Shining some new light

[Tim Sheens]

Kicking off a new thread to draw attention to an informative post/s from Tiger Torch in the Wests Tigers Team v Parramatta thread, just in case some who like me generally don't look at similar threads much, may have missed it.

Certainly worth a look, and maybe one of the mods can place it in a new/suitable thread, if like me, feels that it gets lost in its current location.

He/she confirmed a few things that some on here had concerns about and cast some light on a few other areas of concern, including the coaching contract situation.

 

[balmain boy]

Drawing attention to the post without re-posting it, linking to it or telling us what it said??

 

[jirskyr]

Drawing attention to the post without re-posting it, linking to it or telling us what it said??

Hahaha yes apparently.

I'd like to draw your attention to the plight of Mongolian farmers on the SW border with China. Thanks for your attention.

 

[marzie]

Here's the first post, someone can find the rest. See Wests Tigers team vs parramatta thread starting page 3

O.K. guys its been awhile so here's the news from inside the bunker.
-Simona may play on Monday but its not only his ankle that's causing concern, its his general fitness & pace which has been the case since the pre-season. He is simply not making the second efforts at training as he hasn't got the fitness - carrying too much muscle bulk same as Tapau.
- Tapau has been challenged to play 30 minutes high intensity per half but he simply can't get those minutes which forces Woods to play more minutes than he should. Tapau is not happy at being forced to play longer minutes he sees his role as a starting impact player / enforcer!!! The jury is out on whether he will hang around beyond 2016.
- Seve is ready and may make his debut after bye. He is now the 2nd fastest in the club after Teddy. What may surprise some is that Simona has slipped to 5th behind Brooks & Martin. (this is for 50m - 100m sprints) Simona can still compete with these guys up to 50m, but has definitely lost pace. Seve has impressed with his defence as well as his attack and has a bit of mongrel in his play. His work rate though is still poor. Overall the club believes he is the long term centre solution - he was a left centre specialist but is now playing exclusively right centre preparing to partner Simona.
- Fine much like Lawrence is now considered primarily a 2nd rower and is still finding his feet after coming back from injury. Fletcher thinks he's good to go, Taylor not convinced.
- Noffa is still 4 weeks away and much like Simona is causing concern with his dramatic loss of pace.
_ Hoeter & Malone (club favourite - not mine) are both in the top 25 contracted players so will always be looked at first. Taylor was involved in selecting his top 25 so there's no hiding from the fact that his assessments are poor as there are at least 5 (including these 2) of this top 25 not worthy of this ranking. This is a core problem for those of you like me that watch every game in every grade - our top 25 is in fact not our top 25 based on performance.
- The club is well and truly under the cap with further savings to come at end of year - problem is there isn't much actual petty cash left to get near spending the cap. Pauli Pauli & Daniel Tupou are still in discussions as is Idris with a $250k 1 year subsidy from Penrith. Whilst I was lead to believe we would have $1million + to spend in 2016 I'm now told all we can actually afford is closer to $700k - which will put us approx. $500k below 2016 cap.
- Bailey Sironen & Matthew Woods are seen as the next wave of backrow talent.
- Funaki; Akoula have both failed this year to impress Fletcher and in turn Taylor; Liolave has been told to lift his defence workrate to match Lovett's / Santis before he will be given another shot in 1st grade.
_ Taylor will remain until at least round 13 2016! But there are triggers beyond that!!! He can of course walk away anytime he wants without any penalty.
O.k. that's what I've been told but for what its worth my opinions are as follows:
If the reported selected team actually plays??? we will get belted by 20+ and definitely get the spoon. This is a very poor side: Sevi & Fine should both play this week even if Simona is fit.
I would let all off contract players go with the exception of Ava; Martin & Lovett.
I would sign Tupou (close personal friend of Rod Reddy) for $300k - asking $350k.
Likewise I would take the risk on Idris @ $300k + Penrith $250k 1 yr subsidy / with further 1 year option at full price $550k. ( I don't think we can swing this deal)
I would sign Pauli Pauli @ $250k p.a. over 2 years - still looks promising perhaps announced after Monday's game.
I would increase Tapou in line with Brooks & Moses which I'm told next year could be $400k +
All future hopes to become a consistent and legitimate title contender rest with the resolution of the Balmain Leagues club saga and pretty much rely on one man Harry T!

 

[Tim Sheens]

Drawing attention to the post without re-posting it, linking to it or telling us what it said??

Real technotard this end BB. Might have some chance of cutting and pasting with a mouse on the laptop, but NFI about how to do it on the ipad that I was using. I did however at least name the thread, as well as mentioning the coaching contract.

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[Newtown]

The news in the Tiger Torch article would lift the outlook of all Wests Tigers fans. Hopefully it is from a respected source.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Interesting read. Tupou would be a massive coup considering where we're at as a club. Pauli Pauli has ability but no discipline and too many errors in his game. Idris has all as much potential as anyone in the comp, but he has about as much motivation as Tony Williams.

