OK let's be honest now

[barra]

3 tries in 3 games is a massive concern. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. And if you want to get real picky, the 3 tries we have scored all have had a slice of luck about them. Reynolds is a street fighter who is as tenacious as they come. But cand he improve the attack that much? I don’t know.

So what's the answer? It's not like we anyone in the club who is magically going to turn us into a try scoring machine. I think points will be hard to come by all season for one main reason - we lack genuine pace out wide, no one in our backline is going to burn the opposition on pure speed. Most our wins are going to come ugly.

I think the answer, as always, will be right in front of us. Play to our strength and at this point, it is a smart short kicking game and a lot of quality support chasing. We scored one through this last night, and narrowly missed another couple when beaten by the bounce.

At this stage, it's not our biggest strength it's probably our only strength!

 

[cqtiger]

I’m a happy little vegemite.

All I have ever asked from my team is to defend well. Now they do.

I thought last night that our bubble would burst, up against quick halves and very fast outside backs. I had thoughts of Roberts tearing us to shreds with his speed. Didn’t happen. Broncos didn’t even score a try.

I don’t know why people keep saying that we can’t keep this defense up all season. The Storm do. When was the last time a team went through a season undefeated? There will be losses, big losses, but each week you have to defend with intensity or you lose.

I’m loving it.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

3 tries in 3 games is a massive concern. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. And if you want to get real picky, the 3 tries we have scored all have had a slice of luck about them. Reynolds is a street fighter who is as tenacious as they come. But cand he improve the attack that much? I don’t know.

Cleary has already addressed the attack issue.

I believe that you were always banging on about the teams weak defence. Now that the defence is the best in the comp, you are banging on about their attack. Small steps.

Can you find it in yourself to give them SOME credit.

:blush: :blush: :blush:

The boys club will always find something to complain about. It must be hard for them to see more improvement in defence in 3 weeks than we did with JT in 3 years. We all know defence wins premierships. As long as we continue to defend like that and improve our attack each week then we will be fine. Go the mighty tigers.

It must be hard for you trying to find the smallest thing to be able to pick at and use that as an argument to say that I’m unhappy with the current coach or where the club is at. Give it up, it’s boring.

 

[barra]

**I think last night we saw a game plan to take the offloads up again yet another notch. However, it clearly failed due to dropped ball and the team had to readjust the game plan on the fly. At one stage we were barely completing 50%.**
Credit where it's due, we readjusted to a more solid, competitive plan in the second 40\. I hope we have another go at the more expansive game in better conditions, hopefully against parra as they might not number up as well against the offload as our last 3 opponents. Multiple phases, when executed better, will lead to lots of points, but very hard to play that way when you are gassed.

Rule #1 with off-loads… you must get a call from a support player first. Then you know someone is close and ready.

Last night we seemed to flip the ball back on hope - that's the mug's way of creating 2nd phase play.

I like that the off-loads are a big part of our play now, but they at least need to be a bit smart about it.

 

[05TIGZ]

3 tries in 3 games is a massive concern. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. And if you want to get real picky, the 3 tries we have scored all have had a slice of luck about them. Reynolds is a street fighter who is as tenacious as they come. But cand he improve the attack that much? I don’t know.

Cleary has already addressed the attack issue.

I believe that you were always banging on about the teams weak defence. Now that the defence is the best in the comp, you are banging on about their attack. Small steps.

Can you find it in yourself to give them SOME credit.

:blush: :blush: :blush:

The boys club will always find something to complain about. It must be hard for them to see more improvement in defence in 3 weeks than we did with JT in 3 years. We all know defence wins premierships. As long as we continue to defend like that and improve our attack each week then we will be fine. Go the mighty tigers.

It must be hard for you trying to find the smallest thing to be able to pick at and use that as an argument to say that I’m unhappy with the current coach or where the club is at. Give it up, it’s boring.

Mate I’m not the one harping on about our attack when we have 2 games, should have won a third and kept 3 premiership heavyweights to under 10 points each.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Cleary has already addressed the attack issue.

I believe that you were always banging on about the teams weak defence. Now that the defence is the best in the comp, you are banging on about their attack. Small steps.

Can you find it in yourself to give them SOME credit.

:blush: :blush: :blush:

The boys club will always find something to complain about. It must be hard for them to see more improvement in defence in 3 weeks than we did with JT in 3 years. We all know defence wins premierships. As long as we continue to defend like that and improve our attack each week then we will be fine. Go the mighty tigers.

It must be hard for you trying to find the smallest thing to be able to pick at and use that as an argument to say that I’m unhappy with the current coach or where the club is at. Give it up, it’s boring.

