Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[jirskyr]

I do find it ironic that a significant bunch of forummers run the line "it's business, take the emotion out", but they will jump up and down watching the game this weekend, happy as Larry if we win and very disappointed if we lose.

So watching the team play is an emotional experience, but the makeup of the team is not? You don't care who it is representing us, so long as they are wearing a WT jersey?

I don't like this decision one bit. I understand the explanation, but I don't support it. Farah's had maybe two ordinary half-seasons in 10 years and some supporters are so quick to see the back of him, because he is 31 and we are running last. We have two state-rep players and we are ready to offload one of them because someone decided to pay him a bit too much money a few years ago.

I also fear that this is the action of a new board / coach / GM that wants to sure up it's own position at the expense of a player. Why not get rid of a stalwart if it buys you a few more years in the job?

For all those who are happy that Farah might leave: I hope you are ready for the backlash if Farah comes roaring back into form in another set of NRL colours.

Trust you to twist things to suit your argument..irony indeed
. You are the king of this.
Of course emotion is involved…. It's why were all here... But emotion shouldn't come into business decisions with a view to the future from the clubs point of view

Why shouldn't emotion come into business decisions? Who said business must always be cold and calculating?

Do you reckon all the top businesses and business leaders run on nothing but cold hard logic? Do you think there isn't room for emotion, gut feelings, loyalty, camaraderie?

What's the point of HR or personnel development if you don't care about the emotion of decisions.

Nope, too much a cliche for me.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I hope Robbie ends up at Souffs for one reason and one reason only and that is to watch that fat maggot turncoat Alien cheer for him after he's done nothing but lay the slipper into him for the last few years about him being a sook. The irony would be hilarious.

 

[foreveratiger]

Yeah i agree League is a Business i get all that…..but the lack of respect shown to players like Farah , Lawrence and Galloway when still having Contracts with us to now being asked they can look elsewhere won't sit well with some players in our current side .
Just don't cry if in 2 years players like Brooks , Moses and Tedesco leave to other Clubs ? why be loyal it's Business right ? that is exactly how i would be treating it if i was Brooks , Moses or Teddy.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone that Farah , Lawrence and Galloway are way past it but don't blame them for there Contracts that were signed for whatever amount of money it was or the amount of years that were offered to them .

So no one have a whinge next year when Taupau announces he has signed with another Club cause it's a Business right ? that is the message our Club is trying to tell us all , don't get sentiments with players it's a Business.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Still cant get over how stupid the decision in letting Robbie go has been. Basically being told to look for another club after being the heart and soul of this club for OVER 10 YEARS suggests why his form has been down this year. Disheartened with a lack of loyalty shown by the club to a player who is our genuine match winner.

Well done Wests Tigers you basket case

If what you say is true… It highlights his attitude... One of spitting the dummy and sooking.... Rather than having some personal pride and giving it everything he's got in his possibly final year.
If what you say is true of course.
Lack of loyalty is ironic given the way he was with Potter

Exactly! Compare and contrast his recent performance to that of Chris Lawrence. He has truly busted a gut to regain his value to the team and earn his pay check.

 

[jirskyr]

Let's not get to carried away ..short memories Farah destroyed the team and a mans career last season because the ego was bigger than the club ,good luck to him poor old Robbie.

Do you know this for a fact, or is it just mad speculation?

 

[NT_Tiger]

….....Why shouldn't emotion come into business decisions? Who said business must always be cold and calculating?

Do you reckon all the top businesses and business leaders run on nothing but cold hard logic? Do you think there isn't room for emotion, gut feelings, loyalty, camaraderie?

What's the point of HR or personnel development if you don't care about the emotion of decisions.

Nope, too much a cliche for me.

In the light of this post, examine Robbies role in the Potter saga. No tears here.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

i wrote an email a few weeks ago and told them if taupau goes then i will not renew my membership.i will keep my word on this.i accept that farahs time is up and the money he is getting is too much for a 31 year old but taupau is young and an outstanding young talent.if he goes to souths then i will not watch any more games live.i will do it from my living room.

And in sure they'd have deleted saying "well nice knowing you". Seriously what kind of supporter writes this kind of email. He's going to be one of the hottest players on the market next yr for gods sake. The club can only do so much if 10 others are chasing him.

 

[jirskyr]

As for Moltzen, he should be grateful that WT basically paid him dole money for the last 3 or so seasons.

