SMH - Divisions derailing next step for Wests Tigers

[GNR4LIFE]

Gnr that was what sheens had them doing early on when he came to the club so that the playets get the feel of the ground. I take it this is not the case anymore?

I don't think so

 

[Benjirific]

Just trying to get my head around this issue (which I'm finding a bit confusing). Two questions I have:
1\. Is there an issue about State Cup teams? Balmain are teamed with Ryde Eastwood, which is a large club in its own right. Would there be a stand alone Ryde Eastwood team if Balmain dropped out?
2\. Do the Wets Tigers do much training at either Campbelltown or Leichhardt?

Answering the second question first, the FG and Toyota Cup squads only train at Leichhardt and Campbelltown for their captain's run the day before a game at those venues. I do believe that they train at Campbelltown before travelling to Canberra as well.

With the State Cup, they could possibly have Ryde-Eastwood run the WT State Cup team, which would further cut costs, not let their monetary input to go to waste and allow their contribution to continue with the club. Thoughts? (I know most people will say that it's just an extension of Balmain, but it's just an idea.)

 

[tigergirlz]

I worry a bit about the lack of training at Campbo and Leichhardt as it would surely help our kickers (goal and place) esp to have plenty of practice where they play.
I didn't reall mean ryde eastwood running the entire WT state cup side, but have a Wests Tigers team running as Magpies and Ryde Eastwood run their own team. Who knows??

 

[Spartan117]

Gnr that was what sheens had them doing early on when he came to the club so that the playets get the feel of the ground. I take it this is not the case anymore?

I don't think so

I recall that Sheens stopped this very thing and consolidated all to a New home ground in Concord. He even painted the Gym himself.

Masterstroke IMO

When we will start really focusing on the fact this club is more that its great history and now a great club in its own right.

The next generations (ie my 4 kids) dont know about balmain and dont care about wests. its all about Benji, Robbie, Gall and Lote and the colours.

 

[monkey]

Why don't we play out at concord oval we train there I know parking would be a pain , or 6 each and alternate the bumble bee strip or just have one jumper with the three colors
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[tigerbenji]

They are not goining to please every one where they play or train, all i know is these days i support Wests Tigers & i used to be a Magpies supporter, I

 

[tigerbenji]

They are not goining to please every one where they play or train, all i know is these days i support Wests Tigers & i used to be a Magpies supporter,Concord oval needs lot of work done on it. Also i can see leichhardt oval goining down the drain & units beini ng built there so that leaves Campbelltown & one of the major grounds as the government wont spend money on Leichhardt or Concord.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Gnr that was what sheens had them doing early on when he came to the club so that the playets get the feel of the ground. I take it this is not the case anymore?

I don't think so

I recall that Sheens stopped this very thing and consolidated all to a New home ground in Concord. He even painted the Gym himself.

Masterstroke IMO

When we will start really focusing on the fact this club is more that its great history and now a great club in its own right.

The next generations (ie my 4 kids) dont know about balmain and dont care about wests. its all about Benji, Robbie, Gall and Lote and the colours.

I realy don't understand what the next generation, and what they don't know or care about has to do with anything in this instance. Wanting more effort put into both area's isn't a Wests and Balmain thing, its a WT's thing, because they are WT's 2 main heartlands. I'm sure other teams would find it mind boggling that there are fans who don't give a rats about the fact they have such a large junior area, and could care less if they walked away from it. Other teams see the value in it, which has been showcased by the Roosters and Bulldogs trying to move in on the area at times in the past, so why can't we? And no, thats not living in the past and refusing to look to the future, its just the fact that it is WT haertland. That goes for Leichardt too. Looking to the future is merging all 3 grades. Securing our junior area's isn't living in the past

 

[black_and_white_tige]

Personally just on the grounds while I absolutely love and adore the place Leichhardt Oval in its current form just isn't cutting the mustard.

I think we could easily have the six games at Campbelltown which is almost up to standard (something needs to be down about the concourse area/toilets under the main stand).

So really I think its Leichhardt that is a bit of a problem.

