OK let's be honest now

[Snake]

We still have JRey, Lids, ET and Tui to come back. Benji is a defensive 5/8, he really doesn't offer much in attack. I think it's pretty clear he'll go back to the bench when JRey is fit. Hopefully they'll all be back this week.

Look at the players to be added as above … I find it hard to believe that most on this site do not get the gravity of what has been achieved so far this season . My spin on things is Cleary made and now proven that the start of the season playing the top sides first 5 rounds was going to be tough , what is the best way to beat these sides DO NOT LET THEM SCORE hence the focus on defence and getting the team to work together well, he has achieved that .
I also do not believe there has to be players with speed to burn to win matches yes the odd one .. I believe proper attacking structures are the key , how anyone could critisise Clearly for not making this team an attacking machine as well in 5 months astounds me.As a long term supporter I can only applaude all the coaching staff for the great work they have done so far!
Get our original spine on the park then complain how badly the coach is if they do not perform !

 

[king_sirro]

I don't rate Godinet at all, I think he has been poor in all 3 games, however there was one play in the 2nd half where he zipped out of dummy half, engaged the A defender before shifting the ball to the right where this enabled Benji and Marsters to have room and we looked dangerous. When we get a 9 that can regularly get us on the front with play like that our attack will come. Liddle and Brooks would do this well. Although I was happy with Brooks at 7 last night. He played like he believed he ran the team. If he can build on that then great. But we need a competent 9 who can engage the A defenders at speed.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Saying our attack is poor is ignoring the defensive efforts of the opposition. So far we've played three highly structured, experienced defensive teams so it's not surprising the games were a grind. Our forwards are giving us decent penetration and I have confidence our attack will come once the team settles.
At this stage I'm just pleased to see the resolve in defence - we've made the attack of Storm, Roosters and Broncos look poor.

I don’t buy this. Other teams that have played them so far haven’t struggled scoring points.

You are right, we have only scored 1 lucky try a game, other sides can score against these teams without much trouble

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

 

[AL The Tiger]

I just don't get these threads right now.

We are defending like a Top 4 side, defending against literally the Top 3 sides from 2017, conceding only 2 tries in 240 minutes, but the attack is apparently a massive issue. Are you giving any thought to how much effort / energy is being spent in making this defence happen and how the attack might be somewhat relegated?

We literally undergo an amazing transformation in 3 months from brittle side to amazingly tough side, and you take that with open arms, then complain that the attack isn't threatening enough. The attack against the Top 3 sides!!!!

Two better bounces of the ball and Corey Thompson scores of kicks twice. A little bit better handling and maybe Aloiai and Lawrence break the line also.

It wasn't pretty last night but I've watched a lot of sides play ugly football in the first 3 rounds, and Roosters, Storm and Broncos also struggled in attack against us.

Let's at least play one of the lesser defending sides before we wrist-slit over the current non-first-choice combination of Thompson-Benji-Brooks-McIlwrick. Not even Liddle or Tui or Reynolds in the side, who we would have started if we had the choice.

AND

We have 90 seconds to go, down by 1, we win a short kickoff, move to the posts and slot an equaliser, in literally 90 seconds… when has a Tigers attack ever had such composure? When have the Tigers defended against the best sides for 80 mins then hold composure, 3 weeks running, to take the winning or equalising play at the death?

I don't recognise this side at all, but it's the best team I've seen run out for us since 2011\. They don't attack like 2011 but we just don't have that cattle. They also don't defend like 2011, which was part of the reason we didn't make the GF either of those years.

Madness, we've not even been headed at FT in 3 weeks.

Great post

 

[southerntiger]

I don’t buy this. Other teams that have played them so far haven’t struggled scoring points.

You are right, we have only scored 1 lucky try a game, other sides can score against these teams without much trouble

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

No he didnt. It looked like it at first but it actually went through clean.

 

[AL The Tiger]

I don’t buy this. Other teams that have played them so far haven’t struggled scoring points.

You are right, we have only scored 1 lucky try a game, other sides can score against these teams without much trouble

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

Kicked it into legs? It went between one of the defenders legs. It was a good kick stop complaining jesus

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You are right, we have only scored 1 lucky try a game, other sides can score against these teams without much trouble

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

Kicked it into legs? It went between one of the defenders legs. It was a good kick stop complaining jesus

So 3 tries in 3 games doesn’t warrant complaining? Because I tell you, it’s going to be really hard to maintain our defence for 25 weeks. There’s bound to come a point a 10 points with 3 penalty goals won’t be enough.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I don’t buy this. Other teams that have played them so far haven’t struggled scoring points.

You are right, we have only scored 1 lucky try a game, other sides can score against these teams without much trouble

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

Looked perfectly executed to me. Though a more favourable bounce on other occasions would likely have yielded another two tries to Thompson.

