One of Woods reasons to leave,to go to a stable club...

Woods said he would go into more detail once he's gone and in his safe space at Belmore. Would be ironic if he's mouthing off about us while his new club is without a coach.
 
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Hasler should of not been resigned the writing was already on the wall..he had his time .There is something smelly going down at the dogs , when you have such a well credentialed and respected CEO walk away something stinks and not in a good way ,Woods made his bed how ironic!

I think he was ready to be punted and what saved him was the fact he pulled off signing Foran.

You would have to assume that Foran only went there because of Hasler. Foran himself requires a high level of support to keep out of trouble, that's pretty clear, so what are the odds of Foran striking a winner at the Dogs without Hasler? Pretty long…

Agreed. Hasler would be great here and I think he is a great coach. He did however at Manly have a good run with a great team, he can build that team. At the Dogs he has made some huge mistakes and I think one of them is punting Reynolds. He should have put Foran at 1/2 or moved Reynolds to the centers. His moving of Ennis, hiring Brett Morris (although this could have worked, and may work in the future.. .it has failed for now) etc hasn't worked in his favour.

We need to give our coaches a little more slack. The dogs are a top 8 team performing poorly, were a bottom 4 team at the moment with maybe 3 top 8 players. Ivan has been given an omlette, someone like Hasler cannot keep a team in the top 4 year after year. It's going to take time to make us a top 8 team again and I think we need a roots and all approach to get there.
 
I'd have Woods back on fair money and with a public apology to the fans. I'm not sold on giving coaches too much slack though. Results matter a lot. My expectation is that the coaching staff get the most out of the players that they have and make good recruitment and retention decisions.

So far I think Cleary deserves to at least see his contract out. If he continues the way he has I'd have him here for a lot longer.
 
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I'd have Woods back on fair money and with a public apology to the fans. I'm not sold on giving coaches too much slack though. Results matter a lot. My expectation is that the coaching staff get the most out of the players that they have and make good recruitment and retention decisions.

So far I think Cleary deserves to at least see his contract out. If he continues the way he has I'd have him here for a lot longer.

Youve called him scum for months now yet youd have him back? He has played well lately but make no mistake, he has done a lot of damage to this squad. He does not deserve to enjoy the good times that may come after the way he acted.
We reap what we sow.
 
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I'd have Woods back on fair money and with a public apology to the fans. I'm not sold on giving coaches too much slack though. Results matter a lot. My expectation is that the coaching staff get the most out of the players that they have and make good recruitment and retention decisions.

So far I think Cleary deserves to at least see his contract out. If he continues the way he has I'd have him here for a lot longer.

Youve called him scum for months now yet youd have him back? He has played well lately but make no mistake, he has done a lot of damage to this squad. He does not deserve to enjoy the good times that may come after the way he acted.
We reap what we sow.

A public apology and fair wages to me though would be enough to accept him back. What do you think the likelihood of Woods issuing a public apology and accepting a fair wage is ? I think it will never happen.

I have never seen players disrespect the club like the 3 ingrates that we have overpaid for years on end. I still find it amazing that people stick up for them on here. I'd attend a public lynching.
 
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I'd have Woods back on fair money and with a public apology to the fans. I'm not sold on giving coaches too much slack though. Results matter a lot. My expectation is that the coaching staff get the most out of the players that they have and make good recruitment and retention decisions.

So far I think Cleary deserves to at least see his contract out. If he continues the way he has I'd have him here for a lot longer.

Youve called him scum for months now yet youd have him back? He has played well lately but make no mistake, he has done a lot of damage to this squad. He does not deserve to enjoy the good times that may come after the way he acted.
We reap what we sow.

A public apology and fair wages to me though would be enough to accept him back. What do you think the likelihood of Woods issuing a public apology and accepting a fair wage is ? I think it will never happen.

I have never seen players disrespect the club like the 3 ingrates that we have overpaid for years on end. I still find it amazing that people stick up for them on here. I'd attend a public lynching.

Now Earl mate, never be surprised because you can never know that is around the corner. I was very happily surprised and respected Jason Taylor when the poor guy had to apologise to HRH RF in front of the team. There are many overlaying factors about these guys so who knows how things will turn out. But you sound like Ayatollah Khomeini and the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution when discussing public lynchings.
 
