Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452541) said:
@tigers97 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452540) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452533) said:
@tigers97 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452527) said:
I think the time has come to boot brooks to whoever wants him thats without question I think what we need to do is sign tom amone to a 2 year deal and resign cini to a 2 year but keep our 1 million for the next season stay out of the market for this year we've missed everyone we've had a shot at build from within bring up some young boys drop dead weight like packer , walters , roberts and BJ then look at bringing in some talent at the end of 2022 like mo fotuakia , Faitala-Mariner even tom starling stock our fowards see if we can medically retire james tamou and give him a role as our forwards coach

All great ideas and seem to be happening.

The dead weight boys like you mentioned should all be gone.

Amone looks quite decent, would like to see more of him.

The last 20 minutes of that game he was running off the back fence running hard and fast and really lifted the boys we need him to stay

We also need a dedicated halves coach call up Scotty Prince , Benji even Tim Moltzen bring some club legends in to teach these boys what the club is

We need to find our identity as a club

We've got Brett Kimmorley involved.
He's quite the coach.

>He is only the pathways coach isn't he ?? If he wants to do the halves coaching that would be great we need a specialist halves coach like a joey with parra so those coaches can report back to madge with what they're seeing how the game should play out
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452536) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452532) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452519) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452502) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452483) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452439) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452374) said:
if we re-sign Joey L we are hopeless as a club
JTJ on a minimal contract maybe

Neither will be with us next year.

Good!

With no disrespect, what a shame we waste time with minimal/fringe contract players who are just a distraction, chew up a spot and will never be what they were or ever make it.

I’m hoping we give some of our real younger stars such as Ogden a go next year. With Nofo, tell him to go back to KOE and fix whatever it is he needs to do. Only one way to learn.

Just a shame that Covid has stopped our JF progress. Hopefully, we will see some of them next year and they haven’t been cut although I suspect everyone is still in limbo.

Couldn't have said it better myself man.
Thank you.

I'd be shopping Nofo.
I believe he, among a couple of others are an ingrained problem we need to rid ourselves of.

I'd give Liam Scolari a run ahead of Nofo - there's a kid who isn't afraid of hard work and carts it up straight and hard.

He's a backs coach?
He could be teaching these lads a thing or two.

https://www.playbook.coach/coaches/1391

Specialises in tackling. Said no wests tigers player ever.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452551) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452536) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452532) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452519) said:
@thaiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452502) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452483) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452439) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452374) said:
if we re-sign Joey L we are hopeless as a club
JTJ on a minimal contract maybe

Neither will be with us next year.

Good!

With no disrespect, what a shame we waste time with minimal/fringe contract players who are just a distraction, chew up a spot and will never be what they were or ever make it.

I’m hoping we give some of our real younger stars such as Ogden a go next year. With Nofo, tell him to go back to KOE and fix whatever it is he needs to do. Only one way to learn.

Just a shame that Covid has stopped our JF progress. Hopefully, we will see some of them next year and they haven’t been cut although I suspect everyone is still in limbo.

Couldn't have said it better myself man.
Thank you.

I'd be shopping Nofo.
I believe he, among a couple of others are an ingrained problem we need to rid ourselves of.

I'd give Liam Scolari a run ahead of Nofo - there's a kid who isn't afraid of hard work and carts it up straight and hard.

He's a backs coach?
He could be teaching these lads a thing or two.

https://www.playbook.coach/coaches/1391

Specialises in tackling. Said no wests tigers player ever.

He's a sprinter too.
Has speed...

Guy needs a go.
Good call, @willow
 
lol Nofo isn’t going to get dropped. Face the music. If he didn’t get dropped after that first game this season against the warriors, he never will.
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452561) said:
lol Nofo isn’t going to get dropped. Face the music. If he didn’t get dropped after that first game this season against the warriors, he never will.

Mind boggling hey.

Seems like Talau is in the same boat.
Coach adores him.
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452562) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452561) said:
lol Nofo isn’t going to get dropped. Face the music. If he didn’t get dropped after that first game this season against the warriors, he never will.

Mind boggling hey.

Seems like Talau is in the same boat.
Coach adores him.

Get off his case bra. Definitely been one of our best for the last few weeks. Not his fault he’s been switched between centre and wing all season. There’s a quality first grade centre in there I’m sure of it.
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452564) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452562) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452561) said:
lol Nofo isn’t going to get dropped. Face the music. If he didn’t get dropped after that first game this season against the warriors, he never will.

