Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Spud_Murphy]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Yeah it’s tiresome isn’t it? They act like we’re the only team that has ever lost players to other clubs. Yes we’ve certainly lost some good ones, but so have many others, including the Bulldogs who haven’t set the world on fire in recent seasons.

 

[balmain boy]

Seyfarth is a tough one. He probably won't play first grade next season, but he could well be a good solid first grader in 2 years time. Hard to keep him in the meantime.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

 

[gallagher]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Penrith copped heaps when they guys left but it goes away when you start winning. Us not winning is the problem

 

[JC99]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Penrith copped heaps when they guys left but it goes away when you start winning. Us not winning is the problem

That’s it, any issues about player unrest, losing stars, anything all goes away if you just win some games of footy. It’s why we’re such an easy target for journalists, we suck ?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

 

[cochise]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

 

[gallagher]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

That's correct Cochise, they weren't big losses but we didn't replace them adequately.

 

[cochise]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

That's correct Cochise, they weren't big losses but we didn't replace them adequately.

I agree with that

 

[jirskyr]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

Well for starters we didn't let Tedesco go, he was poached from us. There's a very large difference between "letting players go" and being out-competed by bigger clubs with bigger wallets. Penrith are one of the clubs with a bigger wallet.

On their specific cattle, Wade Graham has played 6 Origins and 13 finals appearances. Michael Jennings has made 16 finals appearances. Parramatta basically built their finals-bound side on a Penrith Panthers expat skeleton.

 

[tbones10]

Just saw that the slimers have just signed Keegan Hipgrave, that is one that we could have used. His natural aggression and toughness would have added to our pack, would be wasted at the slimers, you can't have two meat axes (Brown and Hipgrave) in the same side, not unless the rules change.
Has anyone heard want is happening with Bunty Afoa, last I heard he had permission from the warriors to go and we were interested, then nothing.

 

[JC99]

Just saw that the slimers have just signed Keegan Hipgrave, that is one that we could have used. His natural aggression and toughness would have added to our pack, would be wasted at the slimers, you can't have two meat axes (Brown and Hipgrave) in the same side, not unless the rules change.
Has anyone heard want is happening with Bunty Afoa, last I heard he had permission from the warriors to go and we were interested, then nothing.

Hipgrave isn’t bad but man is he stupid. He’s very, very raw all aggression not much footy smarts. I was thinking he’s the type of guy Madge might like to work with based on how he plays but guess he’s off to eels, he won’t get much game time there probably. Maybe off the bench

 

[pawsandclaws1]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

I noticed you failed to mention Taylor and his treatment of one of the WTs' best ever players. An SOO player not good enough for selection in a WTs' team. Do you believe Taylor's treatment of this player may not have gone down well with his team mates? Do you consider this may have been an issue impacting retention and future recruitment?

Brown had attitude problems, the same problems opposing teams have difficulty controlling right up to his selection in the SOO team.

IMO Sironen's inconsistent performances were still good enough for selection in our team. Obviously Manly believed he had much to offer.

Have you considered a career as a fiction novelist? The selective recollection of history is a wonderful thing to behold.

 

[tiger05premier]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

They were a big part of a long period of inconsistency Madge is now trying to turn around

As spud said we really only lost a few really high quality footballers

 

[tiger05premier]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

Bayley probably better than Curtis after one full season in NRL

 

[Red88_Tiger]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

Bayley probably better than Curtis after one full season in NRL

Bailey looks like he has grown taller and lost a bit of puppy fat this year

 

[cochise]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/storm-circle-burton-as-nrl-player-market-heats-up-20201107-p56ceh.html

Quite a bit of news / rumours here.

Burton, JAC, Seyfarth - that appears related to WT

Good to see they felt the need to again list the players who aren't at Tigers any more, including of course Aaron Woods who hasn't done anything except get dropped from Origin since he left.

Interesting though they didn't list the talent that had "slipped through" Penrith's hands in recent years, given the lead for the story is the potential departure of Matt Burton. E.g. RCG, Waqa Blake, Corey Harawira-Naera, DWZ, Tyrone Peachey, James Roberts, Moylan, Segeyaro, Matt Eisenhuth, Tom Eisenhuth, Gavin Cooper, Blake Austin, Wade Graham, Michael Jennings etc.

Not one of those players is even close to some of the players that we’ve let go. Hilarious to compare the 2

You’re kidding right? Tedesco, JAC, Papenhyuzen & Fifita are the only real losses I’d lose any sleep over, the rest are average, yes even Brown. Woods has gone backwards, Moses is still a tanker, Curtis Sironen has improved a bit, but is often injured and still not a big loss, he hasn’t done too well with Manly this year, same with Taupau. Most of the other other losses the media always drag up go back so far they’re not even worth mentioning.

I think former Penrith players like RCG, Blake, Jennings, Cooper & Graham were pretty significant losses at the time, they also let Luke Lewis go and he and Graham won a Premiership with Cronulla while Penrith were still struggling, but crickets from the media about theirs or other teams losses, as usual.

Woods was a Kangaroo, Brown a SOO rep, Moses and Sironen consistent first graders. For a team lacking quality, that quartet would have added significantly to our team. All four are also local juniors. We obviously had an issue with the identification of talent and it's retention, as well as a coach at that time.

Woods was the Captain encouraging other players to sign with other clubs, Brown had attitude problems and a history of uncontrolled aggression, Moses at a massive contract on offer for close to 12 months that he hadn't signed, Sironen was inconsistent and wanted to play in the halves. You are very good at rewriting history.

I noticed you failed to mention Taylor and his treatment of one of the WTs' best ever players. An SOO player not good enough for selection in a WTs' team. Do you believe Taylor's treatment of this player may not have gone down well with his team mates? Do you consider this may have been an issue impacting retention and future recruitment?

Brown had attitude problems, the same problems opposing teams have difficulty controlling right up to his selection in the SOO team.

IMO Sironen's inconsistent performances were still good enough for selection in our team. Obviously Manly believed he had much to offer.

Have you considered a career as a fiction novelist? The selective recollection of history is a wonderful thing to behold.

There is nothing in my post that is untrue, I'd even give you the benefit if you could show that you were saying these same things when the players in questioned were released, same goes for your constant ranting about Paps. You are very good at raising retention issues for years gone by, were you raising these things when the players were actually released?

I'd be happy to show you some of my fiction writing if you would like to see it? lol

 

[Russell]

Why was Farah ostrasised by Taylor? Don't think he dropped him because he was a SOO player.

Please feel free to enlighten me. (Not just because Taylor was a dope)

 

[diedpretty]

Ivan special

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-was-just-in-shock-devastated-mansour-opens-up-on-panthers-axing-20201106-p56cby.html

The strangest thing about this story is that there is a restaurant called Abbatoir Blues. Who calls a restaurant that?

 

[cochise]

Ivan special

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/i-was-just-in-shock-devastated-mansour-opens-up-on-panthers-axing-20201106-p56cby.html

The strangest thing about this story is that there is a restaurant called Abbatoir Blues. Who calls a restaurant that?

It is at Homebush near ANZ stadium in the old Abattoir that used to be on the site.