Mate I’m not the one harping on about our attack when we have 2 games, should have won a third and kept 3 premiership heavyweights to under 10 points each.

Give it a couple more losses and you might.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

As predicted, the 1 pico second attention crowd is in 'I've seen enough' mode. :bash
In reality we held 3 of the most fancy and rich teams to at worst a try a game, furthermore, these
teams regularly beat us with 30+ at their will, year after year, and we are 'not happy Jane'?
Please explain :bash

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As predicted, the 1 pico second attention crowd is in 'I've seen enough' mode. :bash
In reality we held 3 of the most fancy and rich teams to at worst a try a game, furthermore, these
teams regularly beat us with 30+ at their will, year after year, and we are 'not happy Jane'?
Please explain :bash

Tbf the only side out of those 3 who regularly gives it to us are the Roosters.

 

[Yossarian]

You are right, we have only scored 1 lucky try a game, other sides can score against these teams without much trouble

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

Looked perfectly executed to me. Though a more favourable bounce on other occasions would likely have yielded another two tries to Thompson.

Exactly. Brooks short kicking game was the most dangerous tactic from either side. Three genuine try scoring chances in a game that was 7-7 at full-time.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Felt that they were trying to build attack through offloads as against Melbourne but we made a lot of mistakes and a lot of passes hit the ground 1st half so they tightened up to stay in the game.

There still looking to develop teamwork in attack and when it comes with offloads the way we roll down field we will be potent.

But let's not forget there has been important positional changes early and while the guys have slotted in teamwork takes longer.

 

[05TIGZ]

The boys club will always find something to complain about. It must be hard for them to see more improvement in defence in 3 weeks than we did with JT in 3 years. We all know defence wins premierships. As long as we continue to defend like that and improve our attack each week then we will be fine. Go the mighty tigers.

It must be hard for you trying to find the smallest thing to be able to pick at and use that as an argument to say that I’m unhappy with the current coach or where the club is at. Give it up, it’s boring.

Mate I’m not the one harping on about our attack when we have 2 games, should have won a third and kept 3 premiership heavyweights to under 10 points each.

Give it a couple more losses and you might.

I’m enjoying now, and loving how we are playing as a team. You keep waiting for the future losses to back up your point. Some supporter you are.

 

[05TIGZ]

As predicted, the 1 pico second attention crowd is in 'I've seen enough' mode. :bash
In reality we held 3 of the most fancy and rich teams to at worst a try a game, furthermore, these
teams regularly beat us with 30+ at their will, year after year, and we are 'not happy Jane'?
Please explain :bash

Tbf the only side out of those 3 who regularly gives it to us are the Roosters.

Sorry the team hasn’t met your expectations in the opening 3 rounds. Maybe you should support the raiders. ThEy score plenty of points but don’t win games, remind me of the JT tigers lol lol.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It must be hard for you trying to find the smallest thing to be able to pick at and use that as an argument to say that I’m unhappy with the current coach or where the club is at. Give it up, it’s boring.

Mate I’m not the one harping on about our attack when we have 2 games, should have won a third and kept 3 premiership heavyweights to under 10 points each.

Give it a couple more losses and you might.

I’m enjoying now, and loving how we are playing as a team. You keep waiting for the future losses to back up your point. Some supporter you are.

Hope we don’t lose another game. No one is death riding Cleary, despite you wanting them too.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It must be hard for you trying to find the smallest thing to be able to pick at and use that as an argument to say that I’m unhappy with the current coach or where the club is at. Give it up, it’s boring.

Mate I’m not the one harping on about our attack when we have 2 games, should have won a third and kept 3 premiership heavyweights to under 10 points each.

Give it a couple more losses and you might.

I’m enjoying now, and loving how we are playing as a team. You keep waiting for the future losses to back up your point. Some supporter you are.

Idk how you come to that conclusion. Nothing wrong with talking about where we need to improve. Unless you think we don’t need to improve at all? I doubt that’s how Cleary would be feeling.

 

[05TIGZ]

I just don't get these threads right now.

We are defending like a Top 4 side, defending against literally the Top 3 sides from 2017, conceding only 2 tries in 240 minutes, but the attack is apparently a massive issue. Are you giving any thought to how much effort / energy is being spent in making this defence happen and how the attack might be somewhat relegated?

We literally undergo an amazing transformation in 3 months from brittle side to amazingly tough side, and you take that with open arms, then complain that the attack isn't threatening enough. The attack against the Top 3 sides!!!!

Two better bounces of the ball and Corey Thompson scores of kicks twice. A little bit better handling and maybe Aloiai and Lawrence break the line also.