 

[sheer64]

Never been prouder to be a Wests Tigers supporter over the last three weeks. Love the players attitude and against three of the best defensive teams in the competition with high end attacking players not only have we held our own, we have been the better team.
Love the change that has happened at our club and support it 100%.

 

[old_man_tiger]

I think last night we saw a game plan to take the offloads up again yet another notch. However, it clearly failed due to dropped ball and the team had to readjust the game plan on the fly. At one stage we were barely completing 50%.

Credit where it's due, we readjusted to a more solid, competitive plan in the second 40\. I hope we have another go at the more expansive game in better conditions, hopefully against parra as they might not number up as well against the offload as our last 3 opponents. Multiple phases, when executed better, will lead to lots of points, but very hard to play that way when you are gassed.

Mightn't need any offloads Monday week, just take aim at your mate Judas.

I ran out of names for him

 

[AL The Tiger]

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

Kicked it into legs? It went between one of the defenders legs. It was a good kick stop complaining jesus

So 3 tries in 3 games doesn’t warrant complaining? Because I tell you, it’s going to be really hard to maintain our defence for 25 weeks. There’s bound to come a point a 10 points with 3 penalty goals won’t be enough.

You're complaining about Brooks kicking into the defenders legs, and the try being "lucky" when the kick was perfectly executed and wasn't lucky at all.

Now you're simply nitpicking. If we score more points than the other team, then we win… Simple

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

Kicked it into legs? It went between one of the defenders legs. It was a good kick stop complaining jesus

So 3 tries in 3 games doesn’t warrant complaining? Because I tell you, it’s going to be really hard to maintain our defence for 25 weeks. There’s bound to come a point a 10 points with 3 penalty goals won’t be enough.

You're complaining about Brooks kicking into the defenders legs, and the try being "lucky" when the kick was perfectly executed and wasn't lucky at all.

Now you're simply nitpicking. If we score more points than the other team, then we win… Simple

Except for last night.

 

[Russell]

We still have JRey, Lids, ET and Tui to come back. Benji is a defensive 5/8, he really doesn't offer much in attack. I think it's pretty clear he'll go back to the bench when JRey is fit. Hopefully they'll all be back this week.

Look at the players to be added as above … I find it hard to believe that most on this site do not get the gravity of what has been achieved so far this season . My spin on things is Cleary made and now proven that the start of the season playing the top sides first 5 rounds was going to be tough , what is the best way to beat these sides DO NOT LET THEM SCORE hence the focus on defence and getting the team to work together well, he has achieved that .
I also do not believe there has to be players with speed to burn to win matches yes the odd one .. I believe proper attacking structures are the key , how anyone could critisise Clearly for not making this team an attacking machine as well in 5 months astounds me.As a long term supporter I can only applaude all the coaching staff for the great work they have done so far!
Get our original spine on the park then complain how badly the coach is if they do not perform !

Finally some logic - Oooohray!!!!!

Defence is fine - most would agree.

How about waiting for three quarters of the spine to come back and play together for the first time - add a few more weeks to gel and then complain if the attack is not working.

 

[Fibros]

I just don't get these threads right now.

We are defending like a Top 4 side, defending against literally the Top 3 sides from 2017, conceding only 2 tries in 240 minutes, but the attack is apparently a massive issue. Are you giving any thought to how much effort / energy is being spent in making this defence happen and how the attack might be somewhat relegated?

We literally undergo an amazing transformation in 3 months from brittle side to amazingly tough side, and you take that with open arms, then complain that the attack isn't threatening enough. The attack against the Top 3 sides!!!!

Two better bounces of the ball and Corey Thompson scores of kicks twice. A little bit better handling and maybe Aloiai and Lawrence break the line also.

It wasn't pretty last night but I've watched a lot of sides play ugly football in the first 3 rounds, and Roosters, Storm and Broncos also struggled in attack against us.

Let's at least play one of the lesser defending sides before we wrist-slit over the current non-first-choice combination of Thompson-Benji-Brooks-McIlwrick. Not even Liddle or Tui or Reynolds in the side, who we would have started if we had the choice.

AND

We have 90 seconds to go, down by 1, we win a short kickoff, move to the posts and slot an equaliser, in literally 90 seconds… when has a Tigers attack ever had such composure? When have the Tigers defended against the best sides for 80 mins then hold composure, 3 weeks running, to take the winning or equalising play at the death?

I don't recognise this side at all, but it's the best team I've seen run out for us since 2011\. They don't attack like 2011 but we just don't have that cattle. They also don't defend like 2011, which was part of the reason we didn't make the GF either of those years.

Madness, we've not even been headed at FT in 3 weeks.

+1

and saved a heap of typing..you are right…I think a lot are stuck in the Wests Tigers we'll score more mantra..

Attacking with defence has been my dream as a Wests Tigers fan for years..I have seen that 3 weeks running...could not be more happier...We will win more than we lose as that continues...

