Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tim Sheens]

People on this forum really don’t let stuff go.... not everyone is Adam Blair or Rob Jennings.

I’m not even sure who would he considered a good player lol you have to be in a crap team and perform good to count as good I think 😂

And even then, regardless of the thoughts or reasons as to why he didn’t perform to his best at WT, Blair did what few have ever done. Playing three hundred plus games and fifty odd internationals whilst missing comparatively few matches is a stellar career.

 

[Bones]

People on this forum really don’t let stuff go.... not everyone is Adam Blair or Rob Jennings.

I’m not even sure who would he considered a good player lol you have to be in a crap team and perform good to count as good I think ?

It’s fairly simple

JAC is an elite player who will instantly improve any team he goes too

Graham is an average player who won’t improve a team like ours one tiny bit, I would honestly prefer Momirovski to him. He is the exact player we need to steer clear of

CG is light years ahead of Momirovski. I’d take him if he was available, he’d be our best centre since the early day of Chris Lawrence.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

In other news

Dogs have signed Jack Hethrington on a two year deal

damn thought we had him

3 year deal, good luck to them, depends on the $

Max $1m 3 years I'd say is his worth

Dogs must have some salary cap space......
There Board is rabble so Sign away if you can't get your house in order the club won't progress.
Can see them having cap issues again at this rate.

 

[Goldust]

The Wests Tigers Name/Brand and Logo are controlled trademarks of the ARL Commission,
hence they cannot be re-named or altered

Ive heard before that the name and logo is protected. But is there a way the board can update the logo? It's so early 2000's

Would love to see some a bit more simple/classic and most importantly confident and know who we are.

South and Roosters have got it right.

The club do you 2 alternative logos on merch and promos which look good:
- ones the existing logo with the claws removed and placed in a shield
- the other is a WT in a shield

Sorry i know logos shouldnt be in this thread, but presentation of the club is important in attracting players
Plus it's fairly quiet on the signings....


Couldn’t agree more ?
Bulldogs,eels,panthers and Sharks all ditched their 2000’s logo


They were all around prior to 2000. Whats wrong with the logo we have. Why change it. What would you change it to. And finally how does that attract players to the club.

Really? I don’t remember that well.
Nothing wrong with it,just looks dated and a bit tacky in comparison to how good Balmain and the Magpies logos were.
Just me being picky ? not sure what I would change it to.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

People on this forum really don’t let stuff go.... not everyone is Adam Blair or Rob Jennings.

I’m not even sure who would he considered a good player lol you have to be in a crap team and perform good to count as good I think ?

It’s fairly simple

JAC is an elite player who will instantly improve any team he goes too

Graham is an average player who won’t improve a team like ours one tiny bit, I would honestly prefer Momirovski to him. He is the exact player we need to steer clear of

CG is light years ahead of Momirovski. I’d take him if he was available, he’d be our best centre since the early day of Chris Lawrence.

We need pace and that is a commodity Campbell Graham lacks. If you watch him on a chase he is so slow.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Lol Campbell Graham

The Robert Jennings comparison is bang on, he’s a seriously ordinary player in a very good team. If he was with us we’d all be wanting him dumped

Nope, Jennings is overweight and slower than a wet weekend playing on the wing.

CG is a young, tall lean, fast centre

They’re worlds apart

Isn't Grahams official height like 6ft+

 

[diedpretty]

Whats the point in blaming anyone everyday, week and year especially if they aren’t here or we can’t do anything about the current situation.

At the end of the day the players are contracted for another year or 2. Unless someone comes along and wants them it will stay that way.

The bigger issue is how do we turn around our image over the next 2yrs to become a destination club.

COE development no doubt will help, gun youngsters & results will change the perception but at the end of the day it will come down to cash & 3rd/4th party deals.

Panthers, Bulldogs, Eels, Roosters, Souths and even Manly can offer more money on/off the park than us.

We are one of the top supported club but struggling to recruit is a massive blight on our mgmt to have cashcows will to fund player deals.

Genuine question ....how do 3rd/4th party details work? Are they outside the salary cap? is there any limit to the amount that a coach/player can earn through these deals? How do we know how much each club offers in 3rd/4th party deals?

If the third party has any link to the club there is an overall club limit under the cap. If there is link between the third party and the club, it’s unlimited

I think you meant "if there is NO link .....it's unlimited"? That's a worry. Thanks for explaining.

Why is that a worry?

