Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Telltails]

South's have made the biggest statement about Reynolds and where they see he is at - you can use that info to make an argument against Maguire to attract him here, or you can take notice.
What Reynolds wants, and what he can offer for it, is not being accepted by the club who knows him best. Just maybe the people who write the cheques are taking notice of that.
Maguire will always be judged by his results but an aging player who is looking to be financially rewarded for the service that he gave to another club rarely works out well - especially when they never wanted to leave.

 

[Thaiger]

Naden does not fit my profile of a good signing unless he is on very little money. If we are paying him anything greater than $350k per season it would be a no from me. If we have to make him in our top half of high paid players then we are screwing ourselves long term strategically.

Yeah i'm not a big fan of Naden

If we could get him immediately then ok, we need immediate reinforcements out wide. Sign him on an 18 month contract at 200k with a club option for another year at 300k. That's all he deserves.

He's unproven and with a lot of off field issues. He's not exactly significantly better than what we have now, we can't afford to give long contracts to players who are 50/50 chances of mostly playing nsw cup. He's got to prove himself otherwise he'll be here for the cushy job

Tigers seem to be developing a fairly strong indigenous connection across the various grades. Naden may fit right in and feel at home with a heap of fellow indigenous players around him. No doubt the bloke has talent however definitely needs to stay off the bags, especially the night before a game. If he came reasonably cheap then he's not the worst signing.

Here we go again - signing a player who really could be another one who just chews up a space with off field issues etc, and far from being a fait accompli successful purchase - in other words just high risk. I wouldn't go near him.

It seems to me we are just clutching at straws yet again and if we had played the longer game a few seasons ago we might have been reaping greater rewards now.

Someone on here a while ago posted a video of him working on a sheep farm near Wellington where he's from - he really came across as having a good head on his shoulders. I wouldn't write him off, it's easy to make mistakes at that age, but he comes across as the kind of person who can learn and grow from those mistakes.

That's all well and good but there are others in the queue who should be given a chance as well. I'm sick to death of this club bringing in players for a second chance. How about we look under the hood and support the ones we are supposed to be developing?

Here we have a promising Jersey Flegg side and you can't get boo out of the club showing highlights etc this season and we are up to Round 5. The match reports and team list intro's tell us all nothing but the same cut and paste garbage.

I've said it before but none of our young blokes except for one or two, get to actually meet, let alone train with first grade on or off season and I'd be surprised if it's the same everywhere else. Can someone tell me which first graders have actually ever shown interest in our juniors because if they have I've not witnessed it in the last 10 seasons?

 

[Spud_Murphy]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

It does not make him a 'cotton wool baby'...he is a tough player. Madge pushed him to play hurt, he almost broke down for good.

Since then, coaches like Bennet, have managed his time / training and at 30 he is looking the best he has in years.

It is not "cotton wool", it is common sense.

**Madge, like him or or loathe him, is old school. 1000 miles an hour / get out there and play.

Problem is that players know this and they also know that such an approach can knock years off their career.**

If this is the case then why are we persisting with Madge as our coach? His old school methods are clearly not working with the current players we have, while at the same time it’s putting off any potential new players, who could actually lift the team into a being finals contender, from coming here. It’s a completely senseless scenario.

 

[Needaname]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-erin-clark-resigns-with-gold-coast-titans-transfer-centre-signings-tracker-new-deal/news-story/1e3963c7567d411732f8d8fd25b1d75d

 

[tony soprano]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

Please.

Please who ???

Souths players mentioned it as well .....how long did Harry Grant play with his injured hand for example

I even mentioned it before the Warriors game , rest a few players

You believe everything players tell you

So your assertion is three different players who have never complained about any other coach are all in some way conspiring against Madge?

Have you considered that perhaps it’s true and maybe there is a correlation between this and our inability to attract big name players as well as our continued decline in performances? He may have won a premiership in the past but his style, both tactically and regarding man management, does not suit the modern game.

Okay mate you believe what the players tell you. They would have agendas or anything ? do you always believe what people tell you?


I couldn’t be bothered arguing with you but encourage you to look at the facts. Here’s a tip we have one of the best nrl physio’s in the nrl with the least injuries this year.


This Really points to a coach making players play injured.

Another point for you despite pressure on his job Madge has taken real care easing juniors into grade too


Where were you when the club ruined players careers like Lawrence when there was real evidence the club was neglected as you claim now.

 

[ElleryHanley]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

It does not make him a 'cotton wool baby'...he is a tough player. Madge pushed him to play hurt, he almost broke down for good.

Since then, coaches like Bennet, have managed his time / training and at 30 he is looking the best he has in years.

It is not "cotton wool", it is common sense.

**Madge, like him or or loathe him, is old school. 1000 miles an hour / get out there and play.

Problem is that players know this and they also know that such an approach can knock years off their career.**

If this is the case then why are we persisting with Madge as our coach? His old school methods are clearly not working with the current players we have, while at the same time it’s putting off any potential new players, who could actually lift the team into a being finals contender, from coming here. It’s a completely senseless scenario.

I was a big Madge fan...but my personal feeling is we are persisting simply because of what went on prior to him coming. Instability, multiple coaches. I feel like people don't want more of that...so they say 'keep him!'.

