Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Plato]

So you would happily pay him $1.9 million dollars to go and do whatever he wants without having to even turn up for training?
I'll take that job. :laughing:

With interest if it will stop the rot. Where is Harry Stroganoff when we need him?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

So you would happily pay him $1.9 million dollars to go and do whatever he wants without having to even turn up for training?
I'll take that job. :laughing:

With interest if it will stop the rot. Where is Harry Stroganoff when we need him?

Harry caught the last train for the coast ages ago - declaring that they should be trying to keep Robbie not getting him to leave, his exact words: the coach does not want him to get involved but last week he got involved he won the game (Warriors game)

 

[supercoach]

With the NRl making this ruling,it means the outside interest for Farah will evaporate,and of course the club are not going to part with nearly two million to see the back of him. So Farah and his management have probably played their last card.

Unless the club decide to reward Farah for his outstanding service and help him secure a new club,he will be with us for at least 2016.

Get ready for plenty of spin from both the club and Farah on how they have patched things up for the sake of the club

 

[stevetiger]

That ruling is exactly my understanding of the salary cap. You can't pay someone like Inglis $20k on the books and offer him $1million under the table. Melbourne did this and it worked great but you aren't meant to do it.

 

[Telltails]

Please correct me if I have got it wrong - 1,900,000 million owed inclusive of the four hundred owed from the first two years of the contract that the club didnt pay him - so over the four year contract Farahs salary $750,000 a year there abouts. If Moses and Brooks are reportedly going to earn $600,000 next year - considering Farahs career and that he still is a rep player - time to get over what he is being paid for possibly his last big contract. Tapau reportedly on $700,000 at Manly - after having one real good year of footy - playing a third of minutes Farah plays.
Attack if you like - but it is not nearly as outrageous as it is being portrayed in my opinion.

 

[balmain boy]

That ruling is exactly my understanding of the salary cap. You can't pay someone like Inglis $20k on the books and offer him $1million under the table. Melbourne did this and it worked great but you aren't meant to do it.

Who's talking about anything under the table? We're suggessting we pay half and they pay half, or some other similar arrangement.

I agree that for example a club like Souths shouldn't be able to offer Burgess 100k (even if he agrees to such a low salary) and then have it topped up through TPAs etc. But Robbie's situation is different. His salary would appear under 2 salary caps. His full salary would be valued under the cap, nothing untoward, we're just choosing to pay for some while he's at another club. So would only the club he plays for needs to list him at his nominal value?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Please correct me if I have got it wrong - 1,900,000 million owed inclusive of the four hundred owed from the first two years of the contract that the club didnt pay him - so over the four year contract Farahs salary $750,000 a year there abouts. If Moses and Brooks are reportedly going to earn $600,000 next year - considering Farahs career and that he still is a rep player - time to get over what he is being paid for possibly his last big contract. Tapau reportedly on $700,000 at Manly - after having one real good year of footy - playing a third of minutes Farah plays.
Attack if you like - but it is not nearly as outrageous as it is being portrayed in my opinion.

That was so simple to see from Day One which is why I thought of ulterior motives on picking on Robbie - especially that (I believe) he led the tackle count. He can't help that he got slammed in SOO for that shoulder injury, that was deliberate coz Qld knew if they took him out they injury the NSW outfit and that is what happened. He tried to keep good players at the club, he never went AWL during a game like Hayne and Marshall sometimes did. I am a maggie fan but I don't want to see an old proud working class club go down. (blame the gentrification of Balmain that some of my relos are guilty of and probably the ethnics).

 

[ricksen]

(blame the gentrification of Balmain that some of my relos are guilty of and **probably the ethnics**).

what garbage

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

(blame the gentrification of Balmain that some of my relos are guilty of and **probably the ethnics**).

what garbage

I was blaming them for not playing the pokies and for supporting soccer as well - therefore leaving the Tigers a bit threadbare. As per this article from Rozelle Site thread:

Rozelle no longer right for Tigers
The sooner the fantasy of the Balmain Tigers' return to Rozelle is put to rest, the better ("Tigers may never go home", November 14-15). As stated in your article, the Tigers left the Rozelle premises because of a $23.5 million debt and they cannot afford to come back.
**The demographic of the area has changed massively. Today's residents don't waste their money on "playing the pokies" so the Tigers will be denied the income stream needed for their survival.**
The misnamed "Rozelle Village" is using this matter as a smokescreen to gain approval for yet another totally inappropriate development on the site so that it can sell it.
Leichhardt Council should not give in to the "Rozelle Village" bid for increased development space. Nor should council accept ownership of the new club premises under any circumstances. Ratepayers should not be associated in any way with this venture.
Marina Garlick Balmain

 

[jirskyr]

It's weird that the papers keep saying "Tigers can ill-afford a payout". They make it sound like we save money if Farah stays for another year rather than leaving for another club.

Farah seeing out his contract is the most expensive option available to the club. We retain his services, but must pay him every dollar entitled. Only with an early release can the total contract value be reduced, and considering we've already got 2 other hookers on the books, we are not going to need to go to market post-Farah to secure another hooker.

