Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Masterton]

Unfortunately it also means that no club is likely to want him. Can you imagine how quickly every other club would have moved heaven and earth to make an offer if smith, JWH, thurston, Tedesco, S.Burgess, Folau or players like that came on the market? Farah is NSW SoO captain and no club has really tried for him. Very telling.

I think a few teams would be happy to have him, but he has said that he would want to go to a Sydney-based team in premiership contention. So, a lot of teams with hooker needs are ruled out (Newcastle, Gold Coast, possibly Canberra). And a few good Sydney teams already have decent hookers (Dogs, Roosters).

To me, Souths like the only strong possibility. I think they know that and will be lowballing us.

 

[Telltails]

The way I see it is that Farah thinks that he has been made a scapegoat by Taylor for his own failure in bringing on the young players and the team to a level better than equal last. If it was just a salary cap issue I think he would have grudgingly accepted it. But according to Farah and others, he has played to the coaches instructions and has not caused any trouble even the though the halves have been frustrated by Taylors coaching and voiced there concerns to Farah - call it TAYLOR ball . Because Taylor has the full support of the board and they are supposedly not involved in this decision other that to back what the coach tells them - Farah wants Taylor in front of the board to state exactly his reasons for wanting him out so he can defend himself if in fact Taylor has misrepresented Farahs actions. Even the most ardent Farah haters can surely admit that paying Farah out, and losing a quality player has no benefit to the club at all and or team morale if he is innocent of any wrong doing. This appears to be totally personal and hope for our teams sake that they improve quickly next year under Taylor because if Farah is innocent of any wrong doing and the players are aware of it, this action is quite likely to have a domino effect right through the playing squad. It appears that FARAH may have fallen victim to his own reputation. Just hope the board wise up if TAYLOR continues to not produce the goods next year.

 

[851]

Further to Telltails post, not all as it seems.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/now-time-for-some-hard-thinking-for-wests-tigers-man-robbie-farah-20150905-gjfy6l.html
Now time for some hard thinking for Wests Tigers man Robbie Farah
Date
September 5, 2015 - 10:00PM

Danny Weidler
Danny Weidler
Sport columnist

Robbie Farah was so browbeaten going into Origin I that he doubted he had the ability to play – let alone lead the side in the absence of Paul Gallen.

Farah had been trying to play the way Jason Taylor wanted him to – dumping his style and pet plays to conform with the coach. The result was a complete loss of confidence.

Farah was being used to shovel the ball to the halves and to tackle. It was like leaving the Ferrari in the garage and driving your Nissan Tiida every day.

He didn't want to rock the boat with Taylor – he was still scarred by the Mick Potter episode where he was unfairly blamed for the coach's demise. The more Farah toed the line the worse his form got. It got to the point where Farah was riddled with self-doubt.

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The first person he sought out in Origin camp was mind guru Garie Dooley. He booked in a time to get his head right. He also had long discussions with Laurie Daley and his assistant Matt Parish and they set him straight.

He felt loved by the Blues and Farah found form as he led NSW – but all along in the back of his mind he was desperately unhappy about what was taking place in clubland. He sat down with Taylor and asked him to help him recapture his form. Taylor said he was unhappy with his leadership and Farah offered to quit. During those conversations Taylor labelled Farah selfish. Other players were confiding in Farah – not all of them front-liners – that they were not happy with their relationship with Taylor.

The coach was standing firm on all his decisions. At that point Farah was ready to walk away from at least the last year of his contract – he wanted one more good season with the club before heading to England and seeing the world.

Taylor made the call on the day after the last Origin that Robbie was ready to go on his world tour now. Taylor insists to this minute that he has player support and that of the board. The story I'm hearing is that Taylor has not talked to the players about the drama.

The players have talked among themselves and have Farah in their hearts. Taylor would not agree – he is of the view that no players have fronted him to complain.

The coach has copped it from all areas since the decision to dump a club legend– but don't expect a repeat of the Mad Monday drama that ended his career at Souths.

