Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

I would have loved to have seen this last year. We have heard reports Potter tried to structure Farah's contract to exit the club at this exact same time. he lost the power struggle and lost his job. That was the correct way to reduce our investment in an aging player. It treated him with a little more respect and gave him time to set up his future.

Unfortunately the club chose player over coach, even though the coach was getting results at the time. All be it early to mid season results.

The situation we have now while it may be the correct decision from a squad point of view it is a massive concern from a board and coach and running of the club point of view.

It appears that the board is backing Taylor, he is their appointment if they were to replace him it reflects on them. Instead the make Farah accountable. Taylor has yet to prove himself a decent first grade coach. It has been a very disappointing year, our position on the table reflects that.

We also have no proof that the board has enough rugby league knowledge to make an informed decision on a situation as complex as this. We heard reports previously where the board over ruled the coaching staff and released young superstar Te Maire Martin, if true it brings into question their ability to make informed football decisions.

We have been conned with the events of this year. This decision to remove Farah was set into action weeks ago when Go and Taylor went crying poor to the newspapers and pleaded for the supporter base to understand the difficult decisions they are about to make.

We are also being conned with the timing of the new sponsor who is supposedly replacing Harry. We are also being conned with the delay in the appointment of the new CEO, no doubt they already have someone appointed, no doubt the sponsor is also a lock. These decisions will be used very shortly to balance the Robbie Farah uproar. If you cant see that you are having the wool pulled over your eyes.

From the look of the reaction here 90% are falling for it, but im not buying the boards actions and media releases. They arent genuine, they are business like, very clinical and deliberate. It is all thought out and planned.

Run the club like a business by all means! But this is not purely a business its a footy club!

If the most vocal and knowledgeable football opinion we have representing the club is the unproven Jason Taylor then im sorry to say we truly are the joke of the league.

Things may improve off the field but nothing is ever going to change on the field without a large injection of football knowledge and experience.
 
Life has a funny way of coming back to bite you sometimes

The board are making tough decisions on several topics and none would have been harder than this one.

It does highlight how crap the salary cap rules are to support juniors though and this should spark a review of that process formally.

Will be very interested in what Robbie says to the media over the next few days

Time will tell how this plays out

It is a shame that he didn't get a LO farewell however that's Karma for you Robbie…....

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I recall Marino Go mention that the current board is not involved in player retention/negotiation aspects like the previous board was.

So if we have no current CEO to instigate this, and the board apparently don't interfere with the playing roster, then JT and his camp are the only people I can realistically see as being behind the move.

Is JT protecting his own arse and heading off another Mick Potter scenario? Or has Farah done something to upset the wrong people again?

Maybe one of the 'insiders' that lurk these forums can give us an indication of what's really going on here, because I don't think it's purely a salary cap matter at all.

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These are the calls that have to be made if you want to turn our club around. I just got the tap on the shoulder after 41 years, the bottom line the company could replace me with a younger model on half the coin and like Robbie I did not walk out empty handed. For sure your ego takes a hit and you start questioning things like loyalty, but at the end of the day these things happen everyday, you just move on and time will tell if it was the right call.

One thing for certain big calls are required when your coming stone motherless last with no cap space to be able to bolster the ranks
 
@Abraham said:
I recall Marino Go mention that the current board is not involved in player retention/negotiation aspects like the previous board was.

So if we have no current CEO to instigate this, and the board apparently don't interfere with the playing roster, then JT and his camp are the only people I can realistically see as being behind the move.

Is JT protecting his own arse and heading off another Mick Potter scenario? Or has Farah done something to upset the wrong people again?

Maybe one of the 'insiders' that lurk these forums can give us an indication of what's really going on here, because I don't think it's purely a salary cap matter at all.

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I think you are pretty close here.This is a Taylor decision.
 
It's obvious that JT sees the Club direction in another way that doesn't include Farah despite him coming out and saying " Farah is an integral part of this and the direction we are trying to take this Club ".
Farah has not been allowed to play his natural game for the longest time and you can see the affect it's having on him and the team.
Get ready Jason Taylor your next.
 
@Mighty Tiger said:
Life has a funny way of coming back to bite you sometimes

The board are making tough decisions on several topics and none would have been harder than this one.

It does highlight how crap the salary cap rules are to support juniors though and this should spark a review of that process formally.

Will be very interested in what Robbie says to the media over the next few days

Time will tell how this plays out

It is a shame that he didn't get a LO farewell however that's Karma for you Robbie…....