In fairness to Moltzen, he had two major knee injuries playing/training for us, after we maneuvered sharply to keep him here in light of the Rob Lui situation.

He may have gone on to enjoy a fruitful first grade career with Saints, but we wanted him to stay for our own selfish reasons.

Can't knock a bloke for that.

 

[TrueTiger]

Short time pain…....for long time gain....

Fairdinkum,it wasn't long ago club supporters had a gut full of the we against them factions we had in the place,that was sorted and some stability finally comes to the place and the very ones we have to sort out the years of boys club debacle rubbish are the ones we want to bag the crap out of....Robbie thought he was bigger than the club,as much as he was good earlier in his career,it nose dived once Sheens was shown the door,he hasn't been the same bloke since...think about it...

If we want a decent WTs team and club,hard decisions have to be made....some don't like to hear Robbie is being moved on,others do...me,I think his form for us speaks volumes about his loyalty and interest in the club in recent years....I didn't like Potter being moved on,but it was a decision made and we had to move on...

This new board,coaching staff and admin haven't even had a decent shot at cleaning the years of rubbish at this club...and everyone wants to call for their heads,youth,inexperience and immaturity are what we have,it's time for them to stand up and be counted,same goes for the board ,recruitment and coaching staff.....

We need Pride,Integrity and Proffessionalism ....it has to start somewhere and now would be a very apt time to make some progress...
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Side note ....emotions do run high at times,and it easy to let emotions stand in the way of progress....let's not let it happen now,let's move forward with a new clean slate,if the management do make poor choices,then I'm sure they will pay in some form,but they have been put in place to make these choices....keep the ball rolling... :sign:

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I do find it ironic that a significant bunch of forummers run the line "it's business, take the emotion out", but they will jump up and down watching the game this weekend, happy as Larry if we win and very disappointed if we lose.

So watching the team play is an emotional experience, but the makeup of the team is not? You don't care who it is representing us, so long as they are wearing a WT jersey?

I don't like this decision one bit. I understand the explanation, but I don't support it. Farah's had maybe two ordinary half-seasons in 10 years and some supporters are so quick to see the back of him, because he is 31 and we are running last. We have two state-rep players and we are ready to offload one of them because someone decided to pay him a bit too much money a few years ago.

I also fear that this is the action of a new board / coach / GM that wants to sure up it's own position at the expense of a player. Why not get rid of a stalwart if it buys you a few more years in the job?

For all those who are happy that Farah might leave: I hope you are ready for the backlash if Farah comes roaring back into form in another set of NRL colours.

Trust you to twist things to suit your argument..irony indeed
. You are the king of this.
Of course emotion is involved…. It's why were all here... But emotion shouldn't come into business decisions with a view to the future from the clubs point of view

Why shouldn't emotion come into business decisions? Who said business must always be cold and calculating?

Do you reckon all the top businesses and business leaders run on nothing but cold hard logic? Do you think there isn't room for emotion, gut feelings, loyalty, camaraderie?

What's the point of HR or personnel development if you don't care about the emotion of decisions.

Nope, too much a cliche for me.

Emotion should be considered, but it should not be the only defining factor in making business decisions. If it were, you'd never see people being laid off before Christmas, after 20 years of service or while they're struggling financially.

Saying that the emotion should have been the defining factor in this decision is the opposite extreme of the spectrum.

RE: previous administration signing him on a big deal. A common theme with this forum over this season has been that the current administration throws too much blame back on to previous administrations while throwing their hands up in the air and taking little responsibility themselves. Well, it looks like they're taking responsibility now and trying to remedy the situation. All things considered they feel this is the best move for the club. It might be the best move for Farah as well if he is not happy playing under Taylor. I am actually happy to see the club backing the coach for a change. It is a tragedy that Potter did not get the same courtesy.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

What's the point of HR or personnel development if you don't care about the emotion of decisions.

So it looks like the business cares.

 

[Newtown]

If you live by the sword you die by the sword.

 

[philgood]

Still cant get over how stupid the decision in letting Robbie go has been. Basically being told to look for another club after being the heart and soul of this club for OVER 10 YEARS suggests why his form has been down this year. Disheartened with a lack of loyalty shown by the club to a player who is our genuine match winner.