I think it needs (at least)…

Plastic seating right around the terrace areas.
New PA system - desperately!!
New scoreboard (not demolishing the old one).
A rethink of the extremely congested (and I think unsafe) concourse area in front of the Latchem Robinson stand.
Better toilet facilities on the hill side.
Stairs, railings and barriers on the hill to improve safety.
More corporate areas (which would be the biggest and most expensive issue).

And somewhere to park your car wouldn't hurt. !

You need a special secret parking spot like I have :slight_smile:

Seriously though isn't the light rail going in nearby? This will help.

How much do you want for your 'secret' spot Helmesy,
I don't often get to Leichhardt, but I will be needing it this year. :laughing:

 

[Vicious]

I`ve got a couple of questions for everyone.
Do the Wests Tigers and the Wests Tigers fans want to embrace the Liverpool-Macarthur region as it`s own or not?
The next question is why would any talented young footballer from this region such as Brett Hodgson, John Skandalis, Chris Lawrence, Jarryd Hayne, Israel Folau and Krisnan Inu just to name a few, feel any sense of belonging or attachment to the Wests Tigers in their current form and with their current plans???
it`s quite obvious the likes of Hayne, Folau, Inu etx didn`t feel any sense of belonging or attachment to what is supposed to be the local club in the area they grew up in!

 

[Yossarian]

You need a special secret parking spot like I have :slight_smile:

Seriously though isn't the light rail going in nearby? This will help.

How much do you want for your 'secret' spot Helmesy,
I don't often get to Leichhardt, but I will be needing it this year. :laughing:

Come on you can't expect people to give up their secret Leichhardt spots! I'm was really dirty when they closed down access to this small grass area at the back of Orange Grove PS…

Anyway driving to LO is more about being able to get away smoothly. People always moan about this. As long as you avoid Balmain Road you'll be sweet.

 

[Yossarian]

I`ve got a couple of questions for everyone.
Do the Wests Tigers and the Wests Tigers fans want to embrace the Liverpool-Macarthur region as it`s own or not?
The next question is why would any talented young footballer from this region such as Brett Hodgson, John Skandalis, Chris Lawrence, Jarryd Hayne, Israel Folau and Krisnan Inu just to name a few, feel any sense of belonging or attachment to the Wests Tigers in their current form and with their current plans???
it`s quite obvious the likes of Hayne, Folau, Inu etx didn`t feel any sense of belonging or attachment to what is supposed to be the local club in the area they grew up in!

Stop using Israel Folau as an example for one thing. His family moved to Queensland. To suggest this happened because of a lack of attachment to Wests Tigers is ridiculous.

Besides the flip side is would you be happy to give up on the inner-west and have guys like Robbie Farah and Aaron Woods go elsewhere? I apologise if I misunderstand your post but the club needs to look after both Campbelltown and the Balmain district but at the end of the day the running of juniors, for better or worse, is largely in the hands of the junior district football clubs. And right now that means getting Wests Campbelltown to get their house in order or hand over the running of things to Wests Tigers.

 

[innsaneink]

I'd like to see them do what Parra do….have kids from a local team walk then run onto the field soccer style
Player-kid...player - kid etc

You could do this 6 times a year each for Wests & Balmain kids...this on top of the half time footy the u/8s play is a little bit more to give them a feeling of ''thats my team''

The club does school hol clinics, kids to kangaroos thru juniors...I know Balmain Juniors gear now bears the Wests Tigers logo...shorts & jumpers usually.

 

[Vicious]

I`ve got a couple of questions for everyone.
Do the Wests Tigers and the Wests Tigers fans want to embrace the Liverpool-Macarthur region as it`s own or not?
The next question is why would any talented young footballer from this region such as Brett Hodgson, John Skandalis, Chris Lawrence, Jarryd Hayne, Israel Folau and Krisnan Inu just to name a few, feel any sense of belonging or attachment to the Wests Tigers in their current form and with their current plans???
it`s quite obvious the likes of Hayne, Folau, Inu etx didn`t feel any sense of belonging or attachment to what is supposed to be the local club in the area they grew up in!

Stop using Israel Folau as an example for one thing. His family moved to Queensland. To suggest this happened because of a lack of attachment to Wests Tigers is ridiculous.

