Police Raid Player Agents...

@Pawsandclaws said:
@Swordy said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Slammin Sam at it again. That's some mighty fine company Robbie keeps.

GNR only targets one out of four player managers and then drags Robbie Farah into his putrescence while neglecting to mention other players from our club managed by Sam Ayoub who are not of Australian Lebanese heritage.

You really are the turd that keeps on sticking its head around the s bend.

And comments like that is why this once good forum is going down the shute at 100mph.

I'm glad to see others have called him out on it as well

I dont think swordy is backing you paws…dont turn it into something its not
I agree, Robbie shouldnt be mentioned here...nothing to do with him other than his manager involved in yet another drama...but its no racial thing as youre desperately trying to make it into
 
@innsaneink said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Swordy said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
GNR only targets one out of four player managers and then drags Robbie Farah into his putrescence while neglecting to mention other players from our club managed by Sam Ayoub who are not of Australian Lebanese heritage.

You really are the turd that keeps on sticking its head around the s bend.

And comments like that is why this once good forum is going down the shute at 100mph.

I'm glad to see others have called him out on it as well

I dont think swordy is backing you paws…dont turn it into something its not
I agree, Robbie shouldnt be mentioned here...nothing to do with him other than his manager involved in yet another drama...but its no racial thing as youre desperately trying to make it into

I agree with you ink i dont believe it is racist issue but GNR tends to drag everything into a Robbie bashing thread.He or she cant help themselves.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Swordy said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Slammin Sam at it again. That's some mighty fine company Robbie keeps.

GNR only targets one out of four player managers and then drags Robbie Farah into his putrescence while neglecting to mention other players from our club managed by Sam Ayoub who are not of Australian Lebanese heritage.

You really are the turd that keeps on sticking its head around the s bend.

And comments like that is why this once good forum is going down the shute at 100mph.

I'm glad to see others have called him out on it as well

Don't be too hard on GNR Paws.
His computer is so used to thinking , Robbie Farah=Bad , that it's now taught itself to add a derogatory comment about Farah in every post that GNR makes concerning anyone
That has ever Met Robbie :laughing:
 
@innsaneink said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Ha, perhaps because his manager has form in poor conduct, particularly in regard to match fixing, but you're racist because he's Lebanese. Same bloke that was going to bring the club down with some non existent dossier.

His ancestry has nothing to do with it, he's a grub.

This is all

People trying to turn this into a racist thing …

:laughing:

Of course not, all that match fixing thingy stuff.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/sam-ayoub-cleared-in-nrl-betting-case/story-e6frg7mf-1226360399250
 
Yeah right, complete coincidence that Brad Murray happened upon a bloke ten years his senior that he never played with…

The only link? Their manager who told him to put the bets on.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@innsaneink said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Ha, perhaps because his manager has form in poor conduct, particularly in regard to match fixing, but you're racist because he's Lebanese. Same bloke that was going to bring the club down with some non existent dossier.

His ancestry has nothing to do with it, he's a grub.

This is all

People trying to turn this into a racist thing …

:laughing:

Of course not, all that match fixing thingy stuff.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/sam-ayoub-cleared-in-nrl-betting-case/story-e6frg7mf-1226360399250

Come to your own opinion by reading the evidence, I certainly have…

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/54a638f53004de94513da50b
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@cktiger said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Slammin Sam at it again. That's some mighty fine company Robbie keeps.

Too bad you don't read (or comprehend) the whole story.
There were 4 player managers raided - all those representing Parramatta players.
That somehow relates to Farah's character?
Mighty fine company Thurston keeps as well I suppose.. and Nofoaluma, Tamou, Milford, Rapana, Tagatese, Tedesco etc etc
Oh, sorry, they must be **'different'**.

Tedesco punted him. And with good reason.