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But you sound like Ayatollah Khomeini and the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution when discussing public lynchings.

I'm dead set against stuff like this in the wrong context but in the right context I think it makes sense.
 
It would be great to have a front row of woods, packer, matulino but it ain't going to happen. Woods would never be able to admit he acted poorly and his behaviour has burnt too many bridges at the club to ever be welcomed back.
 
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I'd have Woods back on fair money and with a public apology to the fans. I'm not sold on giving coaches too much slack though. Results matter a lot. My expectation is that the coaching staff get the most out of the players that they have and make good recruitment and retention decisions.

So far I think Cleary deserves to at least see his contract out. If he continues the way he has I'd have him here for a lot longer.

Youve called him scum for months now yet youd have him back? He has played well lately but make no mistake, he has done a lot of damage to this squad. He does not deserve to enjoy the good times that may come after the way he acted.
We reap what we sow.

A public apology and fair wages to me though would be enough to accept him back. What do you think the likelihood of Woods issuing a public apology and accepting a fair wage is ? I think it will never happen.

I have never seen players disrespect the club like the 3 ingrates that we have overpaid for years on end. I still find it amazing that people stick up for them on here. I'd attend a public lynching.

No. The bloke has had a huge part in derailing the season. His actions showed contempt for his coaches, the club and his team mates. Moreover the fans have had to endure this whole saga and watch the club they love be dragged through the wringer in the media to suit this mongrels agenda. The bloke could offer to come back for free and I wouldn't have him. I never thought the way Benji left could ever be topped. Woods made the way Benji left look like nothing.

I hope he has a miserable time at the Dogs. Don't necessarily hate Hasler but it would be hilarious to see Woods guffaw his way through Des copping the boot after harping about stability and dysfunction.
 
People through all walks of life make decisions they " think"are for the better…..hopefully they learn from their mistakes and become better people...

It's not what you do but " how" you do it.... :unamused:
 
The Ivan Cleary ‘what if’ to torture Wests Tigers fans

IVAN Cleary may yet be the Wests Tigers saviour but there will always be a ‘what if’ about his coaching career at Concord — the departures of Aaron Woods and James Tedesco.

Cleary arrived at a time when both the skipper and star fullback were in talks with rival clubs but put in a last-ditch bid to keep them, while determining that Mitchell Moses would be allowed to leave.

There’s no guarantee his coaching would ever have changed their minds but what’s clear is he’s already convincing his players the future is bright.

That may seem far-fetched while they sit 15th on the ladder, having just come off a seven-game losing streak with victory over the Knights in a game tagged as Spoon Bowl, but listen to Woods talk about his new mentor and you sense a change sweeping through the battling club.

“Ivan’s outstanding, I love working under Ivan,” Woods told foxsports.com.au.

“ … I didn’t really know much about him at the start but knowing now what he’s doing at the club and seeing how he’s handling things, I think the club’s in for a really good future.

“It hurts me to say that because at the end of the year I’m leaving. I really love Ivan and it was a really hard decision to make because Ivan’s been really good to me and I’ve really enjoyed my time underneath him.

“He’s showed a lot of faith in me and even though I’m leaving he’s backed me 100 per cent.

“I said to Ivan, I’d love to work with you, you never know what happens in footy.

“I said it’s not his fault. I said he’s walked into the club and he was always honest with every chat we had before I went through my contract stuff so he was really good and I think the club’s going to be really good with him there.”

While Cleary’s influence has been fleeting, there’s another Tigers figurehead who Woods has long admired — a man he respects so much he informed him of his decision to join the Bulldogs before it went public.

Very few men are more tortured by the joint venture’s seemingly constant struggles than larger-than-life Balmain legend Steve ‘Blocker’ Roach, and few have had a bigger influence on Woods’ career so far.

Currently in NSW camp with the team, Roach is the man Blues players go to for a yarn and a laugh and to keep the mood relaxed.

Woods has long been a friend and admirer, with Roach playing the role of confidante when Woods was considering his future.