Because of accountability, equity and fairness. That's why it's a worry. You're ok with rich "external" benefactors being the determining factor in a player signing with a particular club?

What's the point of a salary cap if the ultimate composition of a team is determined by how much a player can receive in 3rd/4th party deals??

Because 3rd party deals are between the player and the 3rd party..Are you saying Musashi and Gatorade wouldn't provide Cameron Munster a deal to promote their products if he didn't play for the Storm..?

I'm saying that those deals need to be regulated and have a proportional limit of the total value of the player's contract that those deals attract.

I can't wait to see an NRL player promote Buxom Bella's Therapy Services of Leumeah as part of their 3rd/4th party deal!!!

They have to be registered with the NRL and approved..

And, is there some way that we, the punters, would know exactly how much a player is paid, both within the salary cap and from external sponsors?

Not just a total, but a breakdown of all sources of income that constitute their annual payments as a professional NRL player? Does that exist?

Is your wage published anywhere?

Public servants levels of pay are...teachers, police are...and it is the absolute norm for all comps featuring salary caps abroad...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

Personally, I feel it should be published in a salary cap controlled sport.

Fans deserve the right to know what impact a player will have on their future expectations. For example, if Tamou is coming here for 350 a year it is a great deal. If he is coming for 550 a year, it is an entirely different debate. Fans, ultimately, fund sport and everywhere else that is acknowledged.

I'm a teacher, I know that my salary is publicly available. Difference is it is a set wage and not in a salary competitive environment. I am a fan of the NFL and published salaries makes negotiations harder for clubs as players use previous players contracts as a measuring stick.

Could of guessed you were a teacher - real world - whats that?

lol, should have said former teacher and principal 😉 work in a different field now.

I was just being a smarty - i have a lot of teacher friends - i always gee them up about having never left school and the need to get a real job.

 

[Bula]

Whats the point in blaming anyone everyday, week and year especially if they aren’t here or we can’t do anything about the current situation.

At the end of the day the players are contracted for another year or 2. Unless someone comes along and wants them it will stay that way.

The bigger issue is how do we turn around our image over the next 2yrs to become a destination club.

COE development no doubt will help, gun youngsters & results will change the perception but at the end of the day it will come down to cash & 3rd/4th party deals.

Panthers, Bulldogs, Eels, Roosters, Souths and even Manly can offer more money on/off the park than us.

We are one of the top supported club but struggling to recruit is a massive blight on our mgmt to have cashcows will to fund player deals.

Genuine question ....how do 3rd/4th party details work? Are they outside the salary cap? is there any limit to the amount that a coach/player can earn through these deals? How do we know how much each club offers in 3rd/4th party deals?

If the third party has any link to the club there is an overall club limit under the cap. If there is link between the third party and the club, it’s unlimited

I think you meant "if there is NO link .....it's unlimited"? That's a worry. Thanks for explaining.

Why is that a worry?

Because of accountability, equity and fairness. That's why it's a worry. You're ok with rich "external" benefactors being the determining factor in a player signing with a particular club?

What's the point of a salary cap if the ultimate composition of a team is determined by how much a player can receive in 3rd/4th party deals??

Because 3rd party deals are between the player and the 3rd party..Are you saying Musashi and Gatorade wouldn't provide Cameron Munster a deal to promote their products if he didn't play for the Storm..?

I'm saying that those deals need to be regulated and have a proportional limit of the total value of the player's contract that those deals attract.

I can't wait to see an NRL player promote Buxom Bella's Therapy Services of Leumeah as part of their 3rd/4th party deal!!!

They have to be registered with the NRL and approved..

And, is there some way that we, the punters, would know exactly how much a player is paid, both within the salary cap and from external sponsors?

Not just a total, but a breakdown of all sources of income that constitute their annual payments as a professional NRL player? Does that exist?

Is your wage published anywhere?

Public servants levels of pay are...teachers, police are...and it is the absolute norm for all comps featuring salary caps abroad...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

Personally, I feel it should be published in a salary cap controlled sport.

Fans deserve the right to know what impact a player will have on their future expectations. For example, if Tamou is coming here for 350 a year it is a great deal. If he is coming for 550 a year, it is an entirely different debate. Fans, ultimately, fund sport and everywhere else that is acknowledged.

I'm a teacher, I know that my salary is publicly available. Difference is it is a set wage and not in a salary competitive environment. I am a fan of the NFL and published salaries makes negotiations harder for clubs as players use previous players contracts as a measuring stick.

