Sack Sheens Thread

[GNR4LIFE]

I'd like to see what Daniel Anderson could do with the team. He's a commentator on the ABC and he sounds like a very intelligent bloke. Plus, he took Parramatta to the Grand Final… He must be good!
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I agree Anderson is a good coach, but we must remember that the run to the 2009 GF was thanks largely to the Hayne and Mateo show.

I am sure you'll find by the time Mateo came back into the side Parra were already on a roll. I remember this because i remember that he'd been out injured and couldn't force his way back into the side and Paul Osbourne was very cocky saying that he had had a meeting with Metao and had told him 'its hard to break into a side that are winning by 20 every week'. God that guy got what he deserved. Nothing but a grubby politician

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Probably get shot down for this but what the hell. Stuart, although a massive knob, has the track record, and i would say would be the most well credentialed candidate there is. 3 consecutive GF's in his first 3 seasons as a head coach with one premiership. And then guided the Sharks to a pre-lim final in 08\. A massive tool yes, but the guy can coach, his record speaks for itself

Royce could have coached Easts to the three GF's they made with that squad…

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I'd like to see what Daniel Anderson could do with the team. He's a commentator on the ABC and he sounds like a very intelligent bloke. Plus, he took Parramatta to the Grand Final… He must be good!
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I agree Anderson is a good coach, but we must remember that the run to the 2009 GF was thanks largely to the Hayne and Mateo show.

Didn't he take warriors into GF in 2002?
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Yes he did, I do believe that I said he was a good coach so I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here?

 

[tigerdre]

Probably get shot down for this but what the hell. Stuart, although a massive knob, has the track record, and i would say would be the most well credentialed candidate there is. 3 consecutive GF's in his first 3 seasons as a head coach with one premiership. And then guided the Sharks to a pre-lim final in 08\. A massive tool yes, but the guy can coach, his record speaks for itself

Yeah but we all would be a sleep by 1/2 time.
He & Kearney would have to be the most boring coaches of this genaration

 

[bigsiro]

Probably get shot down for this but what the hell. Stuart, although a massive knob, has the track record, and i would say would be the most well credentialed candidate there is. 3 consecutive GF's in his first 3 seasons as a head coach with one premiership. And then guided the Sharks to a pre-lim final in 08\. A massive tool yes, but the guy can coach, his record speaks for itself

Yeah but we all would be a sleep by 1/2 time.
He & Kearney would have to be the most boring coaches of this genaration

Chris Anderson was the most boring…... Stuart was not far off.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Probably get shot down for this but what the hell. Stuart, although a massive knob, has the track record, and i would say would be the most well credentialed candidate there is. 3 consecutive GF's in his first 3 seasons as a head coach with one premiership. And then guided the Sharks to a pre-lim final in 08\. A massive tool yes, but the guy can coach, his record speaks for itself

Yeah but we all would be a sleep by 1/2 time.
He & Kearney would have to be the most boring coaches of this genaration

Which would you prefer a consistant boring team, or a flashy inconsisitant team like the one we have now?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Probably get shot down for this but what the hell. Stuart, although a massive knob, has the track record, and i would say would be the most well credentialed candidate there is. 3 consecutive GF's in his first 3 seasons as a head coach with one premiership. And then guided the Sharks to a pre-lim final in 08\. A massive tool yes, but the guy can coach, his record speaks for itself

Royce could have coached Easts to the three GF's they made with that squad…

You could say the same thing about Sheens at Canberra, not to mention they won one of those comps when they were over the cap

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Probably get shot down for this but what the hell. Stuart, although a massive knob, has the track record, and i would say would be the most well credentialed candidate there is. 3 consecutive GF's in his first 3 seasons as a head coach with one premiership. And then guided the Sharks to a pre-lim final in 08\. A massive tool yes, but the guy can coach, his record speaks for itself

Royce could have coached Easts to the three GF's they made with that squad…

You could say the same thing about Sheens at Canberra, not to mention they won one of those comps when they were over the cap

Yes, except Sheens has gone on to do it at another club, well under the cap too and using a bunch of kids and solid first graders. That's not me defending him, that's giving credit where credit is due.

Alot of people rate Bellamy as well, even after they found out he won two comps and made four consecutive grand finals by cheating the cap in a ridiculous manner.

 

[bigsiro]

Which would you prefer a consistant boring team, or a flashy inconsisitant team like the one we have now?

Name me a team that is consistent and boring that has won multiple premierships in the last 20 years?
Melbourne? Brisbane? - they were exciting - NOT boring. Manly, Bulldogs? maybe…

The Dragons have probably been the most boring team of the last 20 years. They have always been competitive yet have only won 1 title in that time....as have the Tigers. In that case I take 'flashy inconsistent'.