I thought part of moving Farah on was not just the cultural side, but to alleviate some of the back-ended contract headache that exists.

What do people think now of the super deal to keep Robbie from going to the Titans two years ago?

 

[bobo125]

Please correct me if I have got it wrong - 1,900,000 million owed inclusive of the four hundred owed from the first two years of the contract that the club didnt pay him - so over the four year contract Farahs salary $750,000 a year there abouts. If Moses and Brooks are reportedly going to earn $600,000 next year - considering Farahs career and that he still is a rep player - time to get over what he is being paid for possibly his last big contract. Tapau reportedly on $700,000 at Manly - after having one real good year of footy - playing a third of minutes Farah plays.
Attack if you like - but it is not nearly as outrageous as it is being portrayed in my opinion.

well said mate.
its amazing that peoples dislike towards someone causes them to lose sight of reality.
people hear the numbers 1.9M and flip out.
The reality is, in this business - Farah's numbers are not over the top at all.
the fact that the club has mismanaged themselves financially - from the board to the field - is why we are in this mess.
The club is now balking at his payout figure.
whilst the situation is very different to Tim Sheens, they tried that with him also.
Some of you will scream blue murder and every profanity in the book at Farah if this goes to the courts.
But seriously - take the personalities out and ask yourself what you would do if your employer owed you money as per a contract - told you to leave - told you they were going to pay you and then back flipped with "we will now do what works for us "

come one.
farah taylor all that aside.
this is just amateur hour thats spanning months now…....

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Please correct me if I have got it wrong - 1,900,000 million owed inclusive of the four hundred owed from the first two years of the contract that the club didnt pay him - so over the four year contract Farahs salary $750,000 a year there abouts. If Moses and Brooks are reportedly going to earn $600,000 next year - considering Farahs career and that he still is a rep player - time to get over what he is being paid for possibly his last big contract. Tapau reportedly on $700,000 at Manly - after having one real good year of footy - playing a third of minutes Farah plays.
Attack if you like - but it is not nearly as outrageous as it is being portrayed in my opinion.

well said mate.
its amazing that peoples dislike towards someone causes them to lose sight of reality.
people hear the numbers 1.9M and flip out.
The reality is, in this business - Farah's numbers are not over the top at all.
the fact that the club has mismanaged themselves financially - from the board to the field - is why we are in this mess.
The club is now balking at his payout figure.
whilst the situation is very different to Tim Sheens, they tried that with him also.
Some of you will scream blue murder and every profanity in the book at Farah if this goes to the courts.
But seriously - take the personalities out and ask yourself what you would do if your employer owed you money as per a contract - told you to leave - told you they were going to pay you and then back flipped with "we will now do what works for us "

come one.
farah taylor all that aside.
this is just amateur hour thats spanning months now…....

Farah should get everything he is owed. However if he is joining another club, we should not be paying him out in full and then letting him top up with another $400K (arbitrary figure there,) that his new club would offer. That's just insanity on the clubs part. If another club is offering $400K a year for two years, we should cover off the balance of the $1.9m owed.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

It's weird that the papers keep saying "Tigers can ill-afford a payout". They make it sound like we save money if Farah stays for another year rather than leaving for another club.

Farah seeing out his contract is the most expensive option available to the club. We retain his services, but must pay him every dollar entitled. Only with an early release can the total contract value be reduced, and considering we've already got 2 other hookers on the books, we are not going to need to go to market post-Farah to secure another hooker.

I thought part of moving Farah on was not just the cultural side, but to alleviate some of the back-ended contract headache that exists.

What do people think now of the super deal to keep Robbie from going to the Titans two years ago?

That what it's totally about, Money , and not paying it out.

 

[Hearmeroar]

At $950k per season Farah is overpaid. Humphreys oversaw some poor decisions, including offering Benji a similar amount and Lawrence at $600k. Humphreys was moved on because of those decisions.
I think the best outcome for the Tigers would be to find someone to pay around half of Farahs contract and both parties move on. But there is no interest in Farah for around $500k, so it won't happen. Farah wants to be a one club player and have a send off at Leichhardt so he will likely stay for 2016 and then head to Super League for 2017 and forego his contract with Tigers in return for a role with the club when he finishes in Super League.
Personally I'd rather he didn't return to the club because he doesn't have very good leadership qualities and is a divisive personality. At the moment I think we will struggle to make the top 8 next season.

 

[Telltails]

Please correct me if I have got it wrong - 1,900,000 million owed inclusive of the four hundred owed from the first two years of the contract that the club didnt pay him - so over the four year contract Farahs salary $750,000 a year there abouts. If Moses and Brooks are reportedly going to earn $600,000 next year - considering Farahs career and that he still is a rep player - time to get over what he is being paid for possibly his last big contract. Tapau reportedly on $700,000 at Manly - after having one real good year of footy - playing a third of minutes Farah plays.
Attack if you like - but it is not nearly as outrageous as it is being portrayed in my opinion.

well said mate.
its amazing that peoples dislike towards someone causes them to lose sight of reality.
people hear the numbers 1.9M and flip out.
The reality is, in this business - Farah's numbers are not over the top at all.
the fact that the club has mismanaged themselves financially - from the board to the field - is why we are in this mess.
The club is now balking at his payout figure.
whilst the situation is very different to Tim Sheens, they tried that with him also.
Some of you will scream blue murder and every profanity in the book at Farah if this goes to the courts.
But seriously - take the personalities out and ask yourself what you would do if your employer owed you money as per a contract - told you to leave - told you they were going to pay you and then back flipped with "we will now do what works for us "

come one.
farah taylor all that aside.
this is just amateur hour thats spanning months now…....