Could of guessed you were a teacher - real world - whats that?

lol, should have said former teacher and principal 😉 work in a different field now.

Scarecrow?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

CG is no better than Momorovski i think we keep our powder dry and try for JAC or maybe Suali but fearful we buy on potential but probably worth the risk

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Just trying to keep up with our squad
We closed the year with 29 after CMQ left shortly before the end
We said farewell to 8 including Harry so that’s 21
Momorovski rejoins in theory and Uto joins us so that’s 23
We had 5 2020 development players, Simpkin, Madden, Bradley, Cini & Hoffman. Am I correct that the first 4 get promoted into the top 30 while Hoffman is scheduled for 2022? Those 4 would likely be on the base of $115k, maybe Simpkins is a bit higher
If so that’s 27 leaving 3 spots to fill assuming no further movement
By my reckoning I’d say we have in the vicinity of $1.1-1.2 million for those three and based on who we have been discussed as being interested in that feels about right

 

[cochise]

Whats the point in blaming anyone everyday, week and year especially if they aren’t here or we can’t do anything about the current situation.

At the end of the day the players are contracted for another year or 2. Unless someone comes along and wants them it will stay that way.

The bigger issue is how do we turn around our image over the next 2yrs to become a destination club.

COE development no doubt will help, gun youngsters & results will change the perception but at the end of the day it will come down to cash & 3rd/4th party deals.

Panthers, Bulldogs, Eels, Roosters, Souths and even Manly can offer more money on/off the park than us.

We are one of the top supported club but struggling to recruit is a massive blight on our mgmt to have cashcows will to fund player deals.

Genuine question ....how do 3rd/4th party details work? Are they outside the salary cap? is there any limit to the amount that a coach/player can earn through these deals? How do we know how much each club offers in 3rd/4th party deals?

If the third party has any link to the club there is an overall club limit under the cap. If there is link between the third party and the club, it’s unlimited

I think you meant "if there is NO link .....it's unlimited"? That's a worry. Thanks for explaining.

Why is that a worry?

Because of accountability, equity and fairness. That's why it's a worry. You're ok with rich "external" benefactors being the determining factor in a player signing with a particular club?

What's the point of a salary cap if the ultimate composition of a team is determined by how much a player can receive in 3rd/4th party deals??

Because 3rd party deals are between the player and the 3rd party..Are you saying Musashi and Gatorade wouldn't provide Cameron Munster a deal to promote their products if he didn't play for the Storm..?

I'm saying that those deals need to be regulated and have a proportional limit of the total value of the player's contract that those deals attract.

I can't wait to see an NRL player promote Buxom Bella's Therapy Services of Leumeah as part of their 3rd/4th party deal!!!

They have to be registered with the NRL and approved..

And, is there some way that we, the punters, would know exactly how much a player is paid, both within the salary cap and from external sponsors?

Not just a total, but a breakdown of all sources of income that constitute their annual payments as a professional NRL player? Does that exist?

Is your wage published anywhere?

Public servants levels of pay are...teachers, police are...and it is the absolute norm for all comps featuring salary caps abroad...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

Personally, I feel it should be published in a salary cap controlled sport.

Fans deserve the right to know what impact a player will have on their future expectations. For example, if Tamou is coming here for 350 a year it is a great deal. If he is coming for 550 a year, it is an entirely different debate. Fans, ultimately, fund sport and everywhere else that is acknowledged.

I'm a teacher, I know that my salary is publicly available. Difference is it is a set wage and not in a salary competitive environment. I am a fan of the NFL and published salaries makes negotiations harder for clubs as players use previous players contracts as a measuring stick.

Could of guessed you were a teacher - real world - whats that?

lol, should have said former teacher and principal 😉 work in a different field now.

Wow, same here. What field are you working in atm?

I've started my own business supporting small to medium businesses in planning and policy. Have just been offered a job at one of the businesses i worked with running their business for them as the owners want to take a step back. Considering that offer at the moment.

 

[cochise]

Whats the point in blaming anyone everyday, week and year especially if they aren’t here or we can’t do anything about the current situation.

At the end of the day the players are contracted for another year or 2. Unless someone comes along and wants them it will stay that way.

The bigger issue is how do we turn around our image over the next 2yrs to become a destination club.

COE development no doubt will help, gun youngsters & results will change the perception but at the end of the day it will come down to cash & 3rd/4th party deals.

Panthers, Bulldogs, Eels, Roosters, Souths and even Manly can offer more money on/off the park than us.