However, I would rather what Melbourne and Brisbane have; exciting **and** consistent.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Probably get shot down for this but what the hell. Stuart, although a massive knob, has the track record, and i would say would be the most well credentialed candidate there is. 3 consecutive GF's in his first 3 seasons as a head coach with one premiership. And then guided the Sharks to a pre-lim final in 08\. A massive tool yes, but the guy can coach, his record speaks for itself

Royce could have coached Easts to the three GF's they made with that squad…

You could say the same thing about Sheens at Canberra, not to mention they won one of those comps when they were over the cap

Yes, except Sheens has gone on to do it at another club, well under the cap too and using a bunch of kids and solid first graders. That's not me defending him, that's giving credit where credit is due.

Alot of people rate Bellamy as well, even after they found out he won two comps and made four consecutive grand finals by cheating the cap in a ridiculous manner.

John Lang did the same thing 2 yrs before. Not saying Sheens doesn't deserve credit, but its not something that hadn't been done before. And look at Johnny Lang, he was sacked 3 yrs later

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Don't know how anyone can not consider Melbourne as anything other than exciting this year. Regimented, yes, but not boring. They can score from anywhere on the field, and the connection Smith has with his half and fullback is remarkable.

 

[bigsiro]

Don't know how anyone can not consider Melbourne as anything other than exciting this year. Regimented, yes, but not boring. They can score from anywhere on the field, and the connection Smith has with his half and fullback is remarkable.

Yep. They have been the most exciting team for a long time now. They are the benchmark.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

John Lang did the same thing 2 yrs before. Not saying Sheens doesn't deserve credit, but its not something that hadn't been done before. And look at Johnny Lang, he was sacked 3 yrs later

I guess I'll concede that RE: John Lang. But given the squad he inherited (he didn't even build it,) I don't think it's fair to credit Stuart as a mastermind. This is the same genius that shafted De Gois and Kimmorley for Scott Porter/Brett Seymour and Corey Hughes.

 

[innsaneink]

Folkes would take this team to a whole new level. God I wish we'd kept him here.

You have to wonder why on earth the club would have let him go? was Sheens worried he might have a suitable replacement alongside him? :wink:

I can't believe anyone would shoot down Folkes, yet endorse Sheens at the same time. Sheens record isn't any better over the last decade

Sheens is the Australian coach and is a contemporary NRL coach with plenty of experience behind him. Folkes, from my observations, has concentrated on the conditioning side of things since leaving the coaching role at the Bulldogs and is untested in recent times.

For crying out loud Cunno….you make it sound like he hasnt coached for 20 years....it was only 2008 he last had the role
Yeh the games changed so much since then... :crazy

 

[Deano1]

Personally I think Sheens should be allowed to see the finish of the season. It's probably going to be painful to watch but if we don't make the 8 then nobody can sensibly defend him anymore…if we go deep into finals time then there will be no more of these threads in the off season. I also would have loved to have seen Folkes stay here and take over as head coach once Sheens did move on.

 

[Yossarian]

Personally I think Sheens should be allowed to see the finish of the season. It's probably going to be painful to watch but if we don't make the 8 then nobody can sensibly defend him anymore…if we go deep into finals time then there will be no more of these threads in the off season. I also would have loved to have seen Folkes stay here and take over as head coach once Sheens did move on.

We've been deep into the finals the last two years and yet here we are… Sacking him mid-season will achieve nothing positive. Does anyone even know if Steve Folkes WANTS to coach an NRL team these days?

 

[hybrid_tiger]

If we don't make the 8 then Sheens should be moved on.

 

[cunno]

Folkes would take this team to a whole new level. God I wish we'd kept him here.

You have to wonder why on earth the club would have let him go? was Sheens worried he might have a suitable replacement alongside him? :wink:

I can't believe anyone would shoot down Folkes, yet endorse Sheens at the same time. Sheens record isn't any better over the last decade

Sheens is the Australian coach and is a contemporary NRL coach with plenty of experience behind him. Folkes, from my observations, has concentrated on the conditioning side of things since leaving the coaching role at the Bulldogs and is untested in recent times.

For crying out loud Cunno….you make it sound like he hasnt coached for 20 years....it was only 2008 he last had the role
Yeh the games changed so much since then... :crazy

It wasn't my intention to make it sound as exaggerated as you have made out (20 yrs) my point is the fact that Sheens is a current coach, Folkes is not and looks to be more interested in working in the fitness area of the game based on his current roles. I don't know how this proves that Folkes should replace Sheens.

 

[innsaneink]

Who said anything about proving anything?
Waaay out of context.

He's been involved in the game at the top level for 35 years, coached at the top level for over ten….has continued to be involved in footy since he ''stopped'' coaching....you dont forget, or in his case he would still be up to date with all the latest coaching techniques just being around the weights room 6 days a week

 

[alex]

I'd like to see what Daniel Anderson could do with the team. He's a commentator on the ABC and he sounds like a very intelligent bloke. Plus, he took Parramatta to the Grand Final… He must be good!
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I agree Anderson is a good coach, but we must remember that the run to the 2009 GF was thanks largely to the Hayne and Mateo show.

Shows he's able to get the best out of his players too, something our current coach is lacking after ten years in the same place