Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436180) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436178) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436175) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435906) said:
I joke about Woods but at the end of the day he easily makes our team. Our forward back is wildly overrated on here.

Agreed. He still averages more meters per game than all of our forwards bar Twal.

So did Tamou before he got here. In saying that, I do think for the right price he could be useful.

If it's a choice between Woods and re-signing someone like Amone, I'd pick Woods. We need players who can play big minutes and not fall apart.

I see nothing in Amone.

Nor do I. With the exception of AD the ex South’s signings (Musgrove, Jennings) have been horrible
 
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett


Bennett always causes devestation behind him when he leaves a club.He would be the last bloke i would want at WT.

He's leaving Souths this year.
Do you see any "devastation " there?
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436218) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett


Bennett always causes devestation behind him when he leaves a club.He would be the last bloke i would want at WT.

He's leaving Souths this year.
Do you see any "devastation " there?


You will next year,just as you can see after he left Saints Newcastle and the Donkeys.Old Zombie is only interested in himself.Caveat Emptor
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436180) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436178) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436175) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435906) said:
I joke about Woods but at the end of the day he easily makes our team. Our forward back is wildly overrated on here.

Agreed. He still averages more meters per game than all of our forwards bar Twal.

So did Tamou before he got here. In saying that, I do think for the right price he could be useful.

If it's a choice between Woods and re-signing someone like Amone, I'd pick Woods. We need players who can play big minutes and not fall apart.

I see nothing in Amone.

He had no off season, coming off acl, could br better with a full off season. He has the right body type but needs to up his game in training and fitness.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436180) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436178) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436175) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435906) said:
I joke about Woods but at the end of the day he easily makes our team. Our forward back is wildly overrated on here.

Agreed. He still averages more meters per game than all of our forwards bar Twal.

So did Tamou before he got here. In saying that, I do think for the right price he could be useful.

If it's a choice between Woods and re-signing someone like Amone, I'd pick Woods. We need players who can play big minutes and not fall apart.

I see nothing in Amone.

He's stuck between being too good for reserves and not good enough for NRL.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436214) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436180) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436178) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436175) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435906) said:
I joke about Woods but at the end of the day he easily makes our team. Our forward back is wildly overrated on here.

Agreed. He still averages more meters per game than all of our forwards bar Twal.

So did Tamou before he got here. In saying that, I do think for the right price he could be useful.

If it's a choice between Woods and re-signing someone like Amone, I'd pick Woods. We need players who can play big minutes and not fall apart.

I see nothing in Amone.

Nor do I. With the exception of AD the ex South’s signings (Musgrove, Jennings) have been horrible



@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436214) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436180) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436178) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436175) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435906) said:
I joke about Woods but at the end of the day he easily makes our team. Our forward back is wildly overrated on here.

Agreed. He still averages more meters per game than all of our forwards bar Twal.

So did Tamou before he got here. In saying that, I do think for the right price he could be useful.

If it's a choice between Woods and re-signing someone like Amone, I'd pick Woods. We need players who can play big minutes and not fall apart.

I see nothing in Amone.

Nor do I. With the exception of AD the ex South’s signings (Musgrove, Jennings) have been horrible



@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436214) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436180) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436178) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436175) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435906) said:
I joke about Woods but at the end of the day he easily makes our team. Our forward back is wildly overrated on here.

Agreed. He still averages more meters per game than all of our forwards bar Twal.

So did Tamou before he got here. In saying that, I do think for the right price he could be useful.

If it's a choice between Woods and re-signing someone like Amone, I'd pick Woods. We need players who can play big minutes and not fall apart.

I see nothing in Amone.

Nor do I. With the exception of AD the ex South’s
signings (Musgrove, Jennings) have been horrible

Musgrove has been such a huge letdown since he got injured...really dissapointing
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435951) said:
There's a lot of heavy duty grudge holding against Woods.
I reserve my grudge holding for those who broke contracts and threw games.

There isn't a "Grudge" cap you know - you can hate on as many as you like.
 