An inexperienced Taylor went out drinking with his team and was floored by David Fa'alogo at the Forresters. It was a blow that landed him in coaching wilderness. By the time you read this most of the players will be well on their way to enjoying their end-of-season drink. Taylor will be having a drink with the coaching staff. He has learnt from the previous experience.

Farah, meanwhile, needs to think in coming days about staying put and enduring a toxic year with a coach he doesn't respect or playing a season elsewhere and ruining his dream of being a one-club player.

When the dust settles Farah knows he will have to entertain offers – there is no question a strong club like Souths is a priority. Incoming Knights coach Nathan Brown has already made a public pitch for Farah. Brown is an old hooker who played with flair and he formed a bond with Farah during the Origin campaign. The Knights will also have Blues half Trent Hodkinson in their ranks.
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[innsaneink]

Wow…using Weidler now Robbie??
Desperate times

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Wow…using Weidler now Robbie??
Desperate times

It's the Robbie way, he has always used the media as a last resort to get his own way.

Issue is the club has had enough and won't be putting up with it.

Can't wait to see the cancer finally be removed from the ranks.

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[Telltails]

Wow…using Weidler now Robbie??
Desperate times

Peed off more like it. Farah likely to end up in in a much better position with out this club, than with it. Not sure we are going to be much better off - cant see where we are going to improve by offloading players and not replace them. Hope I am wrong.

 

[tig_prmz]

Further to Telltails post, not all as it seems.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/now-time-for-some-hard-thinking-for-wests-tigers-man-robbie-farah-20150905-gjfy6l.html
Now time for some hard thinking for Wests Tigers man Robbie Farah
Date
September 5, 2015 - 10:00PM

Danny Weidler
Danny Weidler
Sport columnist

Robbie Farah was so browbeaten going into Origin I that he doubted he had the ability to play – let alone lead the side in the absence of Paul Gallen.

Farah had been trying to play the way Jason Taylor wanted him to – dumping his style and pet plays to conform with the coach. The result was a complete loss of confidence.

Farah was being used to shovel the ball to the halves and to tackle. It was like leaving the Ferrari in the garage and driving your Nissan Tiida every day.

He didn't want to rock the boat with Taylor – he was still scarred by the Mick Potter episode where he was unfairly blamed for the coach's demise. The more Farah toed the line the worse his form got. It got to the point where Farah was riddled with self-doubt.

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The first person he sought out in Origin camp was mind guru Garie Dooley. He booked in a time to get his head right. He also had long discussions with Laurie Daley and his assistant Matt Parish and they set him straight.

He felt loved by the Blues and Farah found form as he led NSW – but all along in the back of his mind he was desperately unhappy about what was taking place in clubland. He sat down with Taylor and asked him to help him recapture his form. Taylor said he was unhappy with his leadership and Farah offered to quit. During those conversations Taylor labelled Farah selfish. Other players were confiding in Farah – not all of them front-liners – that they were not happy with their relationship with Taylor.

The coach was standing firm on all his decisions. At that point Farah was ready to walk away from at least the last year of his contract – he wanted one more good season with the club before heading to England and seeing the world.

Taylor made the call on the day after the last Origin that Robbie was ready to go on his world tour now. Taylor insists to this minute that he has player support and that of the board. The story I'm hearing is that Taylor has not talked to the players about the drama.

The players have talked among themselves and have Farah in their hearts. Taylor would not agree – he is of the view that no players have fronted him to complain.

The coach has copped it from all areas since the decision to dump a club legend– but don't expect a repeat of the Mad Monday drama that ended his career at Souths.

An inexperienced Taylor went out drinking with his team and was floored by David Fa'alogo at the Forresters. It was a blow that landed him in coaching wilderness. By the time you read this most of the players will be well on their way to enjoying their end-of-season drink. Taylor will be having a drink with the coaching staff. He has learnt from the previous experience.

Farah, meanwhile, needs to think in coming days about staying put and enduring a toxic year with a coach he doesn't respect or playing a season elsewhere and ruining his dream of being a one-club player.

