Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[cochise]

It is still cheating if you give someone a contract signed by the club with them having the option of signing it at the completion of their career. That's just an effort to purposefully breach the rules.

Can't see that standing up in a court of law myself. Thinking about cheating is not cheating imo.

I will actually be more disappointed in the club if the contract is not signed by Farah as it shows a clear effort to purposefully deceive and cheat the cap. Drawing up and signing a contract, then giving that to the other party to sign at a later date, is not just thinking about cheating.

Farah has stated that he had not signed anything as he was not sure if he would commit to the Tigers after his retirement, the Tigers sign in good faith moving forward .. Farah is the party that has not signed and has admitted as much ,I see no attempt by the club to cheat the cap but as a lot here keep posting the club has cheated !

Having a contract sitting there signed by the club waiting for Farah's signature looks guilty as hell, and people would be up in arms if this was Roosters doing this.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Can't see that standing up in a court of law myself. Thinking about cheating is not cheating imo.

I will actually be more disappointed in the club if the contract is not signed by Farah as it shows a clear effort to purposefully deceive and cheat the cap. Drawing up and signing a contract, then giving that to the other party to sign at a later date, is not just thinking about cheating.

Farah has stated that he had not signed anything as he was not sure if he would commit to the Tigers after his retirement, the Tigers sign in good faith moving forward .. Farah is the party that has not signed and has admitted as much ,I see no attempt by the club to cheat the cap but as a lot here keep posting the club has cheated !

Having a contract sitting there signed by the club waiting for Farah's signature looks guilty as hell, **and people would be up in arms if this was Roosters doing this.**

The double standards are in overdrive. I’ve read comment sections on InfoWars that weren’t as ridiculous as some of the opinions in this thread.

 

[gallagher]

Can't see that standing up in a court of law myself. Thinking about cheating is not cheating imo.

I will actually be more disappointed in the club if the contract is not signed by Farah as it shows a clear effort to purposefully deceive and cheat the cap. Drawing up and signing a contract, then giving that to the other party to sign at a later date, is not just thinking about cheating.

Farah has stated that he had not signed anything as he was not sure if he would commit to the Tigers after his retirement, the Tigers sign in good faith moving forward .. Farah is the party that has not signed and has admitted as much ,I see no attempt by the club to cheat the cap but as a lot here keep posting the club has cheated !

Having a contract sitting there signed by the club waiting for Farah's signature looks guilty as hell, and people would be up in arms if this was Roosters doing this.

A $600k contract with no time frame for Farah to sign, nah not dodgy at all.

 

[cochise]

I will actually be more disappointed in the club if the contract is not signed by Farah as it shows a clear effort to purposefully deceive and cheat the cap. Drawing up and signing a contract, then giving that to the other party to sign at a later date, is not just thinking about cheating.

Farah has stated that he had not signed anything as he was not sure if he would commit to the Tigers after his retirement, the Tigers sign in good faith moving forward .. Farah is the party that has not signed and has admitted as much ,I see no attempt by the club to cheat the cap but as a lot here keep posting the club has cheated !

Having a contract sitting there signed by the club waiting for Farah's signature looks guilty as hell, and people would be up in arms if this was Roosters doing this.

A $600k contract with no time frame for Farah to sign, nah not dodgy at all.

I'd prefer a contract signed by Farah as at least that could be an honest mistake. A contract unsigned by Farah looks like the club purposefully tried to deceive.

 

[gallagher]

Farah has stated that he had not signed anything as he was not sure if he would commit to the Tigers after his retirement, the Tigers sign in good faith moving forward .. Farah is the party that has not signed and has admitted as much ,I see no attempt by the club to cheat the cap but as a lot here keep posting the club has cheated !

Having a contract sitting there signed by the club waiting for Farah's signature looks guilty as hell, and people would be up in arms if this was Roosters doing this.

A $600k contract with no time frame for Farah to sign, nah not dodgy at all.

I'd prefer a contract signed by Farah as at least that could be an honest mistake. A contract unsigned by Farah looks like the club purposefully tried to deceive.

