NRL. Anti-Vaxers..

[philgood]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

 

[Tim Sheens]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

Thinking that only one from another planet or stuck inside a bubble down a long rabbit hole would believe as such.

 

[philgood]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

Thinking that only one from another planet or stuck inside a bubble down a long rabbit hole would believe as such.

This is fact. Emergency use authorisation was allowed on basis that there are no early treatments. But whatever helps you to sleep better at night.

 

[jirskyr]


Aaahh good old Novaxx. Almost as bad as Domicron Perrotet

i was surprised they gave him the all clear in the first place
btw djokovic had covid twice and hes still mostly unbeatable and hes 35 :O

I was thinking about this. Since he has had it twice he is probably as immune to getting it as any I doubly vaxxed person.

****Here is the thing though. The unvaxxed are causing about 1/2 the case load in hospitals and those people are 5% of the population. So those 5% are causing 1/2 the work for society in relation to COVID.****

Novak and his family appear as sane as the anti-vaxxers on here:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaTbydOPBmU

They are a loud obnoxious uneducated drain on society. I don't see why we should play their games.

can u link me to where it says this ???? i cant find any figures on whos the ones dying in the hospital if there vaxed or un-vaxed

Here: https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/critical-intelligence-unit

Under "risk monitoring dashboard" (summary) and "COVID monitor' for the daily snapshot.

 

[jirskyr]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

I'm confused - why would the FDA not allow early treatment of COVID? If such a remedy existed and reduced the need for vaccines, that's just fine, no reason not to approve it?

 

[BZN]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".

Do u feel better now that you can spell?

What else we using to deal with the virus? Dont say social distancing, masks etc

Social distancing, masks etc.

Self isolation for positive cases and close contacts.
Critical access restrictions for hospitals, aged care, other vulnerable locations.
Previous restrictions on unvaccinated and ongoing restrictions on their travel.
Specialised COVID units within hospitals and rapid in-hospital testing to identify and isolate positive cases at admission.
Experienced COVID care response for positive serious cases including oxygen support, extra ventilators, antivirals, dex etc.
Free PCR tests for all suspected cases.

Imperfect but an advanced strategy compared to January 2020.

You previously advocated early-administration [censored] - you lose all credibility as soon as you say that.

edit: don't know why ivrmctn was censored, so here it is [sic]

Thanks for highlighting my point so succinctly. There is no treatment for covid until you have deteriorated enough, that you cannot breathe, and your lungs are damaged. Then you are asked to go to hospital to be put on a ventilator. Instead of treating Covid EARLY SO PEOPLE DO NOT NEED HOSPITALS! Thanks again.

You can’t treat it early … no matter what dribble you read.
If you could I would be taking it right now.
I’m sitting here suffering from Covid, not long after beating throat cancer, with a vastly depleted immune system.
If I had not had both jabs (was due for a booster next week) I imagine I’d be back in hospital fighting for my life again right now.
Instead I’m almost happy I have caught it … to help make my immunity to it even stronger.

We sometimes butt heads on the odd topic, particularly Brooks, though as I wrote during the kerfuffle here a little while back, many of us know a little and more about each other in this forum community.

As such, wishing you a speedy recovery from it CK, especially considering your throat issue, of which I was previously unaware. Not good for a decent chunk of our community, though for most the Omicron strain is still a much better alternative than that of Delta, so good luck to all.

Thanks FG.
Doubt we'll ever agree on Brooksy but, in reality, these are pretty trivial issues.
To be honest I didn't think of Brooks once while getting blasted with radiation and pumped with chemo lol
Anyways ... we are a forum of blokes and ladies who will never agree on everything.
We are a family that follows the Tigers, and like most families, there will be times when we bicker or anger each other with our ideas.
In the end we all cheer for our team as a unit no matter our differences.
Thanks for the kind words ... much appreciated after being to hell and back.