Mind boggling hey.

Seems like Talau is in the same boat.
Coach adores him.

Get off his case bra. Definitely been one of our best for the last few weeks. Not his fault he’s been switched between centre and wing all season. There’s a quality first grade centre in there I’m sure of it.

I've came to grips with the fact he's not going any where any time soon, just like Nofo.

Talau made the coaches top 7 to build around.
I don't get it but that's obviously the plan.

No point complaining hey. ?
 
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452567) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452564) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452562) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452561) said:
lol Nofo isn’t going to get dropped. Face the music. If he didn’t get dropped after that first game this season against the warriors, he never will.

Mind boggling hey.

Seems like Talau is in the same boat.
Coach adores him.

Get off his case bra. Definitely been one of our best for the last few weeks. Not his fault he’s been switched between centre and wing all season. There’s a quality first grade centre in there I’m sure of it.

I've came to grips with the fact he's not going any where any time soon, just like Nofo.

Talau made the coaches top 7 to build around.
I don't get it but that's obviously the plan.

No point complaining hey. ?

If I I was in any point of power at this stage, I’d drop Nof before I do Tommy.
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452571) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452567) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452564) said:
@demps said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452562) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452561) said:
lol Nofo isn’t going to get dropped. Face the music. If he didn’t get dropped after that first game this season against the warriors, he never will.

Mind boggling hey.

Seems like Talau is in the same boat.
Coach adores him.

Get off his case bra. Definitely been one of our best for the last few weeks. Not his fault he’s been switched between centre and wing all season. There’s a quality first grade centre in there I’m sure of it.

I've came to grips with the fact he's not going any where any time soon, just like Nofo.

Talau made the coaches top 7 to build around.
I don't get it but that's obviously the plan.

No point complaining hey. ?

If I I was in any point of power at this stage, I’d drop Nof before I do Tommy.

They don't play well together.

Nofo acts like its all Talaus fault.
Not good for the young kids development.
 
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452578) said:
If we are going to get rid of bj and roberts we should offer curtis Scott a contract

100%

Scott and .... maybe, just maybe... Lomax.
And that's the best backline we've had in a very long time.
 
Oh well i reckon we need at least 1 New specialist fast winger with size and with heart!!! And 2 centres!!!! Thats if we want a backline thats good enough for finals football!
 
And until then, finals football is just hope!!!! Plus i would add a lock and backrower, both who intimidate the opposition. Not like what we have!
 
@tigers97 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452566) said:
Tommy taulau has been a gun the past few weeks hes going to be a star we need to let him grow hes only young still

He has run straight and hard.
 
@earl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452052) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1452047) said:
I have no idea , but no one in the last 2 years that’s come on the market not named Lattrell Mitchell , would have moved the needle at all, and most would have put us back a few years .

I agree with this.. He is the player that we needed. He is a top 5 player in the comp who has an impact.

The only solution to this problem to me is continuing playing moneyball with a focus on talented players. That means junior or development players like Stef, Blore and Laurie.

If we can sign players like Latrell that is awesome but we seem to struggle.

I'd be more inclined to go hard at guys like Burton.

I disagree with the 'moneyball' approach, because it hasn't worked. It won't work either.

Think about it. All the teams have a spreadsheet and some "formula" that produces one player with better stats then the rest. They go out and hire those players that they feel can get more Value out of then dollars paid.
When we get this right it means... A better then average player instead of an average. Like Matterson or Paul Momo.

SOO literally gathers the top 17 players in your state and thrashes them at another state. Without a plan the best players win. With a plan, the best plan wins.

We can't think, on a yearly basis we are going to get 'better then 16 teams' players. We just are not, Roosters, Souths, Broncos or the usual will poach them if they are very good.

We need a 3 year plan, like Manly had for 2008. Snipe 2-3 awesome players. Front load them heavily, Year 1 sucks but we have a Kalyn Ponga style player in our midst. Year 2 we look at our gaps and hire more for a 2 year contract (or longer). Year 3 we have cash to spare because of year 1!

Instead of trying to beat averages each year, we concentrate 3 years into 1. We also do a Manly and do Fortress Tigers. Fostering a player group that knows each other and wants to play for each other... See how Penrith have done...

Moneyball won't work. We need a real plan.
 
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