We are one of the top supported club but struggling to recruit is a massive blight on our mgmt to have cashcows will to fund player deals.

Genuine question ....how do 3rd/4th party details work? Are they outside the salary cap? is there any limit to the amount that a coach/player can earn through these deals? How do we know how much each club offers in 3rd/4th party deals?

If the third party has any link to the club there is an overall club limit under the cap. If there is link between the third party and the club, it’s unlimited

I think you meant "if there is NO link .....it's unlimited"? That's a worry. Thanks for explaining.

Why is that a worry?

Because of accountability, equity and fairness. That's why it's a worry. You're ok with rich "external" benefactors being the determining factor in a player signing with a particular club?

What's the point of a salary cap if the ultimate composition of a team is determined by how much a player can receive in 3rd/4th party deals??

Because 3rd party deals are between the player and the 3rd party..Are you saying Musashi and Gatorade wouldn't provide Cameron Munster a deal to promote their products if he didn't play for the Storm..?

I'm saying that those deals need to be regulated and have a proportional limit of the total value of the player's contract that those deals attract.

I can't wait to see an NRL player promote Buxom Bella's Therapy Services of Leumeah as part of their 3rd/4th party deal!!!

They have to be registered with the NRL and approved..

And, is there some way that we, the punters, would know exactly how much a player is paid, both within the salary cap and from external sponsors?

Not just a total, but a breakdown of all sources of income that constitute their annual payments as a professional NRL player? Does that exist?

Is your wage published anywhere?

Public servants levels of pay are...teachers, police are...and it is the absolute norm for all comps featuring salary caps abroad...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

Personally, I feel it should be published in a salary cap controlled sport.

Fans deserve the right to know what impact a player will have on their future expectations. For example, if Tamou is coming here for 350 a year it is a great deal. If he is coming for 550 a year, it is an entirely different debate. Fans, ultimately, fund sport and everywhere else that is acknowledged.

I'm a teacher, I know that my salary is publicly available. Difference is it is a set wage and not in a salary competitive environment. I am a fan of the NFL and published salaries makes negotiations harder for clubs as players use previous players contracts as a measuring stick.

Could of guessed you were a teacher - real world - whats that?

lol, should have said former teacher and principal 😉 work in a different field now.

Scarecrow?

If you knew what I look like that comment is quite apt.

 

[cochise]

Whats the point in blaming anyone everyday, week and year especially if they aren’t here or we can’t do anything about the current situation.

At the end of the day the players are contracted for another year or 2. Unless someone comes along and wants them it will stay that way.

The bigger issue is how do we turn around our image over the next 2yrs to become a destination club.

COE development no doubt will help, gun youngsters & results will change the perception but at the end of the day it will come down to cash & 3rd/4th party deals.

Panthers, Bulldogs, Eels, Roosters, Souths and even Manly can offer more money on/off the park than us.

We are one of the top supported club but struggling to recruit is a massive blight on our mgmt to have cashcows will to fund player deals.

Genuine question ....how do 3rd/4th party details work? Are they outside the salary cap? is there any limit to the amount that a coach/player can earn through these deals? How do we know how much each club offers in 3rd/4th party deals?

If the third party has any link to the club there is an overall club limit under the cap. If there is link between the third party and the club, it’s unlimited

I think you meant "if there is NO link .....it's unlimited"? That's a worry. Thanks for explaining.

Why is that a worry?

Because of accountability, equity and fairness. That's why it's a worry. You're ok with rich "external" benefactors being the determining factor in a player signing with a particular club?

What's the point of a salary cap if the ultimate composition of a team is determined by how much a player can receive in 3rd/4th party deals??

Because 3rd party deals are between the player and the 3rd party..Are you saying Musashi and Gatorade wouldn't provide Cameron Munster a deal to promote their products if he didn't play for the Storm..?

I'm saying that those deals need to be regulated and have a proportional limit of the total value of the player's contract that those deals attract.

I can't wait to see an NRL player promote Buxom Bella's Therapy Services of Leumeah as part of their 3rd/4th party deal!!!

They have to be registered with the NRL and approved..

And, is there some way that we, the punters, would know exactly how much a player is paid, both within the salary cap and from external sponsors?

Not just a total, but a breakdown of all sources of income that constitute their annual payments as a professional NRL player? Does that exist?

Is your wage published anywhere?

Public servants levels of pay are...teachers, police are...and it is the absolute norm for all comps featuring salary caps abroad...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

Personally, I feel it should be published in a salary cap controlled sport.