Well done Wests Tigers you basket case

If what you say is true… It highlights his attitude... One of spitting the dummy and sooking.... Rather than having some personal pride and giving it everything he's got in his possibly final year.
If what you say is true of course.
Lack of loyalty is ironic given the way he was with Potter

Benji is a player who spat the dummy…clearly dis interested and obvious lack of effort when Potter benched him. The effort from Robbie is still there, but the execution is not what it has been in previous seasons.

Your dislike for Robbie is obvious

 

[barra]

Yeah i agree League is a Business i get all that…..but the lack of respect shown to **players like Farah , Lawrence and Galloway when still having Contracts with us to now being asked they can look elsewhere won't sit well with some players in our current side .
Just don't cry if in 2 years players like Brooks , Moses and Tedesco leave to other Clubs ? why be loyal it's Business right ? that is exactly how i would be treating it if i was Brooks , Moses or Teddy.**

I'm not disagreeing with anyone that Farah , Lawrence and Galloway are way past it but don't blame them for there Contracts that were signed for whatever amount of money it was or the amount of years that were offered to them .

So no one have a whinge next year when Taupau announces he has signed with another Club cause it's a Business right ? that is the message our Club is trying to tell us all , don't get sentiments with players it's a Business.

FT I understand what you are saying but I think that without any inside knowledge it's wasted time and energy trying to interpret what the other players are thinking. The club may well have sat them down already and talked to them about it. Who knows.

Not trying to single you out mate, your comments are similar to others before you in the thread.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Quite simple really. The million $$ can be spent better elsewhere. Nrl so brutal now at his age and amount of tackling he's down he's banged up. He doesn't have the pace out off dummy half he once had ( which was his main strength). Cheerington has to be given opportunity or we lose him. Club doing a great job moving on Galloway/Richards/moltzen/ Lawrence ( hopefully). Maybe now we might be able to do some much needed recruitment.

The 1.2 million dollars that we are going to pay the two under performing halves next year, could also be spent better as well but no. We'll keep them no matter how bad they play, along with Lovett and Sirro. Not to mention Taylor and his crackpot coaching ideas.
Actually I hope the rumour( probably started by the board and Taylor) that he's going to Souths is true. At least he'l be in a team that he doesn't have to carry , like he's had to here for years, and wil have a chance of another Premiership( again , unlike here).

 

[barra]

What can the WT's possibly think that this call will actually do at this stage ??

No club in the NRL could afford his full salary now

He will want to stay to continue playing NRL because of SOO

The only possible way this could have worked was making this call June /July

We will end up paying half his contract at another club until 2017

And Cherrington isn't ready yet defensively

Happy that's assuming Robbie will get picked for SOO next year and I'm not so sure about that.

But one thing I am sure of is that with Keith and Robbie both gone, we'd better get a couple of good big defenders to take up the slack. We can't hide three small young guys in our defensive line.

Big Willie anyone?

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

The 1.2 million dollars that we are going to pay the two under performing halves next year, could also be spent better as well but no. We'll keep them no matter how bad they play, along with Lovett and Sirro.

Pretty simple, Brooks, Moses, Sironen and Lovett are more likely to have their best game in front of them, whereas Farah's best match is blatantly behind him. Further, these young players will be under as much pressure as anyone to perform in years to come.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

….....Why shouldn't emotion come into business decisions? Who said business must always be cold and calculating?

Do you reckon all the top businesses and business leaders run on nothing but cold hard logic? Do you think there isn't room for emotion, gut feelings, loyalty, camaraderie?

What's the point of HR or personnel development if you don't care about the emotion of decisions.

Nope, too much a cliche for me.

In the light of this post, examine Robbies role in the Potter saga. No tears here.

What ? The fact that he reiterated till he was blue in the face that he supported him, how many times did he have to say it, but of course , some forum members know better.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

A **hard decision** has been made by wests-tigers.
As a supporter whether you like it or not a decision has been made.
We do not know what goes on behind the scenes at Concord.

Bottom line it appears to be a business decision, and wests-tigers will constantly judged / come under a lot of scrutiny to see if it was the correct one or not.

Exactly. You don't move a club legend on a whim. I'm willing to bet this decision was laboured over for a while.

I have faith that the decision was made with some recruitment decisions in mind.

You have faith in Taylor and this board, after they retained Lovettand the rest of this years debacle,
You've got to be kidding

 

[rex2ce]

By his own admission, Benji went stale at WT, maybe Farah feels the same, Good luck for the future Robbie and thanks for the memories