Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Lukic]

If the Knights are genuinely still interested in Brooks, we'd be absolutely nuts not to let him go.

Yes, he's performed better recently, especially with Hastings in the 7. But it doesn't really override years of average at best play and significant spells which were simply not first grade standard. He is what he is at this point - a player who probably belongs in the 14 and will try his best, but doesn't really have many strings on his bow as a full-time half.

He's also on a ridiculous deal for a player of his quality. Whatever it is next year, whether it's $850k or as high as $1.1m, it's way too much.

So putting the debate as to whether he's better than Madden or Doueihi aside, even if he does present some upgrade on them, it's not a big one and certainly not enough to justify any substantial amount of money.

If the Knights want to pay half of his salary (say $500k), that's the difference between a rep level player and a fringe first grader/reserve grader in most positions. Isn't Papali'i signed on 600k a year? Just shows what we're potentially missing out on. I'll take an edge of Doueihi/Madden and Crichton over Brooks and Seyfarth.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Just watched the highlights again the club needs to do everything in its power to keep Jackson Hastings at this club he is in every thing if you play brooks madden or doughi outside of Hastings they all look 10 times better but a combination of them 3 without Hastings gives me very little confidence I’m super excited to see what a Hastings doughi combinations looks like with Laurie out the back for the first time in a long time this club is actually starting to get some Good depth

No ifs of buts he is the captain on/off field.
We need him for success in the next few years

 

[pawsandclaws1]

If the Knights are genuinely still interested in Brooks, we'd be absolutely nuts not to let him go.

Yes, he's performed better recently, especially with Hastings in the 7. But it doesn't really override years of average at best play and significant spells which were simply not first grade standard. He is what he is at this point - a player who probably belongs in the 14 and will try his best, but doesn't really have many strings on his bow as a full-time half.

He's also on a ridiculous deal for a player of his quality. Whatever it is next year, whether it's $850k or as high as $1.1m, it's way too much.

So putting the debate as to whether he's better than Madden or Doueihi aside, even if he does present some upgrade on them, it's not a big one and certainly not enough to justify any substantial amount of money.

If the Knights want to pay half of his salary (say $500k), that's the difference between a rep level player and a fringe first grader/reserve grader in most positions. Isn't Papali'i signed on 600k a year? Just shows what we're potentially missing out on. I'll take an edge of Doueihi/Madden and Crichton over Brooks and Seyfarth.

Can you please the figure he is on with a link?

 

[batboy]

Read some of the posters' contributions on this website and look at the names who wanted to throw a lot of cash at him. He is very average in that team.

Na…. He’s very average!!
If he’s a 400k middle in any team, I’ll eat my hat. 800k is outrageous!!

 

[batboy]

That was pretty impressive pace to chase down Dufty with ease

Didn't know he had wheels

Think I saw him communicating with the fullback to where he was headed also which helped….
I’ve seen him have better games (in better sides) but he’s big, strong and quick… hope he makes a good fist of it

 

[Lukic]

Can you please the figure he is on with a link?

Revealed: Tigers’ $1.1m Brooks anchor as club responds to rumours of father-son swap deal

Revealed: Wests Tigers’ $1.1m Luke Brooks anchor amid rumours of shock swap deal

www.foxsports.com.au

Many different numbers quoted in the media. We won't know the exact number, but I think it's fair to say it falls somewhere in the 800k-1.1 mil range (more likely on the lower end).

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Revealed: Tigers’ $1.1m Brooks anchor as club responds to rumours of father-son swap deal

Revealed: Wests Tigers’ $1.1m Luke Brooks anchor amid rumours of shock swap deal

www.foxsports.com.au

Many different numbers quoted in the media. We won't know the exact number, but I think it's fair to say it falls somewhere in the 800k-1.1 mil range (more likely on the lower end).

The media provides these figures with no comment from the club as these matters are confidential. Secondly, there are suggestions his contract was back dated so context is important when quoting figures. But we know we cannot rely on the media to be accurate as there is not confirmation from the club.

 

[Buttface]

Na…. He’s very average!!
If he’s a 400k middle in any team, I’ll eat my hat. 800k is outrageous!!

I think you ment to say “I’ll eat my bat”.
What ever cash his on is too much for the Tigers. There is only 2 players in that team I’d take; Burton and that young winger looked ok but we got Topou.

 

[batboy]

The media provides these figures with no comment from the club as these matters are confidential. Secondly, there are suggestions his contract was back dated so context is important when quoting figures. But we know we cannot rely on the media to be accurate as there is not confirmation from the club.

Yeah - Luke Kearys wages are 850 or 1.3 - depending on weather the story says he’s staying or going

 

[Wombat]

If the Knights are genuinely still interested in Brooks, we'd be absolutely nuts not to let him go.

Yes, he's performed better recently, especially with Hastings in the 7. But it doesn't really override years of average at best play and significant spells which were simply not first grade standard. He is what he is at this point - a player who probably belongs in the 14 and will try his best, but doesn't really have many strings on his bow as a full-time half.

