Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[GNR4LIFE]

If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

lol. What a load of garbage.

Also, you don't have to read it. if you truly do not accept reading the same tantrum you can walk away. Complaining about reading it is actually called whinging.

Love that logic! it works anywhere!

It’s not garbage. What are you doing differently to those who supposedly do accept mediocrity? You’re still here every week like they are.

 

[happy_tiger]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

 

[Newtown]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?


But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground

Speak for yourself. I don't want 1 home ground if it means no games at Leichhardt.

As for the hooker role, I would definitely prefer to see an established hooker there but I imagine it's Maguire who makes the call of whether we can cover with what we have. The last thing I want is a CEO choosing the team for the coach.

If the majority agreed on Leichhardt ...then make it Leichhardt ...just choose one bloody home ground

But that won't happen because the only way we can break even is from using 5 different home grounds for 12 games

And that's the other problem , winning football games is taking a back seat to breaking even

When I get in a pissing contest about my side , I don't want my argument that the WT's are good because we are financially viable to be my sole (or soul ) argument

Last time I checked they don't pick the Top 8 based on your bank account

And it seems that it doesn't excite players we are trying to recruit either

NRL is now definitely much more a business than a sport.

 

[Telltails]

If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

I totally agree.

I see a lot of these comments about "accepting mediocrity", coming to mean that if you defend/excuse some aspect of the club function, or fail to adequately criticise, or be overly optimistic, you are "accepting" bad results.

Nobody on here likes when the Tigers lose, be it a single game or failure to make the finals. People who don't care about the results generally don't post on footy forums and probably have a take/leave casual relationship with the NRL.

Nobody here accepts that it's fine to lose. It isn't.

But also, as a fan, what choice do you have? Only 1 team wins every year and only half make the finals. Souths fans aren't happy at getting knocked out of the finals every year, not really any less than Tigers fans being upset about not even being in the finals.

As soon as Tigers start making the finals regularly, expectations will change, and then folks will be unhappy about failing to convert finals opportunities. Ask yourself - are you more angry/upset about the 2012 season, or 2011?

There is literally nothing to be gained anymore by rehashing Cleary or Taylor or Farahgate, things in the past that you can't change, mostly associated with people who aren't at the club any more. You might as well start rehashing the 1989 Grand Final again.

In the past 66 years, since 1953, Magpies and Balmain combined have won TWO premierships (and a further 9-times runners up). There wouldn't be a lot of folks on here who remember the war years when Balmain and Magpies won 4 straight, and it's been slim pickings ever since. I've said it before - how a Wests Tigers fan can be truly upset about failing to make the finals and win comps, I don't know. It's never been a thing for either side of the JV.

Lastly - there's basically nothing you can do about the CEO or players or coach, which is another thing you need to accept. Fan opinion has very little impact on club personnel decisions, and 99.99% of people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. So you can rail against Pascoe or the "faceless board" all you like, but it serves no purpose other than shouting into the wind.

Where do I start

Well bottom to top seems an idea , the club's set up to protect itself and it's heirachy for starters Being a member means nothing really you don't have a say in its leadership Wonder how much more passion our board would have for results if they had members ready to sack them if they failed

You mention not rehashing the past ...that would be fine if we didn't repeat the mistakes we have made repeatedly

And our past on field ...your kidding right ....so we can't comment on our past performances

So the club can make any promise it likes and not deliver and that's ok with you .....I wish I worked for you

And you bring up how only one team wins , 8 miss out making finals , well we have the worst record since our inception and are the only side not to play finals since 2011

Argue it all you like , you accept mediocrity and I'll go as far as saying you eat sleep and bath in mediocrity as far as the WT's go

This isn't a personal thing , but it's funny but the two people thought of when I made the comments last night are the two most vocal against this morning

Geez Happy I remember the days when it was all Robbie Farah's fault. At least he was easier to pin point than "the club."

Well I'll admit we actually got it right short term bringing he and Benji back , but even that did not bring us to the promised land

Just having some fun Happy. Can see and understand your frustration - just have a different way of looking at it for my own mental health - and that requires being a little more objective about our situation.
Life would be much easier as a Roosters supporter - but nah.

I know you were TT , but I was adversely against bringing them both back

I do get where you are coming from. I nearly lost my mind on here when we let Suli go.
Went off like a crazy, and then he got cut not long after from the Bulldogs. It was actually the one good decision I thought JT made in signing him. Realised then that decisions are made for reasons I don't know or understand and have no control over. Still pains seeing his development at Manly - and is on the list of what could have beens

 

[happy_tiger]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?


But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground

Speak for yourself. I don't want 1 home ground if it means no games at Leichhardt.

As for the hooker role, I would definitely prefer to see an established hooker there but I imagine it's Maguire who makes the call of whether we can cover with what we have. The last thing I want is a CEO choosing the team for the coach.

If the majority agreed on Leichhardt ...then make it Leichhardt ...just choose one bloody home ground

But that won't happen because the only way we can break even is from using 5 different home grounds for 12 games

And that's the other problem , winning football games is taking a back seat to breaking even

When I get in a pissing contest about my side , I don't want my argument that the WT's are good because we are financially viable to be my sole (or soul ) argument

Last time I checked they don't pick the Top 8 based on your bank account

And it seems that it doesn't excite players we are trying to recruit either

NRL is now definitely much more a business than a sport.

Some clubs amazingly manage to do both , we should give it a red hot dig for a change

 

[krayola]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

Fair call. You don't think the hard decisions are being made by Madge though?

Certainly the home ground issue needs fixing in the next 5 years.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It is entertainment. We need to return to our roots of attack. Very rarely does a forward pass get called prior to a try.

 

[gallagher]

If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

lol. What a load of garbage.

