One ref

Let the opposing captain choose who gets binned. It's one thing to get yourself binned but getting a team mate binned?
 
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148738) said:
Let the opposing captain choose who gets binned. It's one thing to get yourself binned but getting a team mate binned?

well the captain may as well pull the Uno Reverse Card on the ref and sinbin the ref instead

thus allowing 10minutes of "Bring Back the Biff Footy"
 
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148738) said:
Let the opposing captain choose who gets binned. It's one thing to get yourself binned but getting a team mate binned?

Better still the Captain gets binned..see ya Cammy..
 
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1148742) said:
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148738) said:
Let the opposing captain choose who gets binned. It's one thing to get yourself binned but getting a team mate binned?

Better still the Captain gets binned..see ya Cammy..

but wait
if Cammy uses his captains challange and wins
who gets sinbinned :scream:
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [One ref](/post/1148734) said:
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@mike said in [One ref](/post/1148673) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1148607) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1148599) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1148592) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1148584) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148583) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1148582) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148577) said:
I personally think the one ref will do us more harm than good

If you aren't dominating the ruck , this will hurt you

We’ll have to wait and see. If we get back to quick play-the-balls it might actually benefit.

Like to agree , but unless Ronnie's magic wand can turn the years back on BQM , we'd still have nothing to play off the back of

Sheens and Madge are almost polar opposites as well

It might give Brooks more room. He could kill it.

How would it give him more room? The ruck would be slower and there would be more time for defenders to be set. We aren’t a team that dominates the ruck having one ref is a big negative for us

No wrestling, the play-the-ball will be faster, the defence will still be getting back on side. Unlike now with the wrestle where the defence is set before players let the attacker play-the-ball. We’ll have to see how it works.

How will there be no wrestling? There will be more because there’s no pocket ref right next to the play the ball. Watch the international games with one ref and that’s what happens. Players don’t care about giving away penalties/six again every so often if it’s slowing down the ruck.

Infringements in the ruck will be called as six again to the attacking team. They will learn very quickly that it is not to their advantage to wrestle. The ref will manage the ruck. Touchies manage the 10 meters

What makes you think the players will learn? When the referees cracked down on the wrestling by blowing penalties there was 20+ penalties per game for weeks on end. They didn’t learn then, this is arguably a weaker punishment for wrestling so I doubt they learn now.

Best way to stop it is by sin binning players for doing it if they’re that desperate to eliminate the wrestle.

They will learn once opposition teams get a length-of-the-field free ride for repeated infringements which will result more often than not in tries being scored against the tired, retreating defence. Hopefully the sin-bin gets a good workout also. Players need to fall back under the control of the refs, they treat the refs as a joke currently (which plenty are but that needs to change).

Again, when the refs were blowing penalties for is 20 times a game it stopped no one. Instead people complained until the refs stopped blowing penalties - and now everyone is whining about wrestling again. Refs can’t win either way the poor buggers

Again, when a team concedes 6 consecutive '6 again' penalties and a team marches 100 metres off the back of them to score, players will learn or get dropped from 1st grade. The issue people had with refs blowing penalties was the stoppages in play, players milling about having a commitee meeting on-field after every penalty to waste time. With these automatic restarts of the tackle count the play will continue on unabated which fans won't mind.
Refs need to assert more authority, talk with a bit more authority instead of the chummy weasel act of Badger, Sutton, Cummins etc. Players referred by number only instead of nicknames would be a fantastic starting point. No joking around with players, getting dictated to by Cammy.
Hope they fig-up and start to put players on notice for a change.

If they’re happy to give away a penalty (which includes a 40 metres kick for touch or 2 points) they’ll be more than happy to cop six again which is the exact same punishment except it’s worse for the attacking teams. They’ll be happier to do it close to their line without the fear of giving away 2 points as well. The ref may call six again but the player will still slow the play the ball down enough for his team to get set in defence.

Repeated offences inside the attacking 10m or 20m should still result in the sin-bin hopefully.
Don't really care in what way the result is achieved: refs need to be in charge out there, not the other way round. Watch a few games from the 70's or 80's, the refs didn't pander to players. It was "my way or the highway" and the players respected that.
Sick of watching refs halt games because player X has told them they need to or refs asking blokes 5 or 6 times "what are you going to do here?" when players are stuffing around for an eternity. Don't instruct players to get onside, get to their feet before the PTB, square at marker etc......penalize them instead.

With you there mate. Refs need to get on with it sometimes
 
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148738) said:
Let the opposing captain choose who gets binned. It's one thing to get yourself binned but getting a team mate binned?