Of course we did, I think fans just don't want to admit it.

 

[cochise]

Having a contract sitting there signed by the club waiting for Farah's signature looks guilty as hell, and people would be up in arms if this was Roosters doing this.

A $600k contract with no time frame for Farah to sign, nah not dodgy at all.

I'd prefer a contract signed by Farah as at least that could be an honest mistake. A contract unsigned by Farah looks like the club purposefully tried to deceive.

Of course we did, I think fans just don't want to admit it.

I agree but I'm very careful with my wording on here as people tend to get a little upset.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

A $600k contract with no time frame for Farah to sign, nah not dodgy at all.

I'd prefer a contract signed by Farah as at least that could be an honest mistake. A contract unsigned by Farah looks like the club purposefully tried to deceive.

Of course we did, I think fans just don't want to admit it.

I agree but I'm very careful with my wording on here as people tend to get a little upset.

You have to tread lightly. Some get very offended if you don’t use soft language.

 

[happy_tiger]

I'd prefer a contract signed by Farah as at least that could be an honest mistake. A contract unsigned by Farah looks like the club purposefully tried to deceive.

Of course we did, I think fans just don't want to admit it.

I agree but I'm very careful with my wording on here as people tend to get a little upset.

You have to tread lightly. Some get very offended if you don’t use soft language.

You mean treat them like petals

Stuff that , everyone needs to meet reality at some stage , the real world will bite you before you see its teeth

Anyway back on point , looks like the club has had another Forrest Gump moment ….lets see how it plays out from here

 

[diedpretty]

What i don't understand is why Farah hasn't signed the mythical contract as he has stated. Surely if he was foregoing money in say 2016 on the promise he would get it back at a later date and here is a contract stating that we will do that - why hasn't he signed to make sure that he gets this money. If such a contract exists and is only signed by WT then they can legally withdraw that contract on the grounds that Farah has had long enough to sign and hasn't done so. In which case Farah loses the money he supposedly didn't get paid when he left. Now i know Robbie probably isn't the smartest financial wizard on earth, but to not sign a contract that guarantees you money you supposedly didn't get when leaving is a bit of a stretch - even for Farah.

 

[cochise]

What i don't understand is why Farah hasn't signed the mythical contract as he has stated. Surely if he was foregoing money in say 2016 on the promise he would get it back at a later date and here is a contract stating that we will do that - why hasn't he signed to make sure that he gets this money. If such a contract exists and is only signed by WT then they can legally withdraw that contract on the grounds that Farah has had long enough to sign and hasn't done so. In which case Farah loses the money he supposedly didn't get paid when he left. Now i know Robbie probably isn't the smartest financial wizard on earth, but to not sign a contract that guarantees you money you supposedly didn't get when leaving is a bit of a stretch - even for Farah.

For the exact reason you all state, so they can deny the existence of the role.

 

[gallagher]

Im wondering if it was 1a case of a rookie CEO struggling to find a solution to the problem until a player agent came up with a brilliant plan.

 

[happy_tiger]

Im wondering if it was 1a case of a rookie CEO struggling to find a solution to the problem until a player agent came up with a brilliant plan.

Trusting Sam Ayoub is like hand feeding a poisonous snake

 

[JD Tiger]

Whether or not this contract for a post-NRL job is signed or not, is not the issue.

The accusations are that this role was to compensate Robbie for TPAs that he did not receive. If so, they argue that is cheating. If not, it is just NRL whingeing about not being informed officially (even though they already knew about it),

To me, NRL must believe they can prove that the job was offered to compensate for those cancelled TPAs, otherwise they wouldn't have proceeded. And that is the evidence I am looking forward to seeing. Anything less, and I think it proves their own bias.

 

[Newtown]

Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.

If there is - has it been signed by both parties?

Once again we don't know.

The NRL has said there is a contract, if it is signed by the Tigers then they are guilty.

Doesn't a contract need to be signed by both parties to be valid?

It is still cheating if you give someone a contract signed by the club with them having the option of signing it at the completion of their career. That's just an effort to purposefully breach the rules.