Even if Tedesco has changed managers (and I'm not sure he has) you haven't addressed the question of all the other players he manages who choose to be 'in his company'.
Once again you skip the issue by trying to divert to something unrelated, while still managing to put another dig in.
It's plain to see by most that it gives you some sort of perverse pleasure to stir up the hornets nest and then watch the reaction it causes.
Well, you got what you wanted - you can go to bed with a gold star on your forehead now.
 
@Nelson said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@innsaneink said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Ha, perhaps because his manager has form in poor conduct, particularly in regard to match fixing, but you're racist because he's Lebanese. Same bloke that was going to bring the club down with some non existent dossier.

His ancestry has nothing to do with it, he's a grub.

This is all

People trying to turn this into a racist thing …

:laughing:

Of course not, all that match fixing thingy stuff.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/sam-ayoub-cleared-in-nrl-betting-case/story-e6frg7mf-1226360399250

Come to your own opinion by reading the evidence, I certainly have…

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/54a638f53004de94513da50b

What a great read that was and my favourite part was

_"Mr Murrihy was also called by the prosecution as an expert in analysing betting patterns. He was general manager of the Integrity/Chairman with Racing New South Wales. He analysed the records from all betting entities utilised by the three men in the lead up to the Cowboys/Bulldogs game and concluded that the betting patterns:\
\
… inextricably pointed to evidence of an attempt to defraud betting operators by manipulation of the Cowboys versus Bulldogs NRL fixture on 21 August 2010."_
 
Nah, hands are totally clean.

Wonder if it may have been because someone might have threatened young Mr. Murray and he changed his evidence?

Certainly not a man of John Elias' character?
 
@DonnyBrasco said:
@Nelson said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@innsaneink said:
This is all

People trying to turn this into a racist thing …

:laughing:

Of course not, all that match fixing thingy stuff.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/sam-ayoub-cleared-in-nrl-betting-case/story-e6frg7mf-1226360399250

Come to your own opinion by reading the evidence, I certainly have…

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/54a638f53004de94513da50b

What a great read that was and my favourite part was

_"Mr Murrihy was also called by the prosecution as an expert in analysing betting patterns. He was general manager of the Integrity/Chairman with Racing New South Wales. He analysed the records from all betting entities utilised by the three men in the lead up to the Cowboys/Bulldogs game and concluded that the betting patterns:\
\
… inextricably pointed to evidence of an attempt to defraud betting operators by manipulation of the Cowboys versus Bulldogs NRL fixture on 21 August 2010."_

The worst part of the attempted sting alluded to, is that it more than likely led to Ryan Tandy no longer being with us today after being made the Patsie by a grub/s.
 
@happy tiger said:
Makes you wonder whether they will find anything that points the finger at other clubs and their possible indiscretions