It wasn't pretty last night but I've watched a lot of sides play ugly football in the first 3 rounds, and Roosters, Storm and Broncos also struggled in attack against us.

Let's at least play one of the lesser defending sides before we wrist-slit over the current non-first-choice combination of Thompson-Benji-Brooks-McIlwrick. Not even Liddle or Tui or Reynolds in the side, who we would have started if we had the choice.

AND

We have 90 seconds to go, down by 1, we win a short kickoff, move to the posts and slot an equaliser, in literally 90 seconds… when has a Tigers attack ever had such composure? When have the Tigers defended against the best sides for 80 mins then hold composure, 3 weeks running, to take the winning or equalising play at the death?

I don't recognise this side at all, but it's the best team I've seen run out for us since 2011\. They don't attack like 2011 but we just don't have that cattle. They also don't defend like 2011, which was part of the reason we didn't make the GF either of those years.

Madness, we've not even been headed at FT in 3 weeks.

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[trumper]

I just don't get these threads right now.

We are defending like a Top 4 side, defending against literally the Top 3 sides from 2017, conceding only 2 tries in 240 minutes, but the attack is apparently a massive issue. Are you giving any thought to how much effort / energy is being spent in making this defence happen and how the attack might be somewhat relegated?

We literally undergo an amazing transformation in 3 months from brittle side to amazingly tough side, and you take that with open arms, then complain that the attack isn't threatening enough. The attack against the Top 3 sides!!!!

Two better bounces of the ball and Corey Thompson scores of kicks twice. A little bit better handling and maybe Aloiai and Lawrence break the line also.

It wasn't pretty last night but I've watched a lot of sides play ugly football in the first 3 rounds, and Roosters, Storm and Broncos also struggled in attack against us.

Let's at least play one of the lesser defending sides before we wrist-slit over the current non-first-choice combination of Thompson-Benji-Brooks-McIlwrick. Not even Liddle or Tui or Reynolds in the side, who we would have started if we had the choice.

AND

We have 90 seconds to go, down by 1, we win a short kickoff, move to the posts and slot an equaliser, in literally 90 seconds… when has a Tigers attack ever had such composure? When have the Tigers defended against the best sides for 80 mins then hold composure, 3 weeks running, to take the winning or equalising play at the death?

I don't recognise this side at all, but it's the best team I've seen run out for us since 2011\. They don't attack like 2011 but we just don't have that cattle. They also don't defend like 2011, which was part of the reason we didn't make the GF either of those years.

Madness, we've not even been headed at FT in 3 weeks.

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It's merely academic the number of points the team scores, so long as that number is at least one more than the other team.

That has occurred two, and could have been three, times out of three games this year.

Those searching for instant gratification will find it's a wristy proposition.

 

[Balmainian]

Yes it was a tough call to say the least and yes we're brave and our defensive efforts are like nothing we've seen.

But….......... Our attack in general and our inability to score points is a massive concern.

We were an absolute shambles at times tonight with the ball, it wasn't just a comedy of errors at one point, it was a whole comedy festival.

Anf If anyone thinks that Reynolds and Tui are going to change things attack wise they're deluded afraid.
I think it's easy to overlook our problems because our defence is so good, but our offence is a real issue.

You left out Liddle

We were missing a lot of players who are important in our attack

Tui , Reynolds , Liddle and Taylor

You can't really comment until we field our best side

We have played the best 3 teams and very good defensive teams in the comp!!!!
Again the best 3, we’ve won 2 and kept another team try less.
Yes we not racking up cricket scores but we’re winning games and without a rubbish decision from a ref we could have been 3-0.
We have played quality opposition and been in the game for every minute.
Let’s not forget what has got us these results.
Defense.
The attack will come, we have a completely new spine and it’s been changing week to week so to expect more than what they are delivering is a bit rich.

 

[Geo]

Ivan just said we need to trust our attack more…

I forsee an avalanche of points against the Slimey farts

 

[westTAHger]

Let's be honest.
the defense in the 3 games so far, has improved immensely.
they team has not yet faded away from the 60 min mark.
they are playing as a team.

 

[tig_prmz]

it's definitely frustrating, but we can score when it matters.

i don't think we will be blowing away a team this year, but at the same time we won't let anyone blow us off the park either.

points are definitely very important, but we are making easy metres up the middle. matulino, packer, eiso and our back 3 keep getting us off to great starts.

the points will come if we continue to do as we are doing now if we continue to stay patient. there are players in motion and our completion rate in the first 2 games has been exceptional so it will happen as the team starts to gel more.