 

[bp_tiger]

gee if this is true it at least gives us some hope, would like us to be looking at 2 second rowers not one. can we confirm., any of this, would make all feel so much better. also good news we can maybe get rid of JT after round 13 next year.

 

[littletiger]

We need new good forwards to sign with the brand of footy we play. I don't know about tt he was spot on with the Lawrence switch to back row but other things his said hasn't quite come to fruition. His a bit all over the place too in that he bags the club in one breath and in the other breath he says the future is ok… But it's probably the passionate fan in him/her. I think his got some connection to nsw cup cause he talks about Fletcher a lot. His the most exciting user on this forum anyway. He also mention we were looking at signing someone from gold coast previously but that seemed to have died on the vine.

 

[balmain boy]

Drawing attention to the post without re-posting it, linking to it or telling us what it said??

Real technotard this end BB. Might have some chance of cutting and pasting with a mouse on the laptop, but NFI about how to do it on the ipad that I was using. I did however at least name the thread, as well as mentioning the coaching contract.

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No worries FG. I know doing these things on tablets and mobiles is never as easy as it should be!

Just seemed a little odd, and for people like me who are time poor and can't trawl through a long thread looking for a post which we might find interesting it makes it that much easier.

But yes indeed that post is very informative, (IF it's sources are accurate).

 

[Abraham]

This issue with Balmain really needs to be sorted out ASAP.

Will they survive, won't they, will Harry bail them out, will someone else come to the rescue … its killing the JV at the moment and we need a resolution before next season goes down the gurgler too.

To be $500,000.00 under the cap is ludicrous in this day and age, especially when the NRL grant basically covers the salaries of all the players anyway.

 

[magpiecol]

gee if this is true it at least gives us some hope, would like us to be looking at 2 second rowers not one. can we confirm., any of this, would make all feel so much better. also good news we can maybe get rid of JT after round 13 next year.

Yes, let's do that. Even though we are undefeated after 13 rounds. Good one.

 

[VanillaThunder]

Can't understand us looking at Idris and Pauli but getting rid of Funaki and Akauola? They'd cost us a lot more and while Idris has the potential to be a world beater, they all have similar issues.

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[bp_tiger]

gee if this is true it at least gives us some hope, would like us to be looking at 2 second rowers not one. can we confirm., any of this, would make all feel so much better. also good news we can maybe get rid of JT after round 13 next year.

Yes, let's do that. Even though we are undefeated after 13 rounds. Good one.

and what if we our 13 games without a win, u took the quote right out of contex. some people just like to talk crap.

 

[king_sirro]

Interesting read. Tupou would be a massive coup considering where we're at as a club. Pauli Pauli has ability but no discipline and too many errors in his game. Idris has all as much potential as anyone in the comp, but he has about as much motivation as Tony Williams.

Tupou has been awful this year. Although he does have talent. I wonder if he would make a good centre or is purely a winger.

 

[benji_6]

The guy I would be after is mahe fonua from the storm

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[Black_n_White]

Interesting read. Tupou would be a massive coup considering where we're at as a club. Pauli Pauli has ability but no discipline and too many errors in his game. Idris has all as much potential as anyone in the comp, but he has about as much motivation as Tony Williams.

Tupou has been awful this year. Although he does have talent. I wonder if he would make a good centre or is purely a winger.

Topou is a bit of an Ayshford, brimming with talent just not enough ticker to lug it around the park and use it.

 

[bp_tiger]

would like the bloke from the storm NELSON ASOFA-SOLOMONA, seen him olay in the u20s test game he is a gun. also as a back up player NATHEN STAPLTON, can play winger,fullback,centre and can kick goals.and FONUA would be a good signing.

 

[jirskyr]

Can't understand us looking at Idris and Pauli but getting rid of Funaki and Akauola? They'd cost us a lot more and while Idris has the potential to be a world beater, they all have similar issues.

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It is always interesting with these kind of players. They can be game-breakers, but maybe that is only 1 in 10 games, which probably doesn't justify the cost.

Idris and Tony Williams are the template for super inconsistent playing, followed closely by Dave Taylor. They've all played reps and I wouldn't want to oppose them on the wrong day.

Do you not ever carry these players a la Melbourne Storm, or do you take one or two and hope the rest of the team takes up the inevitable slack?

 

[TrueTiger]

Can't understand us looking at Idris and Pauli but getting rid of Funaki and Akauola? They'd cost us a lot more and while Idris has the potential to be a world beater, they all have similar issues.

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It is always interesting with these kind of players. They can be game-breakers, but maybe that is only 1 in 10 games, which probably doesn't justify the cost.

Idris and Tony Williams are the template for super inconsistent playing, followed closely by Dave Taylor. They've all played reps and I wouldn't want to oppose them on the wrong day.

Do you not ever carry these players a la Melbourne Storm, or do you take one or two and hope the rest of the team takes up the inevitable slack?

That's the thing jirskyr,do we buy them and then the rest of the team carry them for the duration of their contract….because we all know that nobody gets drop here at the great WTs..