And.... if players do the right thing they get an immunity pin and if sent off, don’t have to go.

Maybe I’ve been watching too much Master Chef
 
I read that the ARLC is voting on having one ref or two tomorrow - hopefully V’landys listens to them and doesn’t just do what he wants anyway. Sounds like they’re very much against having one referee and want the NRL to look to save money elsewhere
 
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148831) said:
And know it turns out Cleary was lying again ...he wasn't even at home when that video was shot ....what a tosspot


So he lied to the cops, twice over the NRL integrity unit - takes everyone as mugs!
 
@tiger_one said in [One ref](/post/1148836) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148831) said:
And know it turns out Cleary was lying again ...he wasn't even at home when that video was shot ....what a tosspot


So he lied to the cops, twice over the integrity unit - takes everyone as mugs!

I think it's funny , Iv keeps Nathan in the leadership group , that can't be good for players relations ...when games are in the balance and you are looking for a reason to step it up ......
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148830) said:
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck

I don't think they are talking about removing the option of a penalty.
 
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148839) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148830) said:
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck

I don't think they are talking about removing the option of a penalty.

Why not just play an advantage rule then and you get to come back for the penalty at the end of the set if you can't score

That will add excitement
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148840) said:
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148839) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148830) said:
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck

I don't think they are talking about removing the option of a penalty.

Why not just play an advantage rule then and you get to come back for the penalty at the end of the set if you can't score

That will add excitementexcite


If you're one behind? I'd just take the penalty. Cooper didn't think too hard about his scenario.
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148830) said:
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck

Oh well.... It's the same for both teams.
Field goals were once worth 2.points.
Trys, 3.points.
Scrums had penalty goals
Things change.
It's the same for both teams
 
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148842) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148840) said:
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148839) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148830) said:
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck

I don't think they are talking about removing the option of a penalty.

Why not just play an advantage rule then and you get to come back for the penalty at the end of the set if you can't score

That will add excitementexcite


If you're one behind? I'd just take the penalty. Cooper didn't think too hard about his scenario.

One of his sinews wasn't in sync.......
 
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148842) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148840) said:
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1148839) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148830) said:
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck

I don't think they are talking about removing the option of a penalty.

Why not just play an advantage rule then and you get to come back for the penalty at the end of the set if you can't score

That will add excitementexcite


If you're one behind? I'd just take the penalty. Cooper didn't think too hard about his scenario.

Or if behind by 2 you could go to the Inglis Queensland school of applied mathematics and kick a field goal..
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148608) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1148607) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1148599) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1148592) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1148584) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148583) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1148582) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148577) said:
I personally think the one ref will do us more harm than good

If you aren't dominating the ruck , this will hurt you

We’ll have to wait and see. If we get back to quick play-the-balls it might actually benefit.

Like to agree , but unless Ronnie's magic wand can turn the years back on BQM , we'd still have nothing to play off the back of

Sheens and Madge are almost polar opposites as well

It might give Brooks more room. He could kill it.

How would it give him more room? The ruck would be slower and there would be more time for defenders to be set. We aren’t a team that dominates the ruck having one ref is a big negative for us

No wrestling, the play-the-ball will be faster, the defence will still be getting back on side. Unlike now with the wrestle where the defence is set before players let the attacker play-the-ball. We’ll have to see how it works.

How will there be no wrestling? There will be more because there’s no pocket ref right next to the play the ball. Watch the international games with one ref and that’s what happens. Players don’t care about giving away penalties/six again every so often if it’s slowing down the ruck.

My only real concern would be in your own half with the 6 again ...wouldn't you rather better field position than the 6 tackles ...your going to get 6 extra tackles with the penalty anyway

I agree - the 6 again is only useful inside the attacking 20 mtr zone. So often teams are happy to give a penalty away because it stops the flow. With a call of 6 again there is no stoppage however i think coaches will just instruct players to give away an offside penalty to halt the play if they can no longer stop play with a ruck penalty. The other problem is where a side is attacking and is down by 1 or 2 points and no time left on the clock - i'm sure they would rather a penalty.
 
@innsaneink said in [One ref](/post/1148851) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1148830) said:
Cooper Cronk came up with a situation I hadn't thought of

Your behind by 1 . two minutes to go and your attacking

They hold the player down continually and you don't get a penalty ..but you can't get a clean field goal shot either because you have players laying all over the ruck

Oh well.... It's the same for both teams.
Field goals were once worth 2.points.
Trys, 3.points.
Scrums had penalty goals
Things change.
It's the same for both teams

So why change it ....
 

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