Fans deserve the right to know what impact a player will have on their future expectations. For example, if Tamou is coming here for 350 a year it is a great deal. If he is coming for 550 a year, it is an entirely different debate. Fans, ultimately, fund sport and everywhere else that is acknowledged.

I'm a teacher, I know that my salary is publicly available. Difference is it is a set wage and not in a salary competitive environment. I am a fan of the NFL and published salaries makes negotiations harder for clubs as players use previous players contracts as a measuring stick.

Could of guessed you were a teacher - real world - whats that?

lol, should have said former teacher and principal 😉 work in a different field now.


I was just being a smarty - i have a lot of teacher friends - i always gee them up about having never left school and the need to get a real job.

I cop that all the time. I actually got heckled about being a chalky during my wedding speech lol

 

[JC99]

Just trying to keep up with our squad
We closed the year with 29 after CMQ left shortly before the end
We said farewell to 8 including Harry so that’s 21
Momorovski rejoins in theory and Uto joins us so that’s 23
We had 5 2020 development players, Simpkin, Madden, Bradley, Cini & Hoffman. Am I correct that the first 4 get promoted into the top 30 while Hoffman is scheduled for 2022? Those 4 would likely be on the base of $115k, maybe Simpkins is a bit higher
If so that’s 27 leaving 3 spots to fill assuming no further movement
By my reckoning I’d say we have in the vicinity of $1.1-1.2 million for those three and based on who we have been discussed as being interested in that feels about right

From what I can tell we’ve got 4 spots left including Momirovski looking at the Wests tigers site of who’s signed, but your numbers also make sense so I can’t figure out who’s right or wrong 😂

 

[twentyforty]

November 1 is not far off. There’s a lot of talent becoming available and naturally the mighty WT is being linked to almost all of them. I think the odds of us landing a very good FB are very good. Has anyone seen Stephen Crichton play FB? What are your thoughts?

 

[TonyTiger]

People on this forum really don’t let stuff go.... not everyone is Adam Blair or Rob Jennings.

I’m not even sure who would he considered a good player lol you have to be in a crap team and perform good to count as good I think ?

It’s fairly simple

JAC is an elite player who will instantly improve any team he goes too

Graham is an average player who won’t improve a team like ours one tiny bit, I would honestly prefer Momirovski to him. He is the exact player we need to steer clear of

CG is light years ahead of Momirovski. I’d take him if he was available, he’d be our best centre since the early day of Chris Lawrence.

Yeah, let’s give Souths an armchair passage to JAC by taking a slug off their hands.

 

[Tiger5150]

Whats the point in blaming anyone everyday, week and year especially if they aren’t here or we can’t do anything about the current situation.

At the end of the day the players are contracted for another year or 2. Unless someone comes along and wants them it will stay that way.

The bigger issue is how do we turn around our image over the next 2yrs to become a destination club.

COE development no doubt will help, gun youngsters & results will change the perception but at the end of the day it will come down to cash & 3rd/4th party deals.

Panthers, Bulldogs, Eels, Roosters, Souths and even Manly can offer more money on/off the park than us.

We are one of the top supported club but struggling to recruit is a massive blight on our mgmt to have cashcows will to fund player deals.

Genuine question ....how do 3rd/4th party details work? Are they outside the salary cap? is there any limit to the amount that a coach/player can earn through these deals? How do we know how much each club offers in 3rd/4th party deals?

If the third party has any link to the club there is an overall club limit under the cap. If there is link between the third party and the club, it’s unlimited

I think you meant "if there is NO link .....it's unlimited"? That's a worry. Thanks for explaining.

Why is that a worry?

Because of accountability, equity and fairness. That's why it's a worry. You're ok with rich "external" benefactors being the determining factor in a player signing with a particular club?

What's the point of a salary cap if the ultimate composition of a team is determined by how much a player can receive in 3rd/4th party deals??

Because 3rd party deals are between the player and the 3rd party..Are you saying Musashi and Gatorade wouldn't provide Cameron Munster a deal to promote their products if he didn't play for the Storm..?

I'm saying that those deals need to be regulated and have a proportional limit of the total value of the player's contract that those deals attract.

I can't wait to see an NRL player promote Buxom Bella's Therapy Services of Leumeah as part of their 3rd/4th party deal!!!

They have to be registered with the NRL and approved..

And, is there some way that we, the punters, would know exactly how much a player is paid, both within the salary cap and from external sponsors?