Have to agree with these comments. How good is it watching us defend our line for consecutive sets. To me personally i'd rather see Brooks saving a try on our line then Tedesco making a break and scoring.

Defence wins games early in the season. Cant wait till we put 20 on parra next week. Will be interesting to read the comments.

 

[Eddie]

What luck was involved in Chee-Kam's TRY..?

I keep hearing when the top sides click in attack we are screwed..well there were 4 genuine TRY scoring opportunities for us and it wasn't lack of speed or X-Factor they were blown it was execution…when we click other teams better look out...

Brooks kicked it into legs and we got the bounce.

Kicked it into legs? It went between one of the defenders legs. It was a good kick stop complaining jesus

So 3 tries in 3 games doesn’t warrant complaining? Because I tell you, it’s going to be really hard to maintain our defence for 25 weeks. There’s bound to come a point a 10 points with 3 penalty goals won’t be enough.

Its worth attention.

Not sure about complaining.

Looks the team we put on the park realistically??

Where are the weapons? There are almost zero.

3 tries in 3 weeks is not great but we lack of pace and power across the squad.

And you right its impossible to maintain this defensive rage as great as it is.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

I just don't get these threads right now.

We are defending like a Top 4 side, defending against literally the Top 3 sides from 2017, conceding only 2 tries in 240 minutes, but the attack is apparently a massive issue. Are you giving any thought to how much effort / energy is being spent in making this defence happen and how the attack might be somewhat relegated?

We literally undergo an amazing transformation in 3 months from brittle side to amazingly tough side, and you take that with open arms, then complain that the attack isn't threatening enough. The attack against the Top 3 sides!!!!

Two better bounces of the ball and Corey Thompson scores of kicks twice. A little bit better handling and maybe Aloiai and Lawrence break the line also.

It wasn't pretty last night but I've watched a lot of sides play ugly football in the first 3 rounds, and Roosters, Storm and Broncos also struggled in attack against us.

Let's at least play one of the lesser defending sides before we wrist-slit over the current non-first-choice combination of Thompson-Benji-Brooks-McIlwrick. Not even Liddle or Tui or Reynolds in the side, who we would have started if we had the choice.

AND

We have 90 seconds to go, down by 1, we win a short kickoff, move to the posts and slot an equaliser, in literally 90 seconds… when has a Tigers attack ever had such composure? When have the Tigers defended against the best sides for 80 mins then hold composure, 3 weeks running, to take the winning or equalising play at the death?

I don't recognise this side at all, but it's the best team I've seen run out for us since 2011\. They don't attack like 2011 but we just don't have that cattle. They also don't defend like 2011, which was part of the reason we didn't make the GF either of those years.

Madness, we've not even been headed at FT in 3 weeks.

X2

 

[Fibros]

I think last night we saw a game plan to take the offloads up again yet another notch. However, it clearly failed due to dropped ball and the team had to readjust the game plan on the fly. At one stage we were barely completing 50%.

Credit where it's due, we readjusted to a more solid, competitive plan in the second 40\. I hope we have another go at the more expansive game in better conditions, hopefully against parra as they might not number up as well against the offload as our last 3 opponents. Multiple phases, when executed better, will lead to lots of points, but very hard to play that way when you are gassed.

Thats how I seen it.

 

[magpiecol]

3 tries in 3 games is a massive concern. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. And if you want to get real picky, the 3 tries we have scored all have had a slice of luck about them. Reynolds is a street fighter who is as tenacious as they come. But cand he improve the attack that much? I don’t know.

Cleary has already addressed the attack issue.

I believe that you were always banging on about the teams weak defence. Now that the defence is the best in the comp, you are banging on about their attack. Small steps.

Can you find it in yourself to give them SOME credit.

:blush: :blush: :blush:

 

[Tigerdon]

Lawrence dropped three passes.

Marshall threw some bad passes.

Alioia dropped the ball with line wide open.

Defence is all about attitude which WT now have.

Need to invest in a speedy winger and decent centre.

Sorry but Lawrence and Kevin as hard as they try and not NRL standard

Is there Anyone else you want to throw under the bus?
Does Brooks get let off this week?

 

[05TIGZ]

3 tries in 3 games is a massive concern. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. And if you want to get real picky, the 3 tries we have scored all have had a slice of luck about them. Reynolds is a street fighter who is as tenacious as they come. But cand he improve the attack that much? I don’t know.

Cleary has already addressed the attack issue.

I believe that you were always banging on about the teams weak defence. Now that the defence is the best in the comp, you are banging on about their attack. Small steps.

Can you find it in yourself to give them SOME credit.

:blush: :blush: :blush:

The boys club will always find something to complain about. It must be hard for them to see more improvement in defence in 3 weeks than we did with JT in 3 years. We all know defence wins premierships. As long as we continue to defend like that and improve our attack each week then we will be fine. Go the mighty tigers.