Same sex marriage debate...

Macklemore is set to take a stand with marriage equality when he performs his track 'Same Love' at this Sunday's NRL grand final.

'Same Love' has been dubbed as an unofficial marriage equality anthem as the track was brought out during the time when the US government was deciding whether to legalise same sex marriage in Washington State in 2012.

The superstar is also bringing out co-singer Mary Lambert, who he performs 'Same Love' with.

Whilst the NRL has yet to release an official statement on marriage equality like the AFL or Australian Rugby Union, Chief Executive Todd Greenberg has previously spoken of the code's level of acceptance.

"The game has a small number of values and one of those values is inclusiveness. It's an easy thing to write on the wall, but it needs to be demonstrated in actions," Greenburg said in September.

Both the AFL and ARU have seen ramifications because of their public stance.

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/nrl-grand-final-marriage-equality-macklemore/1lyad2in8gqoa1dyan5sbwezav
 
How is Macklemore even playing at the grand final, utter garbage? Compare to the killers at the AFL and know which I would prefer
 
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Personally I wrote down yes on the survey, but one of my mates is very firmly against it, and I don't have a problem with that. He can think whatever he likes. Fair enough.

What I don't like, is that he is getting text messages inviting him to write 'Yes', from lobbyists I presume. He has received quite a few, and he has gotten really annoyed/ upset about them hassling him. There is no way they are ever going to get him to change his mind, he is firmed in his belief now even stronger.

If you want to go yes, cool, or no, whichever, but hassling people is not only counter-productive it is plain rude. Government should have banned all advertising about it, lobbying, all that rubbish. Just let people say what they think without trying to pressure them, isn't that what the whole thing was meant to be about?
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How is Macklemore even playing at the grand final, utter garbage? Compare to the killers at the AFL and know which I would prefer
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Harvey, mate you are kidding. I noticed a few years back they had Marlisi winner of the X Factor singing at the 2014 AFL Finals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwKMIUAzSqY
ALMOST HOPELESS, hardly worth feeding.

Compare that to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSq8604C8vE at the same age.

More appropriately would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WG4IkWqHtg who can sing and is outed lesbian. (phew just managed to make it relevant to thread)
 
It will be a sad day if this country says NO.

You can get married in the deep south of the USA if you are gay - yet THEY get called rednecks, and ignorant hicks.

The saving grace I take from a no vote is that even if it's a no vote, the Coalition will go on to be crushed in the next election, and change of Government will bring in marriage equality.

I just don't see why this doesn't have bipartisan favour - it just seems to be No for the sake of No….
 
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It will be a sad day if this country says NO.

You can get married in the deep south of the USA if you are gay - yet THEY get called rednecks, and ignorant hicks.

The saving grace I take from a no vote is that even if it's a no vote, the Coalition will go on to be crushed in the next election, and change of Government will bring in marriage equality.

I just don't see why this doesn't have bipartisan favour - it just seems to be No for the sake of No….
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So you're equating a 'No' vote with ignorance and general backwardness, without any evidence as to the motivations of a person voting 'No' .

Does it make you feel virtuous to make these statements?
 
No, not virtuous. In my own way I know I'm being narrow minded, as I can't see outside my own point of view here - however happy to hear reasoning that i doesn't involve either unfounded remarks about turning kids gay or anything beyond a "I just don't like it"

Evidence as to why It should be a No vote would be appreciated though. I'm still yet to see "evidence" that gives good reason to vote No - just a lot of people bothered about something that has nothing to do with them.
 
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No, not virtuous. In my own way I know I'm being narrow minded, as I can't see outside my own point of view here - however happy to hear reasoning that i doesn't involve either unfounded remarks about turning kids gay or anything beyond a "I just don't like it"

Evidence as to why It should be a No vote would be appreciated though. I'm still yet to see "evidence" that gives good reason to vote No - just a lot of people bothered about something that has nothing to do with them.
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I honestly don't get the no vote and I'm yet to see one reason why anyone would vote no. On this thread the ideas to explain the no vote are bizarre and have nothing at all to do with people getting married.
 
How dumb is the league hierarchy putting this macklemore on at our grand final, I can see the crowd reacting negatively to this character with Booing, fights and abuse. Already this backing of the Yes vote has taken the spotlight away from the most important day on our Calendar which Greenberg had no right to Do. KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORT
 
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How dumb is the league hierarchy putting this macklemore on at our grand final, I can see the crowd reacting negatively to this character with Booing, fights and abuse. Already this backing of the Yes vote has taken the spotlight away from the most important day on our Calendar which Greenberg had no right to Do. KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORT
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It is entertainment and one of four songs to be performed, not a statement about SSM, nor political. Simply a song about love aimed at his fellow singers that a politician has put in the spotlight for his own purposes, just like our PM and the media photo from the recent Swans match.
 
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How dumb is the league hierarchy putting this macklemore on at our grand final, I can see the crowd reacting negatively to this character with Booing, fights and abuse. Already this backing of the Yes vote has taken the spotlight away from the most important day on our Calendar which Greenberg had no right to Do. KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORT

It is entertainment and one of four songs to be performed, not a statement about SSM, nor political. Simply a song about love aimed at his fellow singers that a politician has put in the spotlight for his own purposes, just like our PM and the media photo from the recent Swans match.
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It would be the height of hypocrisy for the NRL to have an inclusive policy and then censor an entertainer to satisfy those that are trying tie separate issues into a simple single question topic about marriage.
 