@69-05-41 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435957) said:
We should trade Stefano to bring Sharon home. We deserve a Tamou/Sharon front row. If we are really lucky we might even get Moses and Teddy back in about ten years time to help Brooks' development to one day become a real halfback. Think of the hat sales. This club is a joke.

Don't want to hide behind a down vote - I've read some rubbish on here, let me just say in an Olympic Year, you win the gold medal.
 
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett


Bennett always causes devestation behind him when he leaves a club.He would be the last bloke i would want at WT.

And our coach has caused devastation whilst at his last 2 clubs, souths sacked him and bounced straight back, over to you Wests Tigers to do the same.
 
@curaeus said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436038) said:
Given our lack of appeal to the other players we tried to sign, Woods, at the right price, might be the closest thing to a "name" signing we can get right now from what's available. Our pack lacks experience and Woods may be able to help some of our young guns like Stefano, Blore and Seyfarth,

You wouldn't let him anywhere near our three.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436222) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436180) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436178) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436175) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435906) said:
I joke about Woods but at the end of the day he easily makes our team. Our forward back is wildly overrated on here.

Agreed. He still averages more meters per game than all of our forwards bar Twal.

So did Tamou before he got here. In saying that, I do think for the right price he could be useful.

If it's a choice between Woods and re-signing someone like Amone, I'd pick Woods. We need players who can play big minutes and not fall apart.

I see nothing in Amone.

He's stuck between being too good for reserves and not good enough for NRL.

if Woods can take his spot on similar money or a little more then Woods is a good signing
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436173) said:
@krammy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436164) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436120) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436110) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

Henry had a massive fall out with the players at Titans and also struggled to get their attack going. He'd be a good assistant for sure, not sure he would handle head coach

Was all due to Hayne from memory? He had them travelling pretty well and then they signed Hayne (who he didn’t want) and it caused issues. Henry is a very good coach when rebuilding.

I remember that well. One huge negative ego caused a team that had been travelling OK at the time to spiral. A stint in Her Majesty's may be reducing Hayne's opinion of himself.

Henry is a very underrated coach IMO, especially with clubs undergoing a rebuild. He got NQ into a position where they won a GF a couple of years after he left, and had the Titans heading in the right direction until the Hayne debacle which wasn’t his fault. Then Brennan made every mistake imaginable. I think the year before they played finals in a squad that wasn’t great.

I think Madge is quite similar to be honest.
Henry has more experience in rebuilds than Madge though I’d give him that.
What I would say is the job Madge walked into at Souths was a unity and enchancing role. Souths jnrs have always had a strong depth of talent. Up until Madge started at souths 2/3s of that team would of been local junior (I’m assuming, happy to be corrected), but this is my take on where Souths were and what they had at their disposal.
So the talent was available already within the greater squad. Madge spoke at length prior to starting up with us about how he put a lot of focus into ensuring that Souths not only becoming a contender in the years he was coach but also have a strong pathways in place to ensure continued success.
In the ‘struggling’ years at Souths they recruited Walker, developed Johnson, Murray and Campbell-Graham
Here at the Tigers, none of that was set up.
Someone mentioned Taylor last tried to establish that and I’m not sure why that wasn’t followed through with the club when Cleary arrived but only Mikalee ‘our last Keebra survivor’ remained as a talented junior we would hope to keep with Seyfarth a couple of years behind.
We lost our best ones in Paseka, Papenhuyzen, Tatola and for whatever reason Suli never prospered here. Players like Cassell Stone, Connelly Leiumu weren’t rated here and we focused on the wrong players in JJ Felise and Esan Marsters.
The place was a mess. Maybe the club should of been honest in the first place and admitted to a rebuild being required and grabbed either Brown or Henry prior to Madge.

Still, I wouldn’t be at all opposed to poaching Henry as our Defensive coach.
Last time we had really sound defence was when the late Steve Folkes was appointed to that position.
 