He's also on a ridiculous deal for a player of his quality. Whatever it is next year, whether it's $850k or as high as $1.1m, it's way too much.

So putting the debate as to whether he's better than Madden or Doueihi aside, even if he does present some upgrade on them, it's not a big one and certainly not enough to justify any substantial amount of money.

If the Knights want to pay half of his salary (say $500k), that's the difference between a rep level player and a fringe first grader/reserve grader in most positions. Isn't Papali'i signed on 600k a year? Just shows what we're potentially missing out on. I'll take an edge of Doueihi/Madden and Crichton over Brooks and Seyfarth.

If they want Luke Brooks, they should be paying more of his contract than $500k.

The good part about Brooks playing well is it will increase his value to other clubs.
But also gives us the power to keep him as well... that way, the tigers don't have to be desperate to get rid of him.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

That try saver on Dufty was a great effort. Showed real speed.

I was strongly against the signing of Naden, but after listening to a few things Madge said, it seems like he has identified that Naden is a specialist left centre, but loses his way on the right.

So I'm more open minded now. First game he didn't make any bad reads in defence, that's all a good start.

He'd have a point to prove too. Got a few indigenous boys in the squad plus Badger is still involved so there's a good support circle starting to form. Might curry favour with other talented indigenous lads.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If the Knights are genuinely still interested in Brooks, we'd be absolutely nuts not to let him go.

Yes, he's performed better recently, especially with Hastings in the 7. But it doesn't really override years of average at best play and significant spells which were simply not first grade standard. He is what he is at this point - a player who probably belongs in the 14 and will try his best, but doesn't really have many strings on his bow as a full-time half.

He's also on a ridiculous deal for a player of his quality. Whatever it is next year, whether it's $850k or as high as $1.1m, it's way too much.

So putting the debate as to whether he's better than Madden or Doueihi aside, even if he does present some upgrade on them, it's not a big one and certainly not enough to justify any substantial amount of money.

If the Knights want to pay half of his salary (say $500k), that's the difference between a rep level player and a fringe first grader/reserve grader in most positions. Isn't Papali'i signed on 600k a year? Just shows what we're potentially missing out on. I'll take an edge of Doueihi/Madden and Crichton over Brooks and Seyfarth.

Agreed. Brooks has looked better moving to the six but he's not worth the big money to justify playing "well" as opposed to what you'd expect from a player earning marquee money.

Let him go, re-sign Madden as we lose nothing between him and Brooks playing outside Duke and it'll be cheaper and free up a spot to chase Burton and put him in the centres with either To'a or Naden.

 

[tony soprano]

Losing garner hurts.

 

[TigerVinnie]

Losing garner hurts.

agree, start of the season I wouldn't have mind - but he's been massive this year.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Losing garner hurts.

To the top team. Cleary sees it, we apparently don't value it as much.

 

[hank37w]

By all reports Trent is an amazing number 2 but he just not a head coach

Probably wouldn't be a bad move.

Ben Gardiner is moving on next year as far as I am aware, so we are probably looking at someone as an attack coach for next season at least.

A lot of people think Trent is shit as a head coach so your reference to him as a number 2 is quite appropriate.

 

[jirskyr]

agree, start of the season I wouldn't have mind - but he's been massive this year.

Still too passive in games for me. Scoring a few tries and running some good lines, on occasion, is not enough workload. Yesterday was one of Garner's better performances, including some dirty carries, but we've had Garner on the books for 5 years now and we are still waiting for him to cement his position in the side.

Being overtaken by Kelma during the pre-season, prior to the Panthers deal, was not a good sign for Garner.

That's not saying I don't like the guy and would not keep him, much like I appreciated Momirovski or Eisenhuth, but I would certainly not get into a bidding war for Garner. Garner is a good addition for an established side, which Penrith are and Tigers are not.

 

[finnzo]

Probably wouldn't be a bad move.

Ben Gardiner is moving on next year as far as I am aware, so we are probably looking at someone as an attack coach for next season at least.

A lot of people think Trent is shit as a head coach so your reference to him as a number 2 is quite appropriate.

Where is Ben Gardiner off to?

 

[Bob]

I think the blokes who are saying let brooks go for 500 and cut our loses are the same ones that were screaming when we were paying almost a million out of our cap to players playing for the opposition.
The idea of paying brooks 500,000 dollars to play against us is insane.

 

[hank37w]

He deserves every bit he gets. It's always someone else's fault for his defensive lapses. He never takes responsibility and he has publicly thrown his teammates under the bus

If I was him, I'd love the club for what it is as well if that club paid me half a mil and never held me accountable for my poor play.

I'm as critical as anyone of Nofo's defensive issues, but having said that Junior Tupou misses at least 1 tackle that leads to a try last night that Noffo makes easily.

Happy to see Junior play his 2nd game in the top grade and think he has a lot of potential but if fit Nofo still walks into the team despite his defensive issues until we have better.