How sure are you of this statement? Do you have a Law degree?

 

[diedpretty]

What i don't understand is why Farah hasn't signed the mythical contract as he has stated. Surely if he was foregoing money in say 2016 on the promise he would get it back at a later date and here is a contract stating that we will do that - why hasn't he signed to make sure that he gets this money. If such a contract exists and is only signed by WT then they can legally withdraw that contract on the grounds that Farah has had long enough to sign and hasn't done so. In which case Farah loses the money he supposedly didn't get paid when he left. Now i know Robbie probably isn't the smartest financial wizard on earth, but to not sign a contract that guarantees you money you supposedly didn't get when leaving is a bit of a stretch - even for Farah.

For the exact reason you all state, so they can deny the existence of the role.

So how does Robbie guarantee that he gets his money if he doesn't sign the contract. You reckon Pascoe is a cheat so whats stopping him or WT from withdrawing the contract before Farah signs leaving him with nothing.

 

[happy_tiger]

Whether or not this contract for a post-NRL job is signed or not, is not the issue.

The accusations are that this role was to compensate Robbie for TPAs that he did not receive. If so, they argue that is cheating. If not, it is just NRL whingeing about not being informed officially (even though they already knew about it),

To me, NRL must believe they can prove that the job was offered to compensate for those cancelled TPAs, otherwise they wouldn't have proceeded. And that is the evidence I am looking forward to seeing. Anything less, and I think it proves their own bias.

If this is true (which I don't believe ) we are a pack of fools

 

[Lauren]

I’ve seen it suggested on the forum a few times, that the problem is that it’s basically about unpaid TPAs. Therefore I have a honest question for anyone that has been following this closely. Has Todd Greenberg (or anyone else from the NRL) actually implied this?
I only remember Greenberg stating that, he feels Justin Pascoe’s offering RF a post-career job whilst attempting cap relief for the club - looks to be highly misleading conduct from Pascoe i.e. contradictory. But this doesn’t exactly suggest anything about TPAs.

I’ve yet to actually hear anything about it elsewhere is my point.

Also, hasn’t Robbie come out and said that he was paid outright by the club?

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Doesn't a contract need to be signed by both parties to be valid?

It is still cheating if you give someone a contract signed by the club with them having the option of signing it at the completion of their career. That's just an effort to purposefully breach the rules.

Can't see that standing up in a court of law myself. Thinking about cheating is not cheating imo.

I will actually be more disappointed in the club if the contract is not signed by Farah as it shows a clear effort to purposefully deceive and cheat the cap. Drawing up and signing a contract, then giving that to the other party to sign at a later date, is not just thinking about cheating.

"Giving that contract to the other party to sign at a later date"…. IF they choose to do so. IF. Farah has supposedly said he hasnt signed it. The word "IF" would create a lot of doubt in a court of law.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

The NRL has said there is a contract, if it is signed by the Tigers then they are guilty.

Doesn't a contract need to be signed by both parties to be valid?

It is still cheating if you give someone a contract signed by the club with them having the option of signing it at the completion of their career. That's just an effort to purposefully breach the rules.

How sure are you of this statement? Do you have a Law degree?

Plenty of lawyers on here! Lots of episodes of Law and Order have been thoroughly researched.

 

[happy_tiger]

I’ve seen it suggested on the forum a few times, that the problem is that it’s basically about unpaid TPAs. Therefore I have a honest question for anyone that has been following this closely. Has Todd Greenberg (or anyone else from the NRL) actually implied this?
Greenberg stated that, he feels Justin Pascoe’s offering RF a post-career job whilst attempting cap relief for the club - looks highly misleading i.e. contradictory. But this doesn’t exactly suggest anything about TPAs.
I’ve yet to actually hear anything about it elsewhere is my point.

Also, hasn’t Robbie come out and said that he was paid outright by the club?

Lauren a TPA doesn't come from the club , the player manager and player present it to the club as part of a package …...

The club may not owe Robbie a thing , the TPA he lost when he left however may ....... the TPA may have not applied when he left the WT's