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A Ctown farewell is just as good :wink:
 
@foreveratiger said:
It's obvious that JT sees the Club direction in another way that doesn't include Farah despite him coming out and saying " Farah is an integral part of this and the direction we are trying to take this Club ".
Farah has not been allowed to play his natural game for the longest time and you can see the affect it's having on him and the team.
Get ready Jason Taylor your next.
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I doubt that he is
 
Reported on TripleM that he is going to Souths ( not confirmed) Plenty of Footy left in Robbie and we will be paying for him to play there. The irony of it all.
 
Early this year I got the tap on the shoulder after 41 years. The company I work with could replace me with a younger model and half the coin. My ego took a hit, but the company I worked with was not a charity and was in the business of making profits for their share holders. I walked with a generous package and six months latter I have moved on. Now Farah will not leave empty handed and when the club is under performing big time across the three grades big calls are required and time will tell if this is the right one. You just can not sack the coach every year and keep the same roster and expect things to change.

We are coming stone motherless last these calls need to made
 
@tig_prmz said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Fans and supporters run on emotion..
Sporting clubs run on dollars and cents !
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where do the dollars and cents come from?
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Well for us at the moment I'd say sponsorship, jersey stickers, NRL grant, and guaranteed money at ANZ. The turnouts at LO and CSS of late would suggest it's probably costing money to play there, so the money fans tip in would be marginal by comparison.

You know what brings fans through the gates? I'll give you a hint, it has something to with not being on the wrong end of the result and not watching ageing players not living up to their pay packet. Sentimentally, it's never nice to watch someone who has played most of their career with the club move on, but it's very much a results driven business. If you don't perform you get rissoled.

Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
 
Great day for WTs, we dump our one player who actually cares about winning, and actually tries to win every time he goes on the field,
We Keep all the ones who hardly make a difference to a game. (The type of thinking that this board is good at.)
We keep the worst Coach in the NRL,
we pay 1.2 million next year to the halves, who have shown very little and still are in the potential category, and may or may not progress further than that,
We resign Lovett after watching him get progressively worst as this season goes on
And we have a forward pack that no one in the league in the entire NRL fears.
We have people here who say that some players will stay with us because they are loyal and love the club.
I hope those players see that this is the sort of loyalty that you can expect in return.

Farah is going to be the scapegoat for the boards ineptitude and the Coaches lack of knowledge and ability.
What a load of crap
 
JT will see his contract out, no doubt about that. But to have his contract renewed, he has to make a dent in the player market next yr for 2017\. I'm sure he knows this, so he's going after the big fish, taking up all the money well past their use by date.
 
@jirskyr said:
I do find it ironic that a significant bunch of forummers run the line "it's business, take the emotion out", but they will jump up and down watching the game this weekend, happy as Larry if we win and very disappointed if we lose.

So watching the team play is an emotional experience, but the makeup of the team is not? You don't care who it is representing us, so long as they are wearing a WT jersey?

I don't like this decision one bit. I understand the explanation, but I don't support it. Farah's had maybe two ordinary half-seasons in 10 years and some supporters are so quick to see the back of him, because he is 31 and we are running last. We have two state-rep players and we are ready to offload one of them because someone decided to pay him a bit too much money a few years ago.

I also fear that this is the action of a new board / coach / GM that wants to sure up it's own position at the expense of a player. Why not get rid of a stalwart if it buys you a few more years in the job?

For all those who are happy that Farah might leave: I hope you are ready for the backlash if Farah comes roaring back into form in another set of NRL colours.
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Trust you to twist things to suit your argument..irony indeed
. You are the king of this.
Of course emotion is involved…. It's why were all here... But emotion shouldn't come into business decisions with a view to the future from the clubs point of view
 
All these ex players coming out and bagging the club and it's poor culture… A culture Farah has been at the helm of for many many years.
Moltz 's is a pea hearted coward and wouldn't have the balls to say what he has if he s still contacted
 
What annoys me is that we've been crying out for someone to take the bull by the horns and make the tough decisions that no one wants to make because we're sick of doing the same old thing and seeing the same old results, and now that's starting to happen some are getting their knickers in a knot.

I welcome the change, and I'm sure the club would not have come to the decision lightly. I sincerely hope this fosters a turnaround and we start to see some sustained success.
 
A legacy of the previous admistration …....... whats happening here is disloyal, disrespectful and distasteful to both the player and the fans. A player who has given as much as Robbie should be able to see out his career with one club and be a one club player. The fans should have been able to give him the send off he deserves when he is ready to retire ........ had the club been better managed under Mayer and the previous board, things would never get to this point. But this sort of decision is a legacy of their tenure at the club. Thank God Mayer, Bailey and Trodden no longer run our club.
I hated it the way Benji left, how Gibbs and Heighnington left and now how Farah is being shafted.
Call me emotional ... call me whatever you like ....... but this sort of thing really upsets me and leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
 
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