Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tony soprano]

Apparently Christian Welch is on our radar??

Would be a very decent signing


Yeah that sounds about right, someone who’s recovering from an ACL operation.
Matt Ballin mark 2.

Welch took up 2020 option with storm when no one wanted him after his injury.

 

[innsaneink]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

 

[happy_tiger]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

Capewell and Rona must be on first name basis with the office staff with the amount of times they have been speaking to our recruitment crew

 

[OzLuke]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us....get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

 

[rex2ce]

@OzLuke from a football point of view, hope he stays

 

[OzLuke]

@OzLuke from a football point of view, hope he stays

agree but he won't be able to come back....the players would mutiny

 

[Tim Sheens]

@OzLuke from a football point of view, hope he stays

agree but he won't be able to come back....the players would mutiny

As long as WT get some form of bounty, I am not fussed.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Lawrence re-signed!
Great news and well deserved!

 

[2041]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us....get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

How would that work?

Tigers: Hello, is this Ian Warriors, head of recruitment at the New Zealand Warriors?
Warriors: Yes it is. What can I do for you?
Tigers: Would you like to take one back row forward, slightly used, good engine off our hands? He's going to need about $600,000 a year.
Warriors: Why that sounds like a bargain! Sign us up.
Tigers: Great. Oh, one thing: we're going to need Cuzzy Promusung-Youngster in return.
Warriors: Hmm, less good but still ok.
Tigers: Great, hold the line please.

...

Tigers: Hey Ryan, we've got a new home for you. How much would you like to live in Auckland?
Matterson: Not at all. My manager is working on this and he will be in touch. Goodbye.

 

[jirskyr]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us....get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

How would that work?

Tigers: Hello, is this Ian Warriors, head of recruitment at the New Zealand Warriors?
Warriors: Yes it is. What can I do for you?
Tigers: Would you like to take one back row forward, slightly used, good engine off our hands? He's going to need about $600,000 a year.
Warriors: Why that sounds like a bargain! Sign us up.
Tigers: Great. Oh, one thing: we're going to need Cuzzy Promusung-Youngster in return.
Warriors: Hmm, less good but still ok.
Tigers: Great, hold the line please.

...

Tigers: Hey Ryan, we've got a new home for you. How much would you like to live in Auckland?
Matterson: Not at all. My manager is working on this and he will be in touch. Goodbye.

Agree, why would we be wasting our time trying to find Matterson a new home? That's what he pays his manager to do, who started this whole mess.

We can comfortably sit and wait for Matto to figure it out himself, but if he's not training with anyone and staring down the barrel of playing for the Magpies in Rd 1, the pressure is on Matto and not Tigers.

Then when Matto has started to thrash out a deal, we can look at the offending club and decide what we might want from them. And also, all potential suitors know they need to come offering Tigers something.

 

[happy_tiger]

@OzLuke from a football point of view, hope he stays

agree but he won't be able to come back....the players would mutiny

As long as WT get some form of bounty, I am not fussed.

Like this

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=picture+of+a+bounty+bar&qpvt=picture+of+a+bounty+bar&FORM=IGRE

 

[Newtown]

@happy_tiger He's given Wests tigers a lot of angst lately so no sweet deals from this club.

 

[OzLuke]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us....get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

How would that work?

Tigers: Hello, is this Ian Warriors, head of recruitment at the New Zealand Warriors?
Warriors: Yes it is. What can I do for you?
Tigers: Would you like to take one back row forward, slightly used, good engine off our hands? He's going to need about $600,000 a year.
Warriors: Why that sounds like a bargain! Sign us up.
Tigers: Great. Oh, one thing: we're going to need Cuzzy Promusung-Youngster in return.
Warriors: Hmm, less good but still ok.
Tigers: Great, hold the line please.

...

Tigers: Hey Ryan, we've got a new home for you. How much would you like to live in Auckland?
Matterson: Not at all. My manager is working on this and he will be in touch. Goodbye.