Could be Happy…

Up to 10 NRL player managers face possible criminal prosecution after police raids
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Roy Masters
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Up to 10 player managers, representing most of rugby league's elite players, face possible criminal prosecution and NRL de-registration, following a joint NSW Police/Integrity Unit investigation into the Parramatta salary cap breaches.
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Four prominent player managers – Wayne Beavis, Sam Ayoub, George Mimis and Paul Sutton – have already been served with police warrants during a State Crime Command's Strike Force Rhodium operation on Thursday, when their premises were raided and information taken away.
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It has been speculated six agents were on the NRL hit list but Fairfax Media understands RL Central is scrutinising the role of up to 10 player managers, representing a significant proportion of the game's players and, potentially, athletes from other sports.
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NSW Police recently announced two very significant and high-profile investigations into rugby league – player managers and match fixing – with a third, serious fiduciary breaches by Parramatta officials, continuing. The resources police dedicated to Thursday's raid on the offices and premises of the four player managers indicate the seriousness they attach to the three enquiries.
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If it all comes to nought, it will be an embarrassing backdown by a police force with multiple demands on its resources.
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On the other hand, there is a strong chance of criminal prosecution against the five Parramatta officials already de-registered by the NRL, following exposure of multiple salary cap breaches, together with action against serving officials. Prosecution of player managers would follow.
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If it is established that a significant number of agents have breached their obligations under the existing Player Management Accreditation code, it can be assumed the Rugby League Players Association and the NRL will combine to push through a new scheme for agents.
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**It is expected this will be fiercely opposed by a number of long-standing player managers who have already hinted at retaliation by exposing alleged salary cap breaches committed by former club chief executives.**
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However, the Herald understands NRL Integrity chief Nick Weeks has been given unfettered powers to investigate all player managers and his independence was demonstrated in Thursday's police raid when he was the only NRL official to be briefed ahead of the sting.
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The NRL has less control over agents, compared to players and club officials, including reduced access to documents and records.
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The NRL is not responsible for monitoring or enforcing agents' rules. This is the duty of a Player Manager Accreditation committee, headed by Paul Massey.
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Ultimately, it is this committee that will decide if disciplinary measures will be taken against one or more agents, but it will be the NRL that provides the evidence to lay the charges and impose the penalties.
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Hence the co-operation between the NRL and the NSW Police for Weeks to provide a brief to Massey, which will withstand legal challenge.
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While rugby league's senior agents will have the credibility and support of their clients to oppose heightened regulation of their activities, it will be lost if it is proven they have breached the rules.
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It is possible some leading players may already have decided to sever their management agreements.
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The existing agent accreditation scheme has not been changed since revelations of the 2010 Melbourne Storm salary cap breaches when a small number of player managers – Isaac Moses, David Riolo, Allan Gainey and Mimis – were sanctioned.
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Gainey was cautioned but the other three were banned for only six months, while Storm players were stripped of two major premierships, required to play for no points and many forced to leave the club.
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There is residual anger in Melbourne over the slap-on-the-wrist penalties to the agents, compared to the sledgehammer blow to the club and its players.
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Conspiracy theories about agents, Parramatta and the NRL have been swirling for months with one being that Beavis was targeted as the sacrificial lamb, given his age and his reduced management list. It was speculated this was aborted when Beavis agreed to land star client, Jarryd Hayne with the Gold Coast Titans, a club the NRL controls and seeks to make competitive in the Gold Coast marketplace.
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Beavis rejects this scenario as lunacy, adding: "I had no dealings whatsoever with the NRL over Jarryd going to the Titans."
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NRL action against the player managers is not imminent. In the same way the NRL took time to assemble a case against the Parramatta officials that successfully withstood legal challenge, the Integrity Unit will not be rushed, aware there will inevitably be lawyers and litigation.
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/up-to-10-nrl-player-managers-face-possible-criminal-prosecution-after-police-raids-20161022-gs8hs2.html

You have to ask if these Player managers have evidence of salary cap breaches committed by former club chief executives...they would be obliged to come forward....Then again they would be reluctant to cut off your nose to spite your face so to speak.....
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Yeah right, complete coincidence that Brad Murray happened upon a bloke ten years his senior that he never played with…

The only link? Their manager who told him to put the bets on.

And what about Liam Ayoub , how did he this coincidently just stumble into it as well
 
Police raid Ayoub's office looking for some creditability but left empty handed.
 
@Kavi said:
this could get intersting fast…

Until it is the WT's that get caught out and have to play the season out for zero competition points and have to release Tedesco ,Moses ,Woods ,Sue and Nofoaluma :bawling
 
@happy tiger said:
@Kavi said:
this could get intersting fast…

Until it is the WT's that get caught out and have to play the season out for zero competition points and have to release Tedesco ,Moses ,Woods ,Sue and Nofoaluma :bawling

but our coach could ride it out okay - we are progressing it is not about winning, just a flesh wound (only having a joke)
 
It is expected this will be fiercely opposed by a number of long-standing player managers who have already hinted at retaliation by exposing alleged salary cap breaches committed by former club chief executives.

So if they go down, theyre taking others with them…regardless that they were allegedly complicit in the first place...dogs

..and they wonder why crowds are down
 
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