But...on his record...it is hard to really make a case for him. We are 3 wins from our last 18 games or so.

Things need to change and it seems unlikely he will.

Let's hope they do though.

 

[Bula]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

That is all true.

There are two ways of looking at it...

1. Mbye you are on 800 grand...get out there and earn it! In the old days, players played with far worse than floating bone in their knees.

VS

2. Mbye obviously was pressured to play hurt, may have long term probs as a result, and most players know Madge has a rep for pushing players. Good or bad, that rep is there.

At 35000 per game you can play when told to.

 

[avocadoontoast]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

Please.

Please who ???

Souths players mentioned it as well .....how long did Harry Grant play with his injured hand for example

I even mentioned it before the Warriors game , rest a few players

You believe everything players tell you

So your assertion is three different players who have never complained about any other coach are all in some way conspiring against Madge?

Have you considered that perhaps it’s true and maybe there is a correlation between this and our inability to attract big name players as well as our continued decline in performances? He may have won a premiership in the past but his style, both tactically and regarding man management, does not suit the modern game.

Okay mate you believe what the players tell you. They would have agendas or anything ? do you always believe what people tell you?


I couldn’t be bothered arguing with you but encourage you to look at the facts. Here’s a tip we have one of the best nrl physio’s in the nrl with the least injuries this year.


This Really points to a coach making players play injured.

Another point for you despite pressure on his job Madge has taken real care easing juniors into grade too


Where were you when the club ruined players careers like Lawrence when there was real evidence the club was neglected as you claim now.

Why would they have an agenda against Madge and no other coach they’ve played for?

 

[ElleryHanley]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

That is all true.

There are two ways of looking at it...

1. Mbye you are on 800 grand...get out there and earn it! In the old days, players played with far worse than floating bone in their knees.

VS

2. Mbye obviously was pressured to play hurt, may have long term probs as a result, and most players know Madge has a rep for pushing players. Good or bad, that rep is there.

At 35000 per game you can play when told to.

At that is a valid argument.

Mbye 800 grand...captain at the time...surely you get out there and lead? Floating bone? Please, harden up...

VS

Players see a senior player coerced into playing hurt / long term ramifications.

I don't know what is right...but in 1988 it would have been expected. In 2021 it is probably not helping us keep / attract elite players.

 

[Telltails]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

That is all true.

There are two ways of looking at it...

1. Mbye you are on 800 grand...get out there and earn it! In the old days, players played with far worse than floating bone in their knees.

VS

2. Mbye obviously was pressured to play hurt, may have long term probs as a result, and most players know Madge has a rep for pushing players. Good or bad, that rep is there.

At 35000 per game you can play when told to.

At that is a valid argument.

Mbye 800 grand...captain at the time...surely you get out there and lead? Floating bone? Please, harden up...

VS

Players see a senior player coerced into playing hurt / long term ramifications.

I don't know what is right...but in 1988 it would have been expected. In 2021 it is probably not helping us keep / attract elite players.

Where is this coming from? Who coerced Mybe and when did he confirm it/ share it?

 

[Needaname]

Madge has transformed this club off the field.
If we don’t believe we are tactically getting the job done on it than get another assistant in that can.

I would love for Madge to stay with the tigers for as long as he wants. His old school methods are being questioned but isn’t he doing exactly what you would expect our players to want to be like.

If you want a bit of insight in what it is to be a professional player, check out Lebron James’ Instagram. The guy never stops improving his basketball game. We need our players to be thinking more along these lines.
Instead of stuffing about and cracking jokes at home, Nofa and Robers could actually watch some games on their spare time and learn how one another play.

It’s all attitude and it stinks with some of the players. We crucify our one player that busts his bum every game and goes home wearing every result of every player in the 17 week in week out.

 

[Devon Head]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

That is all true.

There are two ways of looking at it...

1. Mbye you are on 800 grand...get out there and earn it! In the old days, players played with far worse than floating bone in their knees.

VS

2. Mbye obviously was pressured to play hurt, may have long term probs as a result, and most players know Madge has a rep for pushing players. Good or bad, that rep is there.

At 35000 per game you can play when told to.

At that is a valid argument.

Mbye 800 grand...captain at the time...surely you get out there and lead? Floating bone? Please, harden up...

VS

Players see a senior player coerced into playing hurt / long term ramifications.

I don't know what is right...but in 1988 it would have been expected. In 2021 it is probably not helping us keep / attract elite players.

Where is this coming from? Who coerced Mybe and when did he confirm it/ share it?

He openly advised the public in a recent interview that it wasn't the case at all and that this was a media beat up. He did say he was playing hurt at times and required minor surgery to rectify however denied he was forced to play injured or his injury was misdiagnosed by the club.

 

[barra]

can someone tell Hagipantelis to get out of the media and focus on turning this club around?

Far be it for me to be the Lone Ranger but good on you Lee for supporting him. He has supported WTs publicly before so he is consistent. Well done.

Agree mate, I don't see what he's saying that could cause anyone grief?

 

[Telltails]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

That is all true.

There are two ways of looking at it...