Besides the flip side is would you be happy to give up on the inner-west and have guys like Robbie Farah and Aaron Woods go elsewhere? I apologise if I misunderstand your post but the club needs to look after both Campbelltown and the Balmain district but at the end of the day the running of juniors, for better or worse, is largely in the hands of the junior district football clubs. And right now that means getting Wests Campbelltown to get their house in order or hand over the running of things to Wests Tigers.

The point is the kids from the Balmain District have plenty of reasons to want to one day play for the Wests Tigers, I can`t see near as many reasons why kids from the Wests District would want to one play for the Wests Tigers yet this is the much bigger and much faster growing area.
As a Wests Tigers fan, this concerns me and I have lived my whole life in the inner west and have my son playing in the Balmain Junior District Rugby League as I did myself.
There is nothing wrong with the young kids playing in the Balmain District Junior Rugby League, I see for myself that there is plenty of talent, but to disregard the Liverpool-Macarthur region to me is rediculous and cannot be a good thing for the Wests Tigers long term!

 

[Muffstar]

I think if its time to ditch the state cup teams, then its time to ditch the old grounds as well.

This is the time to make a move…ALL or nothing...no more farting around hanging onto scraps and remnants of memories.

No pretend BS...go hard and REALLY and truly stand on our own two feet!

ONE home ground...SFS!

This works well for Melbourne based AFL clubs where the suburban grounds are a thing of the past. Most clubs use the same ground now as their 'home' ground.

People here are often criticising Leihhardt and CO, then SFS is not a bad option as it seems that no one wants to spend money on either LO or CO to get them to a state where it is now suitable for today's supporters.

SFS has good facilities, good corporate, and it is a good ground to watch football.

But people need to get over that their team is no longer in their back yard anymore and that we have moved on with the merger, the past is the past the future is the way ahead.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think if its time to ditch the state cup teams, then its time to ditch the old grounds as well.

This is the time to make a move…ALL or nothing...no more farting around hanging onto scraps and remnants of memories.

No pretend BS...go hard and REALLY and truly stand on our own two feet!

ONE home ground...SFS!

You know Ink you might have hit the nail on the head there .

Especially if the aren't prepared to seriously upgrade LO

In this day and age people want all the mod cons

Maybe only play 2 games at LO and CS and the rest at SFS

 

[black_and_white_tige]

I think if its time to ditch the state cup teams, then its time to ditch the old grounds as well.

This is the time to make a move…ALL or nothing...no more farting around hanging onto scraps and remnants of memories.

No pretend BS...go hard and REALLY and truly stand on our own two feet!

ONE home ground...SFS!

You know Ink you might have hit the nail on the head there .

Especially if the aren't prepared to seriously upgrade LO

In this day and age people want all the mod cons

Maybe only play 2 games at LO and CS and the rest at SFS

And there goes your home ground advantage.!

 

[Tiger_Watto]

What's home ground advantage?

 

[Tiger_Watto]

The point is the kids from the Balmain District have plenty of reasons to want to one day play for the Wests Tigers, I can`t see near as many reasons why kids from the Wests District would want to one play for the Wests Tigers yet this is the much bigger and much faster growing area.
As a Wests Tigers fan, this concerns me and I have lived my whole life in the inner west and have my son playing in the Balmain Junior District Rugby League as I did myself.
There is nothing wrong with the young kids playing in the Balmain District Junior Rugby League, I see for myself that there is plenty of talent, but to disregard the Liverpool-Macarthur region to me is rediculous and cannot be a good thing for the Wests Tigers long term!

Why is it you believe the Balmain kids have plenty of reason, yet the Wests kids don't? How is the NSWRL / NRL / Wests Tigers ignoring the Wests kids more than the Balmain kids?

 

[black_and_white_tige]

What's home ground advantage?

I knew someone would have bite.

So what are you saying, that all this talk about Leichhardt oval being a Spiritual home ground and a 12 point advantage to the tigers is BS. !
Why do all NRL teams fight so hard to get into the top 4, it's not only to get a second bite at the cherry it's also for the home ground advantage.
You ask any player, I'm sure they would rather player at CSS or Leichhardt Oval where the Tigers fans out number the opposition 3 to 1 as compared to a mutual ground where the ratio is probably 1 to 1.
IMO that's an advantage.