Very bloomin well done @cktiger for fighting your way back from throat cancer.
I certainly know what you have been thru re the chemo and ray treatment.
I shared the chemo/ray treatment journey with a very close friend of mine who had a similar cancer to yours.
My friend then had to have an horrendous operation to remove the remaining cancer, but it had gone to far and never recovered from the operation passing away a short time later.
So keep fighting the good fight for a cancer free future.
And dont forget the good times for Wests Tigers supporters are just around the corner and none of us want to miss that...we've been waiting tooo darn long already.

 

[BZN]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".

Do u feel better now that you can spell?

What else we using to deal with the virus? Dont say social distancing, masks etc

Social distancing, masks etc.

Self isolation for positive cases and close contacts.
Critical access restrictions for hospitals, aged care, other vulnerable locations.
Previous restrictions on unvaccinated and ongoing restrictions on their travel.
Specialised COVID units within hospitals and rapid in-hospital testing to identify and isolate positive cases at admission.
Experienced COVID care response for positive serious cases including oxygen support, extra ventilators, antivirals, dex etc.
Free PCR tests for all suspected cases.

Imperfect but an advanced strategy compared to January 2020.

You previously advocated early-administration [censored] - you lose all credibility as soon as you say that.

edit: don't know why ivrmctn was censored, so here it is [sic]

Thanks for highlighting my point so succinctly. There is no treatment for covid until you have deteriorated enough, that you cannot breathe, and your lungs are damaged. Then you are asked to go to hospital to be put on a ventilator. Instead of treating Covid EARLY SO PEOPLE DO NOT NEED HOSPITALS! Thanks again.

You can’t treat it early … no matter what dribble you read.
If you could I would be taking it right now.
I’m sitting here suffering from Covid, not long after beating throat cancer, with a vastly depleted immune system.
If I had not had both jabs (was due for a booster next week) I imagine I’d be back in hospital fighting for my life again right now.
Instead I’m almost happy I have caught it … to help make my immunity to it even stronger.

Overwhelming evidence that ivrmectin and hydroxychloroquin (amongst many other drugs) treat it early. Esteemed doctors like Dr Zelenko, Peter Mcullogh, Dr Scott Jensen amonst a host of others treated thousands of patients during the first outbreak in 2020 with overwhelming success.

To quote Phil Gould: no no no no no.

I'll never understand why anti-vaxxers will do anything in the world to avoid a shot, but they'll advocate taking horse medicine. It's madness in a bottle.

If [censored] worked it would be submitted to the health authorities and approved, especially if/because it's low cost and readily producible. There isn't a pharma company on Earth that would not request authorisation if their drug worked.

Not approved by FDA (US), not TGA (Australia), not EMA (Europe), not WHO. Nobody.

The day it is proven to work, it would be approved.

Read these:
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-[censored]-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/eX3LD
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/treatments
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-[censored]-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

Peter McCullough is a cardiologist, not an infectious disease expert or respiratory physician.
Dr Zelenko is a GP from a Jewish village in New York state.
Dr Jensen is a GP and former Minnesota Republican Senator who is seeking re-election this year.

Even if we take your 3 quacks as being, somehow, front-running experts in their fields (which they are not), that's 3 people... no, let's take all your quacks, say it's 100 of them... 100 proponents of malaria and parasite drugs for COVID vs the established scientific and medical profession of hundreds of thousands, including all global regulatory bodies responsible for review and approval of medications.

Like I said, the day these things are clearly proven safe and effective, you know, like the vaccines are, they can be submitted and approved by the reg bodies, then your doctor can prescribe his brains out.

The voice of reason and common sense.
Very well said @jirskyr
I just wish more on here would take your advice.
I called in to my friendly local GP in Nabiac on Monday to get my 75th birthday drivers licence renewal medical cert signed and while there asked if I could book in for my booster covid jab.
Sorry...no can do as we dont have any in the fridge so ring back on Friday. So I rang today and got an appt for 1st Feb which is only a few days short of 6 months since my last/2nd jab.
Scumo told us it 'isn't a race' to get vaxd. Yeh righto!
What sort of a dumb cluck is this bloke?