Also, you don't have to read it. if you truly do not accept reading the same tantrum you can walk away. Complaining about reading it is actually called whinging.

Love that logic! it works anywhere!


It’s not garbage. What are you doing differently to those who supposedly do accept mediocrity? You’re still here every week like they are.

I've stopped donating my money via membership.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

 

[gallagher]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

That doesnt help does it. No voting rights.

 

[happy_tiger]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

Totally understand ..and it is/was one of our biggest mistakes

 

[tigerbalm]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?


Yea it did ! The team was one of only 3 clubs to turn a profit last year !
But the club is in disarray right ?
Ugh! Every 3rd day you guys trudge this crap out . Now in 4 different threads .
I know you can’t see me , but I don’t care . You guys suck . There’s litterally a thread for this rubbish

If West's were a publicly listed company, turning a profit would be awesome. West's are a footy team that cant win games. Bet hey, at least they're in the black! they can spend that money on a huge signing...oh wait.

People like you are are the reason that mediocrity is accepted around this club and is now part of their DNA.

I'd suggest you stop the personal attacks before it ends in your demise on here.

Are you kidding? what personal attack? suggesting that someone who defends lackluster performances is accepting mediocrity is now a personal insult? Get a grip. Its a footy forum Willow.

Ends in your demise lol. Who even says that?? I'm embarrassed even reading that.

 

[tigerballs]

It is entertainment. We need to return to our roots of attack. Very rarely does a forward pass get called prior to a try.

Of course winning is important but I'm most happy when the Tigers just play "Tigers football" a la 2005.....throw the ball around, play risky, try to score as many points per minute as possible. Have a go. I hate the structured, decoy running angle this hole running that crap that has ruined the NRL. Sign some players with flair, or at least let the players with flair use it.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

That doesnt help does it. No voting rights.

So you don't have voting rights if you're a member of Ashfield? Pretty sure you get to elect their board.

 

[twentyforty]

Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums

What no good oil on the most important issue concerning the Bunnies? Is JA secured for 2020.?

 

[Tiger5150]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

Totally understand ..and it is/was one of our biggest mistakes

It wasnt and isnt a mistake. That model (unfortunately) is dead. The game now is a business and is an almost unique business in that it requires big money but almost entirely relies on begging on donations from business (how much "value" does a sponsor really recieve other than some marketing exposure).

The Tigers and all clubs rely on big business pouring in big money which is not going to happen if the stability of the board is unstable and at the will of members each year. Same goes for Wests Ashfield.

I was a voting member of BDRLDFC and I loved it but unfortunately those days are gone.

 

[happy_tiger]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

Totally understand ..and it is/was one of our biggest mistakes


It wasnt and isnt a mistake. That model (unfortunately) is dead. The game now is a business and is an almost unique business in that it requires big money but almost entirely relies on begging on donations from business (how much "value" does a sponsor really recieve other than some marketing exposure).

The Tigers and all clubs rely on big business pouring in big money which is not going to happen if the stability of the board is unstable and at the will of members each year. Same goes for Wests Ashfield.

I was a voting member of BDRLDFC and I loved it but unfortunately those days are gone.

Parra and the Dogs would argue with you , they voted the board out at the Dogs in 2018

 

[gallagher]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

That doesnt help does it. No voting rights.

So you don't have voting rights if you're not a member of Ashfield? Pretty sure you get to elect their board.

Well you get to vote for the leagues club board, who then appoint the wests tigers board. Its not the same as being a football club member with direct voting rights.

 

[happy_tiger]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.

We need to start again from scratch ..make the tough decisions we should have made from Day 1

***Having a board that is accountable to the members is a must for starters***

I'd even be prepared to make some really radical decisions to roll the entire roster over

Set 2022 as the season for example , have no current players on the roster (bar the 3-4 you would keep ) signed past then and roll the whole roster over and start again if needs be

People may complain about losing our history , this clubs 8 year history isn't worth keeping or remembering

You realise how the club is structured, right?

Totally understand ..and it is/was one of our biggest mistakes


It wasnt and isnt a mistake. That model (unfortunately) is dead. The game now is a business and is an almost unique business in that it requires big money but almost entirely relies on begging on donations from business (how much "value" does a sponsor really recieve other than some marketing exposure).

The Tigers and all clubs rely on big business pouring in big money which is not going to happen if the stability of the board is unstable and at the will of members each year. Same goes for Wests Ashfield.

I was a voting member of BDRLDFC and I loved it but unfortunately those days are gone.

You get value from your sponsorship when you get seen playing footy in late September / early October

 

[TrueTiger]


Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?


But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground

Speak for yourself. I don't want 1 home ground if it means no games at Leichhardt.

As for the hooker role, I would definitely prefer to see an established hooker there but I imagine it's Maguire who makes the call of whether we can cover with what we have. The last thing I want is a CEO choosing the team for the coach.

If the majority agreed on Leichhardt ...then make it Leichhardt ...just choose one bloody home ground

But that won't happen because the only way we can break even is from using 5 different home grounds for 12 games

And that's the other problem , winning football games is taking a back seat to breaking even

When I get in a pissing contest about my side , I don't want my argument that the WT's are good because we are financially viable to be my sole (or soul ) argument

Last time I checked they don't pick the Top 8 based on your bank account

And it seems that it doesn't excite players we are trying to recruit either

NRL is now definitely much more a business than a sport.

Some clubs amazingly manage to do both , we should give it a red hot dig for a change

I was of the understanding that our financial position is in a much better state this year as far as the business goes...
I also understand that Madge and co are trying to put together a very good squad that will be able to make the 8 this year,sounds good so far to me,I may have a different perspective than you,we do seem to be heading in a forward direction rather than backwards like previous years,just my opinion though,Im no expert but can see from the outside looking in without panic surrounding me..