Farah should get everything he is owed. However if he is joining another club, we should not be paying him out in full and then letting him top up with another $400K (arbitrary figure there,) that his new club would offer. That's just insanity on the clubs part. If another club is offering $400K a year for two years, we should cover off the balance of the $1.9m owed.

Absolutely agree - just making the point that at 750,000 a year over four years (as it should have been if he had not agreed to the clubs request) is a fairer account of Farahs salary than the 1,900,000 that is constantly reported.

 

[foreveratiger]

Please correct me if I have got it wrong - 1,900,000 million owed inclusive of the four hundred owed from the first two years of the contract that the club didnt pay him - so over the four year contract Farahs salary $750,000 a year there abouts. If Moses and Brooks are reportedly going to earn $600,000 next year - considering Farahs career and that he still is a rep player - time to get over what he is being paid for possibly his last big contract. Tapau reportedly on $700,000 at Manly - after having one real good year of footy - playing a third of minutes Farah plays.
Attack if you like - but it is not nearly as outrageous as it is being portrayed in my opinion.

well said mate.
its amazing that peoples dislike towards someone causes them to lose sight of reality.
people hear the numbers 1.9M and flip out.
The reality is, in this business - Farah's numbers are not over the top at all.
the fact that the club has mismanaged themselves financially - from the board to the field - is why we are in this mess.
The club is now balking at his payout figure.
whilst the situation is very different to Tim Sheens, they tried that with him also.
Some of you will scream blue murder and every profanity in the book at Farah if this goes to the courts.
But seriously - take the personalities out and ask yourself what you would do if your employer owed you money as per a contract - told you to leave - told you they were going to pay you and then back flipped with "we will now do what works for us "

come one.
farah taylor all that aside.
this is just amateur hour thats spanning months now…....

Farah should get everything he is owed. However if he is joining another club, we should not be paying him out in full and then letting him top up with another $400K (arbitrary figure there,) that his new club would offer. That's just insanity on the clubs part. If another club is offering $400K a year for two years, we should cover off the balance of the $1.9m owed.

Absolutely agree - just making the point that at 750,000 a year over four years (as it should have been if he had not agreed to the clubs request) is a fairer account of Farahs salary than the 1,900,000 that is constantly reported.

Some very good and sensible reading from you blokes…..wouldn't expect anything less from you guys :master: . Everything that i just read....i agree with all of youse.

 

[Newtown]

He hasn't earnt that sum of money yet. He still has to play the next two seasons to earn it.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

He hasn't earnt that sum of money yet. He still has to play the next two seasons to earn it.

He is contracted for it, so he should get it.

Signing players to long term deals is always speculative, especially nearing the end of their career.

 

[ricksen]

Please correct me if I have got it wrong - 1,900,000 million owed inclusive of the four hundred owed from the first two years of the contract that the club didnt pay him - so over the four year contract Farahs salary $750,000 a year there abouts. If Moses and Brooks are reportedly going to earn $600,000 next year - considering Farahs career and that he still is a rep player - time to get over what he is being paid for possibly his last big contract. Tapau reportedly on $700,000 at Manly - after having one real good year of footy - playing a third of minutes Farah plays.
Attack if you like - but it is not nearly as outrageous as it is being portrayed in my opinion.

well said mate.
its amazing that peoples dislike towards someone causes them to lose sight of reality.
people hear the numbers 1.9M and flip out.
The reality is, in this business - Farah's numbers are not over the top at all.
the fact that the club has mismanaged themselves financially - from the board to the field - is why we are in this mess.
The club is now balking at his payout figure.
whilst the situation is very different to Tim Sheens, they tried that with him also.
Some of you will scream blue murder and every profanity in the book at Farah if this goes to the courts.
But seriously - take the personalities out and ask yourself what you would do if your employer owed you money as per a contract - told you to leave - told you they were going to pay you and then back flipped with "we will now do what works for us "

come one.
farah taylor all that aside.
this is just amateur hour thats spanning months now…....

Agree about the mismanagement, but why would it go to court? The issue is how much of Farah's salary will be covered by WT, and how much by his prospective new club - not whether he'll get his money at all.
Farah will get his $1.9m (or whatever the figure is). Pascoe is just trying to minimise the amount the WT cover so that the cap hit is more beneficial.

 

[Newtown]

Correct. Wests Tigers are in no way at all implying that he will not get the money owing to him. Legally he has two more years years to run on his contract and he will get this amount whether he spends the next two years playing for Wests Tigers or for another club or a mixture of both.