have an excellent relationship, he is good mates with Nathan, if our offer is close to other club's, we're in this up to our ears.
In fact I think the Tigers will get him, and he would be a great signing.
Moylan's not the problem Griffin is, and Gould is the creator of the problem, the sacking of Ivan was always going to comeback and bite Gould BIGTIME.

The Tigers have 2 chances of getting Moylan, buckleys and stuff all.

 

[stryker]

I find it hard to believe he would be granted leave for the finals series if he was staying.

you might find it hard to believe,however ,he has injury problems and personal issues to sort out…it doesn't matter what money he is on he has to be given every opportunity to sort his life out...isn't that what the WTs do...beyond blue for instance..his own well being is paramount...speculate all you like..well done Panthers..to take a persons well being ahead of finals glory is a huge plus for the club...

This is not a new issue. If he is struggling with depression, why was he made to do media commitments on the Footy Show? And why wasn't he granted leave earlier? This creates more questions than answers.

Unfortunately we do not know the deep effects Moylan maybe suffering,we should let Gould and co sort the mess out…it really isn't our problem to be honest...

Jesus you are guillable TT.
The spoilt brat wants more money and Gus has moved him and his request to the backburner until the finals series is over.
The amount of people claiming depression these days is outrageous. Its mostly snowflakes chucking a tantrum when life gives them a curve ball.

 

[hugh1954]

Please no more spoilt brats wanting more and more money and leaving if they cant change their contract. Just the type of player we don't want Captain who is stood down for disciplinary actions and cracked the shits. Give us a break Please

 

[hobbo]

Straight swap with Maloney is what's being mentioned

 

[dazza65]

you might find it hard to believe,however ,he has injury problems and personal issues to sort out…it doesn't matter what money he is on he has to be given every opportunity to sort his life out...isn't that what the WTs do...beyond blue for instance..his own well being is paramount...speculate all you like..well done Panthers..to take a persons well being ahead of finals glory is a huge plus for the club...

This is not a new issue. If he is struggling with depression, why was he made to do media commitments on the Footy Show? And why wasn't he granted leave earlier? This creates more questions than answers.

Unfortunately we do not know the deep effects Moylan maybe suffering,we should let Gould and co sort the mess out…it really isn't our problem to be honest...

Jesus you are guillable TT.
The spoilt brat wants more money and Gus has moved him and his request to the backburner until the finals series is over.
The amount of people claiming depression these days is outrageous. Its mostly snowflakes chucking a tantrum when life gives them a curve ball.

Agree 100% Stryker, 100%

 

[Tiger_Steve]

If you believe the press he is a lazy trainer and cuts corners. He gets away with it due to raw talent. IF this is true, we really don't want him. Also, I like the idea of a top 30 where the gap between the best and worst player is small. No stars with huge egos!

 

[jirskyr]

This is not a new issue. If he is struggling with depression, why was he made to do media commitments on the Footy Show? And why wasn't he granted leave earlier? This creates more questions than answers.

Unfortunately we do not know the deep effects Moylan maybe suffering,we should let Gould and co sort the mess out…it really isn't our problem to be honest...

Jesus you are guillable TT.
The spoilt brat wants more money and Gus has moved him and his request to the backburner until the finals series is over.
The amount of people claiming depression these days is outrageous. Its mostly snowflakes chucking a tantrum when life gives them a curve ball.

Agree 100% Stryker, 100%

I'd be really careful about that, we don't know what is truly going on. Especially to say that when one of our own players committed suicide, I would avoid making accusations about other people's apparent or not mental health. We just don't really know.

On the other hand if he has issues and needs time to deal with them, I don't think Tigers are desperate enough to want to get involved with that. It's like with Foran, the guy has had personal problems and he needed to be able to get his head straight, but he's also on to his 3rd club in 3 seasons.

 

[vlad]

Straight swap with Maloney is what's being mentioned

Maloney wants more $$ . A straight swap doesn't achieve that . Would cost him more in tolls & fuel too .

 

[TrueTiger]

you might find it hard to believe,however ,he has injury problems and personal issues to sort out…it doesn't matter what money he is on he has to be given every opportunity to sort his life out...isn't that what the WTs do...beyond blue for instance..his own well being is paramount...speculate all you like..well done Panthers..to take a persons well being ahead of finals glory is a huge plus for the club...

This is not a new issue. If he is struggling with depression, why was he made to do media commitments on the Footy Show? And why wasn't he granted leave earlier? This creates more questions than answers.

Unfortunately we do not know the deep effects Moylan maybe suffering,we should let Gould and co sort the mess out…it really isn't our problem to be honest...

Jesus you are guillable TT.
The spoilt brat wants more money and Gus has moved him and his request to the backburner until the finals series is over.
The amount of people claiming depression these days is outrageous. Its mostly snowflakes chucking a tantrum when life gives them a curve ball.

Not gullible Stryker,just take things for what they are,he has personal issues I have heard,I'm not privy to any of the Panthers inner sanctum,but if he does have these problems then they should be dealt with accordingly,if Gould and co use this as an excuse for their own satisfaction then they are lower than a snakes belly…these sort of things should not be taken lightly or used to benefit themselves financially or Moylans benefit....suicide and depression have been the cause of fine young people ending life far early than needed,help is only a call away,there are more things to life than trying to use illness as an excuse to better yourself..

 

[Toowoomba_Tiger]

I want him.
I'm not convinced with Tui at fullback, albeit I have never seen him play there.
I would prefer a proven fullback like Moylan.
I'm also not convinced with Reynolds at 5/8th.

I would love to start the season with
1\. Moylan
6\. Tui
7\. Brooks
9\. Reynolds

14\. Liddle

Not sure Liddle is ready to play 80 mins and Reynolds would offer more at 9 than Matty Mac.
I think we might get more long term value out of Reynolds only playing 50 mins and preserving him a bit.
I think the big minutes Eiso can play justifies carrying a second hooker on the bench, depending on minutes we get from Matulino and Packer.

 

[2041]

If you believe the press he is a lazy trainer and cuts corners. He gets away with it due to raw talent. IF this is true, we really don't want him. Also, I like the idea of a top 30 where the gap between the best and worst player is small. No stars with huge egos!

Wasn't that pretty much the same info as we heard about Lolohea before he signed? I mean, line him up next to Moylan and ask someone who doesn't know anything about either of them which one's less committed to his training and 95% would guess Lolo…

Teams that win *always* accommodate star players. The idea you can put together a top 30 of identically talented, hard working pros with no egos and no man management required at all is a fantasy. To win you need outstanding talent, and sometimes outstanding talent needs careful handling.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

I disagree to a point. The outstanding talent also needs to fit into a culture and team environment. Letting the team star get away with poor behaviour/attitude/training sends bad message to the rest of the group. Look at Titans. We tried accommodating stars, look what happened. Storm have stars and are successful because the stars drive the positive culture. They don't work against it. Personally I'm happy with our new roster. Hopefully it's full of first grade standard talent with a common goal of working hard together to win games.