Agree, why would we be wasting our time trying to find Matterson a new home? That's what he pays his manager to do, who started this whole mess.

We can comfortably sit and wait for Matto to figure it out himself, but if he's not training with anyone and staring down the barrel of playing for the Magpies in Rd 1, the pressure is on Matto and not Tigers.

Then when Matto has started to thrash out a deal, we can look at the offending club and decide what we might want from them. And also, all potential suitors know they need to come offering Tigers something.

The club knows what they want in return for him...I'm saying put the idea into the heads of other clubs and watch the movie unfold by saying "we will give you matterson for this" rather than have clubs come to us and say "we will offer you this". Just proactive and I don't think he cares what team he plays for as long as the coach tells him he's better than everybody else and pays him overs.

 

[2041]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us....get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

How would that work?

Tigers: Hello, is this Ian Warriors, head of recruitment at the New Zealand Warriors?
Warriors: Yes it is. What can I do for you?
Tigers: Would you like to take one back row forward, slightly used, good engine off our hands? He's going to need about $600,000 a year.
Warriors: Why that sounds like a bargain! Sign us up.
Tigers: Great. Oh, one thing: we're going to need Cuzzy Promusung-Youngster in return.
Warriors: Hmm, less good but still ok.
Tigers: Great, hold the line please.

...

Tigers: Hey Ryan, we've got a new home for you. How much would you like to live in Auckland?
Matterson: Not at all. My manager is working on this and he will be in touch. Goodbye.

Agree, why would we be wasting our time trying to find Matterson a new home? That's what he pays his manager to do, who started this whole mess.

We can comfortably sit and wait for Matto to figure it out himself, but if he's not training with anyone and staring down the barrel of playing for the Magpies in Rd 1, the pressure is on Matto and not Tigers.

Then when Matto has started to thrash out a deal, we can look at the offending club and decide what we might want from them. And also, all potential suitors know they need to come offering Tigers something.

The club knows what they want in return for him...I'm saying put the idea into the heads of other clubs and watch the movie unfold by saying "we will give you matterson for this" rather than have clubs come to us and say "we will offer you this". Just proactive and I don't think he cares what team he plays for as long as the coach tells him he's better than everybody else and pays him overs.

I think you're probably overstating what the club can realistically expect to get in return I'm afraid. Look at it from the prospective other club's perspective: they're going to be getting a good player, but one who wants his contract upgraded to market rate.

Let's say it emerged that Nicoll-Klokstad was on big unders at the Raiders and willing to leave but only for a market contract of, say, $700k a year. The Tigers might be super keen to do that deal but what if the Raiders said they'd only release him if we also gave up two of our most promising juniors. Now it's not just market rate but also a sweetener. If you assume the contract the player wants is effectively his value as a free agent why would a club want to pay more than that?

Given they shouldn't be expecting much, I also think the Tigers are relatively happy to play hardball here. We're not really expecting to compete in 2020 and, more to the point, $300-400k sat on the sidelines is buttons compared to how much cap room we've wasted in the last couple of years. The Tigers don't have to be in any rush and certainly won't improve the market by looking desperate. Much better to let another club make all the running and just when they've got themselves excited about a deal come in with a "we won't release unless..."

 

[hodgo]

see we signed that super fast kid from Lebanon 9s side
[link text](https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/lebanon-could-field-two-sets-of-brothers-at-world-cup-9s/news-story/be136b1a99f75ccc038b5081eed3df06?fbclid=IwAR06odgtLAfsNDurVbLxEGCYKQTTsdbGWR7MbvCJSNn-KXDrybRNLQv6-ao)

 

[NT_Tiger]

@hodgo Superfast kid behind a paywall.

 

[OzLuke]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us....get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

How would that work?

Tigers: Hello, is this Ian Warriors, head of recruitment at the New Zealand Warriors?
Warriors: Yes it is. What can I do for you?
Tigers: Would you like to take one back row forward, slightly used, good engine off our hands? He's going to need about $600,000 a year.
Warriors: Why that sounds like a bargain! Sign us up.
Tigers: Great. Oh, one thing: we're going to need Cuzzy Promusung-Youngster in return.
Warriors: Hmm, less good but still ok.
Tigers: Great, hold the line please.