 

[earl]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

I'm confused - why would the FDA not allow early treatment of COVID? If such a remedy existed and reduced the need for vaccines, that's just fine, no reason not to approve it?

I can explain this to you.

5% of the state are unvaxxed and these mental geniuses and freedom fighters are contributing about 1/2 of the patients in ICU.

So these mental geniuses see things that the rest of us don't. Just like people with severe mental illnesses or people who are members of doomday cults. Very very smart people.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

I'm confused - why would the FDA not allow early treatment of COVID? If such a remedy existed and reduced the need for vaccines, that's just fine, no reason not to approve it?

I can explain this to you.

5% of the state are unvaxxed and these mental geniuses and freedom fighters are contributing about 1/2 of the patients in ICU.

So these mental geniuses see things that the rest of us don't. Just like people with severe mental illnesses or people who are members of doomday cults. Very very smart people.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/19e542fd-968f-4c0e-b9cd-499202526092

1000 geniuses or people working for NSW Health with mentally illnesses. You really are a naive little boy @Earl

 

[paul wright]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

I'm confused - why would the FDA not allow early treatment of COVID? If such a remedy existed and reduced the need for vaccines, that's just fine, no reason not to approve it?

I can explain this to you.

5% of the state are unvaxxed and these mental geniuses and freedom fighters are contributing about 1/2 of the patients in ICU.

So these mental geniuses see things that the rest of us don't. Just like people with severe mental illnesses or people who are members of doomday cults. Very very smart people.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/19e542fd-968f-4c0e-b9cd-499202526092

1000 geniuses or people working for NSW Health with mentally illnesses. You really are a naive little boy @Earl

Spreading your usual manure i see,give my regards to Q

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

I'm confused - why would the FDA not allow early treatment of COVID? If such a remedy existed and reduced the need for vaccines, that's just fine, no reason not to approve it?

I can explain this to you.

5% of the state are unvaxxed and these mental geniuses and freedom fighters are contributing about 1/2 of the patients in ICU.

So these mental geniuses see things that the rest of us don't. Just like people with severe mental illnesses or people who are members of doomday cults. Very very smart people.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/19e542fd-968f-4c0e-b9cd-499202526092

1000 geniuses or people working for NSW Health with mentally illnesses. You really are a naive little boy @Earl


Spreading your usual manure i see,give my regards to Q

It’s facts in an article. Not manure. Anyway mate, you keep jabbing yourself year after year. Not my problem.

 

[innsaneink]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.


So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

Haha you're funny. You develop drugs for a living do you? Then you would know that the FDA would never allow early treatment of covid. Thats because the emergency use authorisation for the vaccines were predicated on the basis that there are no early treatments!

I'm confused - why would the FDA not allow early treatment of COVID? If such a remedy existed and reduced the need for vaccines, that's just fine, no reason not to approve it?

I can explain this to you.

5% of the state are unvaxxed and these mental geniuses and freedom fighters are contributing about 1/2 of the patients in ICU.

So these mental geniuses see things that the rest of us don't. Just like people with severe mental illnesses or people who are members of doomday cults. Very very smart people.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/19e542fd-968f-4c0e-b9cd-499202526092

1000 geniuses or people working for NSW Health with mentally illnesses. You really are a naive little boy @Earl

About 0.06%....half those admin etc non clinical....
Much less the the general population

 

[earl]

About 0.06%…half those admin etc non clinical…

Geez that sounds significantly less than the 5% of the population who aren't vaccinated. It's almost like as an industry health care workers recognize the importance of being vaccinated.

I'm astounded that there is yet another stupid anti-vaxxer statistic that makes no sense. It reminds me of a story my dad told me when he was a trainee doctor dealing with schizophrenic patients and their crazy stories. The best way to handle it is to laugh.

 

[BZN]

The endless changes and mis-truths are the main reason I chose not to get vaxxed.
So, do you recognise that vaccinated people are catching and spreading this latest variant ? . . . or do you think that the thousands of cases every day are all unvaxxed ?