When the dust settles Farah knows he will have to entertain offers – there is no question a strong club like Souths is a priority. Incoming Knights coach Nathan Brown has already made a public pitch for Farah. Brown is an old hooker who played with flair and he formed a bond with Farah during the Origin campaign. The Knights will also have Blues half Trent Hodkinson in their ranks.
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THIS IS LOW LOW LOOWWWWWWW from farah.

i was half half admittedly regarding all this but after seeing his constant pr stunts- robbie, you've dug a big hole for yourself. i hope the club counter sues him for bringing this crap on.

watta bloody idiot

 

[tig_prmz]

gotta say though, the club has conducted themselves in the best manner. they've tried to show respect to a moron wherever possible. things may have been said in the heat of the moment, but they've behaved in the utmost manner when it comes to the media.

robbie on the other hand…

 

[Black_Orange_White]

Robbie being Robbie, but at least some people are finally seeing through his act.

 

[stryker]

LOL you guys just dont get how stuff like this works.
tig-prmz…youre ignorance is staggering. I assume you are only young?
When you are making tough decisions, you use whatever is available to strengthen your case.

Taylor used the board, Farah used the media. The score is 1 all.

 

[tig_prmz]

lol you're the one saying it's farah vs taylor.

you think it's all taylor making these calls?

admittedly, idk how stuff like this works though so why dont you enlighten me?

 

[stryker]

Wow…using Weidler now Robbie??
Desperate times

It's the Robbie way, he has always used the media as a last resort to get his own way.

Issue is the club has had enough and won't be putting up with it.

Can't wait to see the cancer finally be removed from the ranks.

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Classy post.
Calling a club legend a cancer.
I look forward to reading your posts next year calling Brooks a coward or Moses braindead or Tedesco selfish. People like you always need a scapegoat…can you let us in on who it will be please?

 

[stryker]

lol you're the one saying it's farah vs taylor.

you think it's all taylor making these calls?

admittedly, idk how stuff like this works though so why dont you enlighten me?

When power plays in any organisation take place the warfare is dirty. Do you think the billionaires of the world got to where they are because they are nice people?

Taylor sold a mentality of how he would turn the club around. Version 1 hasnt worked so he used a different tact to buy himself time. Farah was outplayed on a management level in the boardroom. His recourse is to use emotion through the media. Its all a game.

I would suggest the end result will be Taylor will get the squad he asked for (young talent with malleable minds) however it will be without the spare cash to buy experienced talent and Farah will get a huge payday with a spot on a better roster, however his dream of being a one club player will be over.

Had this been handled better they both would have got what they wanted with a lessened negative impact to their respective goals.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Wow…using Weidler now Robbie??
Desperate times

It's the Robbie way, he has always used the media as a last resort to get his own way.

Issue is the club has had enough and won't be putting up with it.

Can't wait to see the cancer finally be removed from the ranks.

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Classy post.
Calling a club legend a cancer.
I look forward to reading your posts next year calling Brooks a coward or Moses braindead or Tedesco selfish. People like you always need a scapegoat…can you let us in on who it will be please?

He is a legend but it doesn't mean we should ignore what he has done both on and off the park over the years.

It's no secret what he has done in getting what he wants rather than what the club and other players want.

As to the other crap in your post, I don't look for scapegoats, most of this year I have been defending the kids.

Robbie isn't a scapegoat he is getting his just rewards for past deeds in which he used for getting his own way. Enough is enough if we want a professional club our captain needs to act professionally as well instead of a spoilt little brat who is chucking his toys out of the cot because he didn't get his own way

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[tigertye]

Farah is using the only thing he can to protect himself and that is the media and the fans. The coach won't back him and the board is backing the coach. The guy wants to stay and retire as the first one club player. He doesn't want to wear any other clubs colours in Australia.

It's also important to note that there are no quotes from the media from Farah, they're just rehashing the same drama because it's the biggest story at the current moment. Robbie hasn't changed his story and I think he's owed the respect for an explanation of why this is all happening and not just sold BS salary cap reasons from the board. Especially because of the amount of money the club will need to pay to move him on would be basically pointless and we would still be paying a huge chunk of his salary for the next year or two anyway.