1. Mbye you are on 800 grand...get out there and earn it! In the old days, players played with far worse than floating bone in their knees.

VS

2. Mbye obviously was pressured to play hurt, may have long term probs as a result, and most players know Madge has a rep for pushing players. Good or bad, that rep is there.

At 35000 per game you can play when told to.

At that is a valid argument.

Mbye 800 grand...captain at the time...surely you get out there and lead? Floating bone? Please, harden up...

VS

Players see a senior player coerced into playing hurt / long term ramifications.

I don't know what is right...but in 1988 it would have been expected. In 2021 it is probably not helping us keep / attract elite players.

Where is this coming from? Who coerced Mybe and when did he confirm it/ share it?

He openly advised the public in a recent interview that it wasn't the case at all and that this was a media beat up. He did say he was playing hurt at times and required minor surgery to rectify however denied he was forced to play injured or his injury was misdiagnosed by the club.

Thanks- because that is damning and people read stuff on here believe it and share it whether they have checked it out or not.

 

[teddy23]

Grub I know....

But Will Chambers seems like he’s available for this season, a centre who’s strong defensively a former SOS representative and 2x premiership winner with experience

Would be refreshing to have a centre who isn’t terrible at reading plays and being a liability defensively

Not much options out there for this year, so wouldn’t be a bad option

 

[Devon Head]

Grub I know....

But Will Chambers seems like he’s available for this season, a centre who’s strong defensively a former SOS representative and 2x premiership winner with experience

Would be refreshing to have a centre who isn’t terrible at reading plays and being a liability defensively

Not much options out there for this year, so wouldn’t be a bad option

I'd be all for it. Quality player regardless of his grubbiness.

 

[TillLindemann]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

That is all true.

There are two ways of looking at it...

1. Mbye you are on 800 grand...get out there and earn it! In the old days, players played with far worse than floating bone in their knees.

VS

2. Mbye obviously was pressured to play hurt, may have long term probs as a result, and most players know Madge has a rep for pushing players. Good or bad, that rep is there.

At 35000 per game you can play when told to.

At that is a valid argument.

Mbye 800 grand...captain at the time...surely you get out there and lead? Floating bone? Please, harden up...

VS

Players see a senior player coerced into playing hurt / long term ramifications.

I don't know what is right...but in 1988 it would have been expected. In 2021 it is probably not helping us keep / attract elite players.

Where is this coming from? Who coerced Mybe and when did he confirm it/ share it?

He openly advised the public in a recent interview that it wasn't the case at all and that this was a media beat up. He did say he was playing hurt at times and required minor surgery to rectify however denied he was forced to play injured or his injury was misdiagnosed by the club.

Nonetheless it will be repeated here endlessly as if it's gospel.

 

[barra]

Naden, while a gun in attack, doesn't solve any of our defensive issues. there's a reason why Penrith benched him in favour of May through the finals last year.

Yep you're right and it was actually his defence that was spoken about as the reason.
Which is a worry for us!

 

[TigerWest]

*"As much as we’d love it to happen, the reality is it’s a hundred to one given the history between the champion little no.7 and Tigers coach Michael Maguire.

Maguire was notorious during his tenure at South Sydney for pushing players to play no matter the circumstances."*


So, does this mean Reynolds is another cotton wool baby.......

No Dazza ...just has to be managed correctly at this stage of his career ..like Baa had to be at the Dogs


I get that now, but are we assuming Pooper means based on what Reynolds saw back then, he won't be managed well now?? or was it that Madge forced Reynolds to played injured back then..... - I just though the comment from the Poopster was a bit vague....as usual

Madge still forces players to play injured .....Mbye has said it ,Matterson has said it , Grant said it

Please.

Please who ???

Souths players mentioned it as well .....how long did Harry Grant play with his injured hand for example

I even mentioned it before the Warriors game , rest a few players

You believe everything players tell you

So your assertion is three different players who have never complained about any other coach are all in some way conspiring against Madge?

Have you considered that perhaps it’s true and maybe there is a correlation between this and our inability to attract big name players as well as our continued decline in performances? He may have won a premiership in the past but his style, both tactically and regarding man management, does not suit the modern game.

Okay mate you believe what the players tell you. They would have agendas or anything ? do you always believe what people tell you?


I couldn’t be bothered arguing with you but encourage you to look at the facts. Here’s a tip we have one of the best nrl physio’s in the nrl with the least injuries this year.


This Really points to a coach making players play injured.

Another point for you despite pressure on his job Madge has taken real care easing juniors into grade too


Where were you when the club ruined players careers like Lawrence when there was real evidence the club was neglected as you claim now.

Why would they have an agenda against Madge and no other coach they’ve played for?

Do you think any of the 3 player's game will improve after leaving here?

 

[ElleryHanley]

Grub I know....

But Will Chambers seems like he’s available for this season, a centre who’s strong defensively a former SOS representative and 2x premiership winner with experience

Would be refreshing to have a centre who isn’t terrible at reading plays and being a liability defensively

Not much options out there for this year, so wouldn’t be a bad option

Has signed with the Sharks though?

I would def like him. A center who can tackle...!