...

Tigers: Hey Ryan, we've got a new home for you. How much would you like to live in Auckland?
Matterson: Not at all. My manager is working on this and he will be in touch. Goodbye.

Agree, why would we be wasting our time trying to find Matterson a new home? That's what he pays his manager to do, who started this whole mess.

We can comfortably sit and wait for Matto to figure it out himself, but if he's not training with anyone and staring down the barrel of playing for the Magpies in Rd 1, the pressure is on Matto and not Tigers.

Then when Matto has started to thrash out a deal, we can look at the offending club and decide what we might want from them. And also, all potential suitors know they need to come offering Tigers something.

The club knows what they want in return for him...I'm saying put the idea into the heads of other clubs and watch the movie unfold by saying "we will give you matterson for this" rather than have clubs come to us and say "we will offer you this". Just proactive and I don't think he cares what team he plays for as long as the coach tells him he's better than everybody else and pays him overs.

I think you're probably overstating what the club can realistically expect to get in return I'm afraid. Look at it from the prospective other club's perspective: they're going to be getting a good player, but one who wants his contract upgraded to market rate.

Let's say it emerged that Nicoll-Klokstad was on big unders at the Raiders and willing to leave but only for a market contract of, say, $700k a year. The Tigers might be super keen to do that deal but what if the Raiders said they'd only release him if we also gave up two of our most promising juniors. Now it's not just market rate but also a sweetener. If you assume the contract the player wants is effectively his value as a free agent why would a club want to pay more than that?

Given they shouldn't be expecting much, I also think the Tigers are relatively happy to play hardball here. We're not really expecting to compete in 2020 and, more to the point, $300-400k sat on the sidelines is buttons compared to how much cap room we've wasted in the last couple of years. The Tigers don't have to be in any rush and certainly won't improve the market by looking desperate. Much better to let another club make all the running and just when they've got themselves excited about a deal come in with a "we won't release unless..."

I see what you're saying, and I know that we aren't going to offer Matterson and get say a fifita from the broncos, but it would be good that for a change we are the ones getting into other clubs' and their players heads rather than the other way around. How many times have we lost players/coaches because other clubs just start putting the word around?

 

[balmain boy]

see we signed that super fast kid from Lebanon 9s side
[link text](https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/lebanon-could-field-two-sets-of-brothers-at-world-cup-9s/news-story/be136b1a99f75ccc038b5081eed3df06?fbclid=IwAR06odgtLAfsNDurVbLxEGCYKQTTsdbGWR7MbvCJSNn-KXDrybRNLQv6-ao)

I presume you mean Josh Rizk from the Balmain SG Ball side?

 

[The_Patriot]

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he's knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn't chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us....get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

How would that work?

Tigers: Hello, is this Ian Warriors, head of recruitment at the New Zealand Warriors?
Warriors: Yes it is. What can I do for you?
Tigers: Would you like to take one back row forward, slightly used, good engine off our hands? He's going to need about $600,000 a year.
Warriors: Why that sounds like a bargain! Sign us up.
Tigers: Great. Oh, one thing: we're going to need Cuzzy Promusung-Youngster in return.
Warriors: Hmm, less good but still ok.
Tigers: Great, hold the line please.

...

Tigers: Hey Ryan, we've got a new home for you. How much would you like to live in Auckland?
Matterson: Not at all. My manager is working on this and he will be in touch. Goodbye.

Exactly.

It needs to play out the way it is. The club is doing the right thing.

End of the day we dont have to release the bum, we can introduce him to State cup and leave him there.
The club know they have no chance to force him to play somewhere he doesnt want to

 

[The_Patriot]

I have no doubt Pascoe and Maguire already know who Matterson intends to try and link with.

Cards close to our chest and let him reveal it then ask for the sky.