Honestly, the way he has been treated has made me question the integrity of this club big time. It's not his fault that the previous admin back ended his deal which he agreed to to help the club out in the first place.

Keep digging your heels in Robbie!

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[stryker]

It's funny how the media are eating this up. They're being used as the biggest tools in Farrah's pr campaign and they just keep milking the story for more. I guess what ever sells papers. But honestly farah needs his barrister to hear why he is being let go. I don't think iv ever heard of anything like this before. Wow. This bloke has been given the tap on the shoulder there's no need to know why, he is getting paid out so there should be no issue just find another club. Sorry I forgot no one else wants him I wonder why. I'll give Robbie a hint why the club are letting him go it's because he feels the need to call a barrister to hear the reasons why he has been tapped in the shoulder. What a grade A sook. He has been strangling this club for far too long. Everyone knows he is responsible for sheens and potter, even if they were or weren't any good it's not Robbie's job to do or say anything. Robbie one word for you KARMA. Now go take some cement and harden up you sook.

Spot on,"liltiger'" .. and its not like they are not going to pay him. Once he goes we can go forward.

Yes because they have such a great history of sorting out payments to players….

 

[cqtiger]

Well, lets try for 100 pages

My position on all of this is:

JT coaching - he spoke about new structures and improved defence. That got me on board. Choosing Kidwell as defensive coach confused me.

The taylorball stuff? I think, but not really sure, that he was trying to get the guys into a defensive attitude, mindset. Get past halfway, bomb and defend hard to keep them in their end. It didn't work with this team, they don't have that type of mentality.

Robbie saga - I honestly was surprised by the announcement and I truly felt for him. The stories coming out now that RF tried to do it JT's way for half a year but then gave up? Well discuss with the coach but if you don't get your way, don't white ant him. Does this give truth to past rumours about former coaches?

Now Robbie doesn't like the outcome of not being a one team player. Why go on the Footy show at all, but then not say a word? Why get a barrister? Why drag the club that you love down? Very much like a marriage I suppose.

The board - they did say after appointing JT that they would support him 100%. They are doing that.

The cap - well a lot of key players were let go early with very little fuss. Pattie and Keefy too with little fuss. Robbie's departure really got people talking and talking and talking. I can see that there are 2 points to RF's going 1\. Obviously another team paying part of his contract frees up some money 2\. It now appears, right or wrong, that Robbie's influence over all or part of the team is the main driver behind this decision.

What happens now?
Much like a marriage, there comes a time when you just have to accept that it's over and move on.

All I know is that I will put up with whatever happens next year, good or bad. It's in my blood.

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[stryker]

Wow…using Weidler now Robbie??
Desperate times

It's the Robbie way, he has always used the media as a last resort to get his own way.

Issue is the club has had enough and won't be putting up with it.

Can't wait to see the cancer finally be removed from the ranks.

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Classy post.
Calling a club legend a cancer.
I look forward to reading your posts next year calling Brooks a coward or Moses braindead or Tedesco selfish. People like you always need a scapegoat…can you let us in on who it will be please?

He is a legend but it doesn't mean we should ignore what he has done both on and off the park over the years.

It's no secret what he has done in getting what he wants rather than what the club and other players want.

As to the other crap in your post, I don't look for scapegoats, most of this year I have been defending the kids.

Robbie isn't a scapegoat he is getting his just rewards for past deeds in which he used for getting his own way. Enough is enough if we want a professional club our captain needs to act professionally as well instead of a spoilt little brat who is chucking his toys out of the cot because he didn't get his own way

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According to you, what is "his own way"?
I see a guy who followed orders of coaching staff, accepted a pay cut to alleviate cap strain under the priviso he would be reimbursed at a later date, was prepared to relinquish the captaincy he so coverted, and even talked about trying to find middle ground by leaving his contract a year early. He has been told to move on at a stage of the year when most squads have finalised their 2016 rosters despite the fact he is legally contracted for 2 more years.

He didnt start this so please enlighten me…how is he throwing a tanty to get his own way?

 

[Flippedy]

It's the Robbie way, he has always used the media as a last resort to get his own way.

Issue is the club has had enough and won't be putting up with it.

Can't wait to see the cancer finally be removed from the ranks.

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Classy post.
Calling a club legend a cancer.
I look forward to reading your posts next year calling Brooks a coward or Moses braindead or Tedesco selfish. People like you always need a scapegoat…can you let us in on who it will be please?

He is a legend but it doesn't mean we should ignore what he has done both on and off the park over the years.

It's no secret what he has done in getting what he wants rather than what the club and other players want.

As to the other crap in your post, I don't look for scapegoats, most of this year I have been defending the kids.

Robbie isn't a scapegoat he is getting his just rewards for past deeds in which he used for getting his own way. Enough is enough if we want a professional club our captain needs to act professionally as well instead of a spoilt little brat who is chucking his toys out of the cot because he didn't get his own way

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According to you, what is "his own way"?
I see a guy who followed orders of coaching staff, accepted a pay cut to alleviate cap strain under the priviso he would be reimbursed at a later date, was prepared to relinquish the captaincy he so coverted, and even talked about trying to find middle ground by leaving his contract a year early. He has been told to move on at a stage of the year when most squads have finalised their 2016 rosters despite the fact he is legally contracted for 2 more years.

He didnt start this so please enlighten me…how is he throwing a tanty to get his own way?

:righton: Perspective is everything!

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

LOL you guys just dont get how stuff like this works.
tig-prmz…youre ignorance is staggering. I assume you are only young?
When you are making tough decisions, you use whatever is available to strengthen your case.

Taylor used the board, Farah used the media. The score is 1 all.

You're dead rightStryker.
Just because the club says they'll pay him , it means nothing until the money is in the bank. We're not talking about being underpaid a hundred bucks in your pay at work , it's over two million bucks, just look at what's happened at Parra, they needed a tickle up from a lawyer to sort out money owed to the Coach.
He's still the Coach , and will not be ostracised because he involved a lawyer.
Lawyers are involved in contract matters much more than some here think.

I can only see this finishing in one of four ways.
The club can fully pay him out right now.
He walks away, and can go and play with any club that's interested and suits him. And there will be clubs . No club in their right mind needs to do anything at this moment, as the longer this goes into the off season, Wests will be more and more desperate to get some of his money back. And his price will drop. If they pay it out, he's free to do what ever he wants, unless there's a clause where he doesn't play( which he wouldn't be likely to accept
The club loses. But Taylor happy. Farah gets his contract money and can negotiate with any one he wants

He can stay : and the club plays him in NSWCup, the club looks more and more ridiculous as the season goes on . Especially , if as it's probable , Taylor's coaching is the same rubbish that he's shown this year .
Still a possibility that he'll play Origin. The coach wants him if his form warrants it , despite a story that it would be unlikely to happen , (the precedent has been set with players being selected from the reserves or SL. )
end result:
Taylor Pissed off for not getting his way. Robbie still gets his the money that he's owed
The club & team loses.but the Nsw Cup team probably wins the comp.
which is probably as close as we will get to a premiership in the next three or four years

He can agree with the club , to go to another Club now , and the club will get a fraction of his money in return.
End result : Robbie still gets his contracted money, Taylor ecstatic , the club still loses, won't get much of their money back . Are in trouble if the next hooker in line is injured of can't handle a full season, and still has a probably the worst coach in the NRl
Or
He staysvwith WTs and helps Cherrington to get used to more time in the top grade then moves on next season ,
End Result: if arranged early enough, the club will probably get more financial return from SL , Cherrington doesn't get thrown in full time before he's ready, Robbie goes out as he should, club looks better to everyone, . Taylor doesn't matter as he wont last the full season anyway. And HT may have stopped fuming enough to help the club financially again
Win Win. Isn't that the same deal that Robbies manager and the club agreed to in the beginning, before Taylor rang Souths