Not just a total, but a breakdown of all sources of income that constitute their annual payments as a professional NRL player? Does that exist?

Is your wage published anywhere?

Public servants levels of pay are...teachers, police are...and it is the absolute norm for all comps featuring salary caps abroad...

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

Personally, I feel it should be published in a salary cap controlled sport.

Fans deserve the right to know what impact a player will have on their future expectations. For example, if Tamou is coming here for 350 a year it is a great deal. If he is coming for 550 a year, it is an entirely different debate. Fans, ultimately, fund sport and everywhere else that is acknowledged.

I'm a teacher, I know that my salary is publicly available. Difference is it is a set wage and not in a salary competitive environment. I am a fan of the NFL and published salaries makes negotiations harder for clubs as players use previous players contracts as a measuring stick.

Yes, but player agents will tell them anyway. It is also clearer for players as a club saying "we can't go to 500 for you as our cap is full" can be shown to be true / false by the player looking at the cap.

***The bottom line for me, as a fan***, is that the info dictates how I will feel about signings. ***Had I of known Mbye was on massive money his last two years, there is no way I'd have wanted him.*** That is one example. ***If I knew the Huth was on a pittance, I'd like him to have been upgraded***. ***We deserve the right to know*** IMO as the cap basically dictates likely success or failure for years to come. Coaches can just leave like Cleary did...CEOs can just leave...but we, as fans, are 'stuck' with these deals for years.

Why do fans "Deserve" the right to know? With respects, who cares and who should care if you want to bump Eisenhuths pay?

Jack Gibsons line about "if you start listening to the fans, you will end up sitting with them" comes to mind.

 

[TrueTiger]

The Wests Tigers Name/Brand and Logo are controlled trademarks of the ARL Commission,
hence they cannot be re-named or altered

Ive heard before that the name and logo is protected. But is there a way the board can update the logo? It's so early 2000's

Would love to see some a bit more simple/classic and most importantly confident and know who we are.

South and Roosters have got it right.

The club do you 2 alternative logos on merch and promos which look good:
- ones the existing logo with the claws removed and placed in a shield
- the other is a WT in a shield

Sorry i know logos shouldnt be in this thread, but presentation of the club is important in attracting players
Plus it's fairly quiet on the signings....


Couldn’t agree more ?
Bulldogs,eels,panthers and Sharks all ditched their 2000’s logo


They were all around prior to 2000. Whats wrong with the logo we have. Why change it. What would you change it to. And finally how does that attract players to the club.

Where there's a choice, players would rather choose to play at a club that has pride and is cool.

There's been plenty of discussion of the lack of identity WT has both in media and on the forum.

Obviously there's plenty of work that needs to be done to address that, but the most visible form of a clubs identity is the logo.

Early in Crowes tenure at Souths they updated the logo to just the rabbit by itself. It shows the history, but is really cool. The black rabbit is now worn for home games to celebrate the indeginous connection of the club.

Just in the last 12 month's Latrell and Johnson have signed for less than we offered. ADC might do the same. Why? Because the club is standing for something more than just a flashy logo and flashy cash.

I dont think our logo has much to do with player purchase or their interest in coming to our club,we have a very good brand and logo now as it is....
When we change the culture of the club and it has to change right through the club from the admin to the players,start winning on a regular basis,making the finals and keep developing top young juniors,then players and their management will target the WTs as a genuine premiership threat....Thats when we will have much more interest from the marquee and top line players on a year to year proposition,the COE will also help as would a solution to a home ground...

I think we as a club are on the right path atm to changing a lot of whats needed to be the club we have always sought to be...

 

[Russell]

People on this forum really don’t let stuff go.... not everyone is Adam Blair or Rob Jennings.

I’m not even sure who would he considered a good player lol you have to be in a crap team and perform good to count as good I think ?

It’s fairly simple

JAC is an elite player who will instantly improve any team he goes too

Graham is an average player who won’t improve a team like ours one tiny bit, I would honestly prefer Momirovski to him. He is the exact player we need to steer clear of

Compare his stats this year with Jarrod Croker, Josh Morris and Joey Manu, as good or better. Those are all classy centres. Souths backline is singing and he is in it. Talau had a few average games and one or two good games.

You said it, "Souffs backline is singing" - Why wouldn't CG be playing well.

Our backline at present can't hold a tune, let alone sing - Why would Talau be able to play good games every week.

Put CG in our backline and he would be lucky to be as good Talau.

Plodder, NMN