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No, not virtuous. In my own way I know I'm being narrow minded, as I can't see outside my own point of view here - however happy to hear reasoning that i doesn't involve either unfounded remarks about turning kids gay or anything beyond a "I just don't like it"

Evidence as to why It should be a No vote would be appreciated though. I'm still yet to see "evidence" that gives good reason to vote No - just a lot of people bothered about something that has nothing to do with them.
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Its funny that you likened No voters to redneck hicks … the only people i see acting like actual redneck hicks have been the Yes activists assaulting people, stealing campaign signs, tipping over tables, shouting in people's faces, and making quite violent and worrisome threats. Yet I don't go tarring all Yes voters with the same brush as these radical morons... its never a good idea to generalise.

As for the reasons for voting No, there is a wide range of opinions and worries about what a Yes vote will lead to without proper protections put in place. Maybe if you had a conversation with those people, minus the insults and feigned moral superiority, you would get a reasonable idea of the reasons behind their opinions.
 
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How is Macklemore even playing at the grand final, utter garbage? Compare to the killers at the AFL and know which I would prefer

Eh, The Killers are garbage

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OK Please guys this is important:
The Killers do beat Macklemore, but that is because their a Great rock band.
Being honest though the killers have never topped "Hot Fuss" as an album. Occasional hits but they have never ever pushed past the "hot Fuss" peak with "somebody told me", "Mr Brightside", "danny was a friend of mine". (I can't remember the real names. seriously Hot Fuss is their best album ever).

Macklemore though is one of the few rappers who deserves respect. "thrift shop heart" should be played at every NRL board meeting till they understand why we need 1 Jersey for our clubs. I have total respect for his back albums and I HATE RAP! Yes I hate rap, rap is awful. Rap is absolutely horrible, Jay Z, snoop dag and any of those other dropkicks I hope never walk into a NRL game ever.

But I will give Macklemore the time of day.
 
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How dumb is the league hierarchy putting this macklemore on at our grand final, I can see the crowd reacting negatively to this character with Booing, fights and abuse. Already this backing of the Yes vote has taken the spotlight away from the most important day on our Calendar which Greenberg had no right to Do. KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORT

It is entertainment and one of four songs to be performed, not a statement about SSM, nor political. Simply a song about love aimed at his fellow singers that a politician has put in the spotlight for his own purposes, just like our PM and the media photo from the recent Swans match.

It would be the height of hypocrisy for the NRL to have an inclusive policy and then censor an entertainer to satisfy those that are trying tie separate issues into a simple single question topic about marriage.
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But he has been censored. He has promised not to use some of the colourful language that are part and parcel of his songs
 
An older article but on topic. This is George Brandis defending the proposed SSM legislation as put by Sen Dean Pay.
"Senator Brandis added there were already constitutional and legal protections for religious freedom.

“Although we don’t have a bill of rights in Australia, unusually there is actually a constitutional protection of religious freedom of section 116 of the Constitution,” he said.

“There are also protections in way of exemption for religious opinion and faith in the discrimination statutes.”"

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/same-sex-marriage-tony-abbott-wont-trick-me-george-brandis-says/news-story/b61a5fb2500c26822f861ffd7bf16862

Section 116:
Section 116 of the Constitution of Australia precludes the Commonwealth of Australia (i.e., the federal parliament) from making laws for establishing any religion, imposing any religious observance, or prohibiting the free exercise of any religion.
 
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How dumb is the league hierarchy putting this macklemore on at our grand final, I can see the crowd reacting negatively to this character with Booing, fights and abuse. Already this backing of the Yes vote has taken the spotlight away from the most important day on our Calendar which Greenberg had no right to Do. KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORT

It is entertainment and one of four songs to be performed, not a statement about SSM, nor political. Simply a song about love aimed at his fellow singers that a politician has put in the spotlight for his own purposes, just like our PM and the media photo from the recent Swans match.

It would be the height of hypocrisy for the NRL to have an inclusive policy and then censor an entertainer to satisfy those that are trying tie separate issues into a simple single question topic about marriage.

But he has been censored. He has promised not to use some of the colourful language that are part and parcel of his songs
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Different kettle of fish. Age of audience and time slot is a separate issue and matter of law or rules.
 
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How is Macklemore even playing at the grand final, utter garbage? Compare to the killers at the AFL and know which I would prefer

Eh, The Killers are garbage

QFT

OK Please guys this is important:
The Killers do beat Macklemore, but that is because their a Great rock band.
Being honest though the killers have never topped "Hot Fuss" as an album. Occasional hits but they have never ever pushed past the "hot Fuss" peak with "somebody told me", "Mr Brightside", "danny was a friend of mine". (I can't remember the real names. seriously Hot Fuss is their best album ever).

Macklemore though is one of the few rappers who deserves respect. "thrift shop heart" should be played at every NRL board meeting till they understand why we need 1 Jersey for our clubs. I have total respect for his back albums and I HATE RAP! Yes I hate rap, rap is awful. Rap is absolutely horrible, Jay Z, snoop dag and any of those other dropkicks I hope never walk into a NRL game ever.

Uh-huh.
But I will give Macklemore the time of day.
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