Off course people who are vaxxed can catch and spread it but it is far less likely than someone who is unvaxxed.Some people are trying their best to reduce the chances of catching and spreading it to vulnerable people.

So Paul, if it is far less likely . . . . how do we have the astronomical case numbers of the past few days ? Please don't tell me that the 6% not vaxxed are responsible for these many thousands of new cases.
The "far less likely" spiel may well have held more credence for first wave covid, but the numbers suggest it's not so much the case for this new variant.
Hospitalisation is also way down, yet people are deriving statistics to suit their cause.

It seems to me @Go_You_Good_Things you may be trivialising the numbers.
Google told me the population of NSW in 2020 was 8,166,369.
Now using your figures 6% of that is 489,992.
Again using your figures, If only 6% of them get Covid, that leaves 29,399 unvaxed or 'novaxed' to be spreading this insanely bad and debilitating virus.
The way things are going it would more likely to be 50% [or even higher] of the unvaxed come down with Covid.
So this then means approx 500,000 :angry: unvaxed to spread the virus to at least twice as many again.
I sincerely hope you 'dont' get Covid, but if you unfortunately do, please keep the WT Forum up to date with how you are coping.
Have a great day :relaxed:

 

[BZN]

When its 95% vaxxed to 5% unvaxxed there will be a greater number of vaxxed affected. But this will all be interpreted as it being a pandemic of the vaccinated.

[/QUOTE]

 

[BZN]

***Who else should we blame?***

The CCP?

[/QUOTE]

This is the 1st time I have seen a post from you in ages.

 

[BZN]

I used to hate the idea of 'letting it rip', but given how mild omacron seems to be I think that's our only choice. It's not sustainable to have half the country in isolation.

I crossed into Qld the day after the border was opened to people with a vax pass, to visit family.
Most people up there just love their Premier for keeping their state nearly Covid free for as long as she did.
After being in the habit of wearing a mask for so long I continued to do that when I was out and about amongst people, but 99% of Qlders weren't. They felt free and happy
Once entry to Qld was relaxed Covid numbers starting going up immediately.
With the border now being open to everyone, Covid is just as bad there now as anywhere.
It certainly seems eventual herd immunity is the only way for us to go, but many will die from Covid along the way.
A big majority will be from the old farts like me group and unfortunately those from the lower socio-economic groups, and imo the unvaxed.

 

[swag_tiger]

I used to hate the idea of 'letting it rip', but given how mild omacron seems to be I think that's our only choice. It's not sustainable to have half the country in isolation.

I crossed into Qld the day after the border was opened to people with a vax pass, to visit family.
Most people up there just love their Premier for keeping their state nearly Covid free for as long as she did.
After being in the habit of wearing a mask for so long I continued to do that when I was out and about amongst people, but 99% of Qlders weren't. They felt free and happy
Once entry to Qld was relaxed Covid numbers starting going up immediately.
With the border now being open to everyone, Covid is just as bad there now as anywhere.
It certainly seems eventual herd immunity is the only way for us to go, but many will die from Covid along the way.
A big majority will be from the old farts like me group and unfortunately those from the lower socio-economic groups, and imo the unvaxed.

The issue with that is when a new variant comes which is extremely likely to happen. The immunity to the old variant may not work. E.g. people who have caught Delta and still catching Omicron. Effectively making the immunity rule start from scratch.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I used to hate the idea of 'letting it rip', but given how mild omacron seems to be I think that's our only choice. It's not sustainable to have half the country in isolation.

I crossed into Qld the day after the border was opened to people with a vax pass, to visit family.
Most people up there just love their Premier for keeping their state nearly Covid free for as long as she did.
After being in the habit of wearing a mask for so long I continued to do that when I was out and about amongst people, but 99% of Qlders weren't. They felt free and happy
Once entry to Qld was relaxed Covid numbers starting going up immediately.
With the border now being open to everyone, Covid is just as bad there now as anywhere.
It certainly seems eventual herd immunity is the only way for us to go, but many will die from Covid along the way.
A big majority will be from the old farts like me group and unfortunately those from the lower socio-economic groups, and imo the unvaxed.