What about Ivan?! Goes to show you how much he knows, signed Mbye for $1mil p.a. almost. Ended up being the worst value signing in NRL history. Thats just one example. He is lucky Nathan is such a good player.
I rate Madge above Bennett now and Ivan. Results are not all on him. Some of our guys are fringe first graders. Bennett is past his prime. Why are the Bunnies letting him go if he is so good? He got offered our head coaching job before Madge and declined. Why would you want a guy coaching your team that doesnt really want to be there just wants a coaching job....?!

You can not fault Madge's commitment to our club. Puts him well above the rest! Imo
 
@nrlsurvivor said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436078) said:
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436057) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435973) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435361) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435359) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1435354) said:
when

I like the sound of that.

Tell me more about this Brooks Broncos talk?

I don't know if that's true...

I read they're shopping Croft to England.

Croft and Brooks are very similar players in my opinion.

Think they like Staggs to partner Reynolds in the halves. Personally not a fan of this....

Brooks is a far better player than Croft Brooks can tackle

Tired of all the people claiming Brooks is so wonderful in defence.
The odd good tackle doesn’t make him great.
The last few weeks especially he’s missed some important tackles.
For the record Croft has better tackle efficiency stats as do noted poor defensive halves like Cherry-Evans and Reynolds.
Even our much maligned Lucy has a better tackle efficiency.

I’m sorry but for the record Brooks’ tackle efficiency is significantly higher than Croft. According to official NRL app, Brooks tackle efficiency is 82.8%, well above Brody Croft at 73.1. Reynolds and DCE do have better stats at 85% and 88% respectively.

Souths are more successful at hiding Reynolds than we are with Brooks. Besides Brooks is also doing tackles that were not his.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett

I would have preferred Bellamy but I think if I had a choice, I would take Bennett over Madge
 
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett


Bennett always causes devestation behind him when he leaves a club.He would be the last bloke i would want at WT.

We have already had ten years of devastation
 
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436254) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett

I would have preferred Bellamy but I think if I had a choice, I would take Bennett over Madge

Bennett seems to really enjoy a club imploding after he leaves. He would attract players, but he would be chasing short term glory and I really don't think he would care about the long term future of the club.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436218) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett


Bennett always causes devestation behind him when he leaves a club.He would be the last bloke i would want at WT.

He's leaving Souths this year.
Do you see any "devastation " there?

think this time around is different because he's leaving Demetriou there and he has enough respect for him not to bomb the joint. Brisbane, St George and Newcastle obviously speaks to his track record, but Souths have put a proper succession plan in place this time around. wouldn't have him at WT though, he'd completely ruin the place in order to try and win one more.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436218) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436213) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436147) said:
@pj said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436113) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1436107) said:
Niel Henry, coaches a great style that has become more relevant in todays game than ever before, NRL experience (Raiders, Cowboys & Titans) assistant coach to the Maroons since 2008, current coach of the Junior Roos, Nrl coaching consultant, not a bad bloody resume.
I wanted him to coach us ahead of Madge, I thought I was right then, now I'm 110% he should have been our coach. The bloke just doesn't talk about culture and accountability, he is regarded as the best tactical mind in the NRL, hasn't won a premiership but is a two time NRL coach of the year and most importantly appears to be a damn good human.

I'm all in favour of a different direction with coaching but I think I would only replace Madge with either Bellamy or Bennett. Bellamy's resigned so either Bennett or we let Madge see out his current contract. Nothing changes then we get Sheens to have a look around and see what's available. Toovey would be similar to Madge, Flanagan not that appealing. Always like Elliot and he knows his footy but too long away from coaching now and prob wouldn't want the challenge.
It would have to be an up and comer like maybe Ciraldo? Idk who else is out there. English coach?

I'm not really interested in Bennett


Bennett always causes devestation behind him when he leaves a club.He would be the last bloke i would want at WT.

He's leaving Souths this year.
Do you see any "devastation " there?

Souths are putting a lot of stock in their young 7 coming through (Can't think of his name), if they have Walker and Milford/Benji in the halves next year they could have some problems, can see South's going backwards next year pretty easily.
 
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