“I’ve always spoken to Block about things and he was one of the guys I told before I was going to go, and he was just happy, he’s always been supportive and he just said ‘look after yourself and your family mate, you’ve got to do what’s best for your football career’,” Woods said.

Roach is another reason Woods struggled with his decision to leave, but having made the call to join Canterbury next season, he struggles with it no more.

Instead, he has pledged to give his all for the Tigers while he’s there and is determined to ensure his last season there doesn’t end with cutlery.

“For now all I’m concerned about is the Tigers,” Woods said.

“I don’t really care about how (the Bulldogs) go this year, I’m more worried about us, I just want to get us off the bottom of the table and hopefully get a few more wins this year, and anything can happen from there.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/the-ivan-cleary-what-if-to-torture-wests-tigers-fans/news-story/a1b42260af5cd31e109051de25d7f20b
 
Interesting timing to say the least are these comments. Just as we are looking settled for next year and the Dogs are in chaos. Is regret setting in? And if i was him, i'd care a lot how the Dogs are going, because a bottom 4 finish could see Des punted. So yeah, i'm sure that's another lie. You can't trust a word this buffoon says.
 
Good on ya Woods, he still misses the point. The greatest players, or even a rung down and let's just talk about the current top players all have one thing in common. It's about the team first. What's best for the individual is a distant consideration to what is best for the team.

For players who put themselves first or what they think is good for their family, they will never reach that top level.

And of course, it is the players who do everything they can for the team, putting the team first, that are often more highly revered, valued and reap the biggest rewards as an individual (and for their family).

Look at the Bulldogs, who is their most team-focused player, with little argument it's J.Reynolds. Not the most skilled, but the most team-focused. And his departure is causing massive problems for them, arguably contributing to their derailing season. Is Woods leaving causing us that much trouble? Pfft, he has already been replaced.
 
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Good on ya Woods, he still misses the point. The greatest players, or even a rung down and let's just talk about the current top players all have one thing in common. It's about the team first. What's best for the individual is a distant consideration to what is best for the team.

For players who put themselves first or what they think is good for their family, they will never reach that top level.

And of course, it is the players who do everything they can for the team, putting the team first, that are often more highly revered, valued and reap the biggest rewards as an individual (and for their family).

Look at the Bulldogs, who is their most team-focused player, with little argument it's J.Reynolds. Not the most skilled, but the most team-focused. And his departure is causing massive problems for them, arguably contributing to their derailing season. Is Woods leaving causing us that much trouble? Pfft, he has already been replaced.

Its crazy that they didn't try to keep grub in some capacity. Even if they did sign Foran, you probably could have slotted Reynolds into hooker. And he'd probably do a good job. But unfortunately the Dogs have a noose around their necks named Moses Mbye who is on a lot more than he's worth, so out of reluctance they have to move him to 9 and get rid of Reynolds. I'm sure they'd wish it were the other way round. Good to see we can benefit from another club's stupidity for a change.
 
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Good on ya Woods, he still misses the point. The greatest players, or even a rung down and let's just talk about the current top players all have one thing in common. It's about the team first. What's best for the individual is a distant consideration to what is best for the team.

For players who put themselves first or what they think is good for their family, they will never reach that top level.

And of course, it is the players who do everything they can for the team, putting the team first, that are often more highly revered, valued and reap the biggest rewards as an individual (and for their family).

Look at the Bulldogs, who is their most team-focused player, with little argument it's J.Reynolds. Not the most skilled, but the most team-focused. And his departure is causing massive problems for them, arguably contributing to their derailing season. Is Woods leaving causing us that much trouble? Pfft, he has already been replaced.

Its crazy that they didn't try to keep grub in some capacity. Even if they did sign Foran, you probably could have slotted Reynolds into hooker. And he'd probably do a good job. But unfortunately the Dogs have a noose around their necks named Moses Mbye who is on a lot more than he's worth, so out of reluctance they have to move him to 9 and get rid of Reynolds. I'm sure they'd wish it were the other way round. Good to see we can benefit from another club's stupidity for a change.

Mbye completely kyboshed that. He's on stupid money no one will take him anything close to what he's being paid.
 

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