The issue with that is when a new variant comes which is extremely likely to happen. The immunity to the old variant may not work. E.g. people who have caught Delta and still catching Omicron. Effectively making the immunity rule start from scratch.

That’s not entirely true though . If the large portion of society are vaccinated , which they are , and the vaccinations are effective , then the virus by it’s very nature has no alternative but to mutate . But because of the vaccinations , it now evolves into a weaker strain .
Eg. Omnicron. It’s far weaker but way more contagious .
The real issue is the fascination with case numbers , and how we’ve all been trained to think this is a huge thing .
We are up around the 100-200k a day now in NSW (sorry those case numbers reported are straight bull crap) , and still low in deaths and ICU numbers .
I’ve had it . Just got over it . Gonna have a cough for months I think . But apart from a day with hot sweats , and a weeks worth of arguments with the family , it’s a bit of a non event .
I’m going to attribute that to the vaccine. I have to right ?
In my opinion , we all have to die of something , and regardless of your political stance on this , we can’t live in a bubble anymore.
Not can we wrap the ones we live in a bubble as well .
I’m not trying to lecture anyone , or anything , but whilst I vehemently disagree with the anti vax , I understand how they got there.
I used to climb towers for a living . And the reality is when your hanging there at 50m plus , you just have to forget about it , and get on with it .
I’d done my checks , had the right safety gear , so what else could I do ?
And to me that’s the key to all this . We do our checks , use the masks in small areas , wash up, get your vax , and that’s all you can do .
Living in fear is not living at all . .
Sorry about the rant .

 

[BZN]

I used to hate the idea of 'letting it rip', but given how mild omacron seems to be I think that's our only choice. It's not sustainable to have half the country in isolation.

I crossed into Qld the day after the border was opened to people with a vax pass, to visit family.
Most people up there just love their Premier for keeping their state nearly Covid free for as long as she did.
After being in the habit of wearing a mask for so long I continued to do that when I was out and about amongst people, but 99% of Qlders weren't. They felt free and happy
Once entry to Qld was relaxed Covid numbers starting going up immediately.
With the border now being open to everyone, Covid is just as bad there now as anywhere.
It certainly seems eventual herd immunity is the only way for us to go, but many will die from Covid along the way.
A big majority will be from the old farts like me group and unfortunately those from the lower socio-economic groups, and imo the unvaxed.

The issue with that is when a new variant comes which is extremely likely to happen. The immunity to the old variant may not work. E.g. people who have caught Delta and still catching Omicron. Effectively making the immunity rule start from scratch.

That’s not entirely true though . If the large portion of society are vaccinated , which they are , and the vaccinations are effective , then the virus by it’s very nature has no alternative but to mutate . But because of the vaccinations , it now evolves into a weaker strain .
Eg. Omnicron. It’s far weaker but way more contagious .
The real issue is the fascination with case numbers , and how we’ve all been trained to think this is a huge thing .
We are up around the 100-200k a day now in NSW (sorry those case numbers reported are straight bull crap) , and still low in deaths and ICU numbers .
I’ve had it . Just got over it . Gonna have a cough for months I think . But apart from a day with hot sweats , and a weeks worth of arguments with the family , it’s a bit of a non event .
I’m going to attribute that to the vaccine. I have to right ?
In my opinion , we all have to die of something , and regardless of your political stance on this , we can’t live in a bubble anymore.
Not can we wrap the ones we live in a bubble as well .
I’m not trying to lecture anyone , or anything , but whilst I vehemently disagree with the anti vax , I understand how they got there.
I used to climb towers for a living . And the reality is when your hanging there at 50m plus , you just have to forget about it , and get on with it .
I’d done my checks , had the right safety gear , so what else could I do ?
And to me that’s the key to all this . We do our checks , use the masks in small areas , wash up, get your vax , and that’s all you can do .
Living in fear is not living at all . .
Sorry about the rant .

Not a rant at all @Strongee
Your post was filled with common sense :+1: