Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[rex2ce]

I am still thinking compromise will be the outcome here, Farah plays first grade 2016 with lesser minutes than Cherrington who will still start off the bench.CL will be given the captaincy 2016, Farah goes to Super League in 2017, 12 months should be a reasonable amount of time for him to arrange a suitable club as opposed to what he was given at the end of this season.
People are quick to direct hate at Farah, usually based on rumour, forgetting that he has been a stalwart of our club for many years, the fact that he was generous enough to take a substantial pay deferment to help the club a couple of years ago, has now come back to bite him on the bum as he is being looked at like a pariah because he has stuck up for himself and hasn't walked.

Great, 900K a year to play 30 mins a week without any responsibility. May as well play without him.

Ok CB my thoughts are obviously not correct from your point of view, what do you suggest, may I remind you we have to pay him no matter what

 

[fibrodreaming]

If Farah stays Taylor has a chance of keeping his job. If Farah goes we will run between 10-16th next year with the roster. Taylor won't be coach if we are not solidly in the top 8 next year. You dot get 3 years in this game to make the finals.

The only hope is Farah stays and plays the house down to prove a point and units the club with performances that are top drawer.

It's amazing that you can see that so clearly TYGA, but that JT doesn't. He seems to believe his only chance of succeeding as a coach with the WT is to move Robbie on.

How could JT be so wrong about what is required for him to succeed with the WT?

 

[foreveratiger]

Many questions would be answered if Farah left and went to another Club in terms of getting some answers of Taylor's Coaching .

I honestly think Farah is better of leaving after this whole debacle as things stand it is a very Toxic situation to be in for all parties concerned .
This has also become a personal thing between Farah and Taylor rather than what's in the best interest of the Club moving forward as Farah feels the need he has a right to stand his ground and fight for what he believes.
For the sake of prolonging his Career and playing behind a more experienced forward Pack it's maybe in his best interest to leave and prove some people wrong .
By him staying put will only bring scrutiny for himself as there will be the haters that will call him a sook , selfish and whatever else they feel is appropriate.
If Farah goes the pressure on Taylor will be immense as some questions will be answered
If the players are playing for there Coach ?
Has our game improved since Farah has been gone ?
Has the camaraderie amongst the players improved ?
Was Farah the problem after all ?
All these questions won't be answered until Farah is gone .

I think everyone can agree that Farah is no way worth what his getting and i do agree his best is past him . The thing that got up my nose was the manner it was done and handled that disgusted me as a Supporter , it's not Farah's fault for the Contract that was signed at the time .
In saying all that i'm sure Farah ain't a Saint himself ( where there is smoke there's fire ) and without knowing all the true facts it's hard to know the truth to it all .

If Farah leaves well Jason Taylor won't have no where to hide and will need to prove that he can Coach these kids to being Competitive , anyone that understands the game can tell a Coaches game plan and that's what i have seen from him this year that has led me to believe that he hasn't got it as a Coach.
To be fair to him though he hasn't been able to purchase a quality player that he has desired and has walked into a Salary Cap shamazle .

We will know once Farah goes and during next year if Taylor has the respect from the players and if they want to play for him only then we should be able to put the Jigsaw pieces together .
Until JT can prove to me and many others that he has what it takes to be Coaching in the NRL level my opinion will remain the same from what i have seen this year .
For this very reason i'm intrigued to see Farah gone for the sake of getting some questions answered
, he will still receive his Contract money so i say let it happen and lets see how Taylor goes .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I am still thinking compromise will be the outcome here, Farah plays first grade 2016 with lesser minutes than Cherrington who will still start off the bench.CL will be given the captaincy 2016, Farah goes to Super League in 2017, 12 months should be a reasonable amount of time for him to arrange a suitable club as opposed to what he was given at the end of this season.
People are quick to direct hate at Farah, usually based on rumour, forgetting that he has been a stalwart of our club for many years, the fact that he was generous enough to take a substantial pay deferment to help the club a couple of years ago, has now come back to bite him on the bum as he is being looked at like a pariah because he has stuck up for himself and hasn't walked.

Great, 900K a year to play 30 mins a week without any responsibility. May as well play without him.

Ok CB my thoughts are obviously not correct from your point of view, what do you suggest, may I remind you we have to pay him no matter what

Nah I wasn't having a shot at you, apologies if it came across that way. I must admit you have more ideas than I do, I was just demonstrating my frustration at the situation. I just don't see the value in the club keeping him if he isn't going to play full time and even then we're not getting true value. I understand he signed a contract etc, but the situation is terminal and beyond repair. At least playing with another club they will take on some of the cap to sign him, even if only a fraction.

 

[happy_tiger]

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There is a story on Akauola in the herald, he mentions how Farah looked after him when he was feeling depressed, along with Keithy and Halatau made sure he didn't do anything silly.
He said the coach kept playing him in the halves and he is not a half, he felt like he was letting his team mates down, he is gone to penrith hoping for a fresh start.
But there is another story in the article about how the Weststigers board were told Farah would have no trouble finding a club, and Farah was disliked by other players, neither of these proved true.
So the board made a decision based on these so called facts, which presumably were presented by Taylor, and they were lies.
This makes me think Farah going to Bali was a ploy to get the club to ask the hard questions of Taylor, and why he mislead them.

Also mentions how JT asked Halatau to keep and eye on him and report back so he could make sure Sitaleki was ok as the club was worried about him.

Also what proof do you see in that article that Farah is having trouble finding a club (and if he is do you wonder why ?). Also as for Farah being disliked by other players i've not seen this mentioned by the club as being a reason but I have heard from friends who are personal mates from school of a couple of players that some of our other stars think Robbie isn't thier favourtie person. Yes some came out and supported him when this happened but amny said nothing and what else could others say when asked

Talk about tit for tat.

Guess what? I work in an environment where there is over 100 employees and you think everyone likes each other? NO not everyone but we are paid Professionals to do our job at hand. Some are so concerned who likes Robbie and who doesn't…...big deal.
It's human nature that not every player gets along with every one of there team mates it's right across the NRL.

Ask your friends who know him personally about who asked there Agents to look elsewhere for them cause of Jason Taylor mid year and PM me those players if you think your info is correct on what your saying of the hate players have for Farah.

Soon all this will be sorted and so will Pasty face, it's only a matter of time.

Just wishful thinking on your part FT.

Whatever you reckon…the people that really know me here know what I'm on about.

Nup

Geo ,Hobbo and myself have no idea what your talking about :wink:

So where Farah going now

Warriors ,Brisbane or the Cowboys ??

 

[TYGA]

If Farah stays Taylor has a chance of keeping his job. If Farah goes we will run between 10-16th next year with the roster. Taylor won't be coach if we are not solidly in the top 8 next year. You dot get 3 years in this game to make the finals.

The only hope is Farah stays and plays the house down to prove a point and units the club with performances that are top drawer.

It's amazing that you can see that so clearly TYGA, but that JT doesn't. He seems to believe his only chance of succeeding as a coach with the WT is to move Robbie on.

How could JT be so wrong about what is required for him to succeed with the WT?

JT is a power freak that believes his structure will deliver results and personnel are not important.
He is the NRL's Chip Kelly. Good coaches play to their strengths and attack their opponents weaknesses.
We do the opposite we are built for speed and play a forward dominated game where we get pumped.
Take Tedesco out of the Tigers (who'm farah replaced) and we struggle to win a game.
I am baffled that fans can't see how bad his coaching performance is.

 

[jirskyr]

4 more pages team… 142 is a forum record?

 

[Granto87]

Board meeting suposedly tonight re Farah source was MMM article on sight cant post on my phone.

 

[sheer64]

4 more pages team… 142 is a forum record?

 

[Tigerspirit]

If Farah stays Taylor has a chance of keeping his job. If Farah goes we will run between 10-16th next year with the roster. Taylor won't be coach if we are not solidly in the top 8 next year. You dot get 3 years in this game to make the finals.

The only hope is Farah stays and plays the house down to prove a point and units the club with performances that are top drawer.

It's amazing that you can see that so clearly TYGA, but that JT doesn't. He seems to believe his only chance of succeeding as a coach with the WT is to move Robbie on.

How could JT be so wrong about what is required for him to succeed with the WT?

JT is a power freak that believes his structure will deliver results and personnel are not important.
He is the NRL's Chip Kelly. Good coaches play to their strengths and attack their opponents weaknesses.
We do the opposite we are built for speed and play a forward dominated game where we get pumped.
Take Tedesco out of the Tigers (who'm farah replaced) and we struggle to win a game.
I am baffled that fans can't see how bad his coaching performance is.

Most people can see it mate, just a few being stubborn

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[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't think JT is a great coach at all. I think both need to go personally, they've both stunk the place up.

 

[innsaneink]

I don't think JT is a great coach at all. I think both need to go personally, they've both stunk the place up.

Yeh i was just thinking there is a lot of assumptions going on here.
If you happen to agree with the Farah decision… You automatically think JT is a great coach.
Small minded people creating division and cliques
Look at how divisive this forum has always been... Club is the same

 

[Newtown]

I don't think JT is a great coach at all. I think both need to go personally, they've both stunk the place up.

I agree. Both should leave and the club start afresh away from the bickering, stubbornness and petulance that is currently anchoring the club big time.

 

[Tigermama]

Cultured Bogan, your respectful response to Rex2ce is truly refreshing.
Could use more of it on here. :wink:

 

[Tigermama]

4 more pages team… 142 is a forum record?

They look so miserable. Gives me the blues. :frowning:

 

[NT_Tiger]

I don't think JT is a great coach at all. I think both need to go personally, they've both stunk the place up.

I agree that the stink flows in both directions and I don't necessarily think that Taylor has what it takes to coach this team, but for better or worse I think the Board has to stick with Taylor. If for no other reason, our recent coaching history. As others have said, Taylor has stuck his neck out a long way with this decision and he will live or die by it next season.

 

[Curaeus]

I've always thought Ayoub's proposal for another 12 months with Robbie then moving on was an ideal outcome for everyone. No legal trouble for the club, Robbie gets a full year to find a new home (could leave even sooner if someone makes him an acceptable offer before the June 30 cut off if that still applies) and possible collateral damage with other players sympathetic to Robbie's situation (reportedly the whole playing group) is minimised if not eliminated altogether. Board should exhibit a bit of leadership and tell our esteemed coach that this deal will operate and he'd just better get used to the idea

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I've always thought Ayoub's proposal for another 12 months with Robbie then moving on was an ideal outcome for everyone. No legal trouble for the club, Robbie gets a full year to find a new home (could leave even sooner if someone makes him an acceptable offer before the June 30 cut off if that still applies) and possible collateral damage with other players sympathetic to Robbie's situation (reportedly the whole playing group) is minimised if not eliminated altogether. Board should exhibit a bit of leadership and tell our esteemed coach that this deal will operate and he'd just better get used to the idea

Except it seems to have been a mutual decision by both JT and the board.

 

[Curaeus]

Still a good idea though. The Board should reconsider always assuming Robbie's still interested

 

[Telltails]

We have had three coaches in twelve years - all with less than 50% win/ loss results. They are paid to get results or at the very least show improvement. One year is probably not long enough to fairly judge Taylor but if in fact he is responsible for creating a situation that is untenable then I think the club is justified in wishing him well and saying see you later. Otherwise he should just shut up and get on with what he said he was going to do, coach the team he has got.