Taylor / Farah

@Pawsandclaws said:
@wd in perth said:
For me it just beggars belief that a coach isn't in control of what happens regarding his playing roster. Potter had no control, and Taylor can't steer his team in the direction that he wants. Pisses me off that a coach has to wear the blame all the damn time. I hope he just decides to play Cherrington and Ballin more often than not.

Outrageous that a coach who knew what roster he had to work with when he signed with the club cannot simply get rid of a player with 2 years left on his contract. Even more so that said player would stand up to the illustrious coach and hand him his backside in a sling.

If the relationship is so bad, between the two which it clearly is given all that has transpired, then surely the coach should be able to have the final say. Obviously he can't cut him adrift and not pay the guy, but surely the club should support his decisions made during his tenure. After all, it was Taylors vision that they were depending on. Not the wants of an ageing footballer. But no - the club has a spine of peanut brittle. Strong clubs focus on a vision. And they set a course and don't sway from it - it's called belief. I don't agree with Taylors game plans, but at the end of the day, he should be in charge - not Farah, not Ayoub, not the media and not the fans.
 
@wd in perth said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@wd in perth said:
For me it just beggars belief that a coach isn't in control of what happens regarding his playing roster. Potter had no control, and Taylor can't steer his team in the direction that he wants. Pisses me off that a coach has to wear the blame all the damn time. I hope he just decides to play Cherrington and Ballin more often than not.

Outrageous that a coach who knew what roster he had to work with when he signed with the club cannot simply get rid of a player with 2 years left on his contract. Even more so that said player would stand up to the illustrious coach and hand him his backside in a sling.

If the relationship is so bad, between the two which it clearly is given all that has transpired, then surely the coach should be able to have the final say. Obviously he can't cut him adrift and not pay the guy, but surely the club should support his decisions made during his tenure. After all, it was Taylors vision that they were depending on. Not the wants of an ageing footballer. But no - the club has a spine of peanut brittle. Strong clubs focus on a vision. And they set a course and don't sway from it - it's called belief. I don't agree with Taylors game plans, but at the end of the day, he should be in charge - not Farah, not Ayoub, not the media and not the fans.

The coach had his say, wd.
Told Farah he was free to look elsewhere.
Farah had a contract and, within his rights, said he would prefer to stay.
Only option after that if Taylor really wanted him gone was to pay him out - in full.
We all know the club doesn't have the money for that.
Even if they did then how bad would it look if, after they paid him all his contract money, they then went on to lose the first six games and had to sack Taylor?
 
Over the past few years I seen WT lose so many games when Farah was not there that I despair of them playing without him. They may have lost with him as well but not because of him. And yes Geo I did not see that many games.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@matchball said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@matchball said:
Im sick to death of reading about these two.
Didnt the other 300+ thread get it out of your system?

Please round 1 hurry up.

There's a very obvious solution to this. I wonder if you can work out what it is.

Put you on my ignore list?

It's akin to me saying "I'm sick to death of reading Harry Potter". Why would I read something I'm sick of? I just wouldn't open the book to begin with. Why would you bother opening a thread about a topic you're sick of, and then complain about it.

Please explain.
 
@wd in perth said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@wd in perth said:
For me it just beggars belief that a coach isn't in control of what happens regarding his playing roster. Potter had no control, and Taylor can't steer his team in the direction that he wants. Pisses me off that a coach has to wear the blame all the damn time. I hope he just decides to play Cherrington and Ballin more often than not.

Outrageous that a coach who knew what roster he had to work with when he signed with the club cannot simply get rid of a player with 2 years left on his contract. Even more so that said player would stand up to the illustrious coach and hand him his backside in a sling.

If the relationship is so bad, between the two which it clearly is given all that has transpired, then surely the coach should be able to have the final say. Obviously he can't cut him adrift and not pay the guy, but surely the club should support his decisions made during his tenure. After all, it was Taylors vision that they were depending on. Not the wants of an ageing footballer. But no - the club has a spine of peanut brittle. Strong clubs focus on a vision. And they set a course and don't sway from it - it's called belief. I don't agree with Taylors game plans, but at the end of the day, he should be in charge - not Farah, not Ayoub, not the media and not the fans.

Yep!
How can we be strong on-field when we are as weak as a limp lettuce off it.
The entire club, and a large portion of the fanbase is in denial
 
@cktiger said:
@wd in perth said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@wd in perth said:
For me it just beggars belief that a coach isn't in control of what happens regarding his playing roster. Potter had no control, and Taylor can't steer his team in the direction that he wants. Pisses me off that a coach has to wear the blame all the damn time. I hope he just decides to play Cherrington and Ballin more often than not.

Outrageous that a coach who knew what roster he had to work with when he signed with the club cannot simply get rid of a player with 2 years left on his contract. Even more so that said player would stand up to the illustrious coach and hand him his backside in a sling.

If the relationship is so bad, between the two which it clearly is given all that has transpired, then surely the coach should be able to have the final say. Obviously he can't cut him adrift and not pay the guy, but surely the club should support his decisions made during his tenure. After all, it was Taylors vision that they were depending on. Not the wants of an ageing footballer. But no - the club has a spine of peanut brittle. Strong clubs focus on a vision. And they set a course and don't sway from it - it's called belief. I don't agree with Taylors game plans, but at the end of the day, he should be in charge - not Farah, not Ayoub, not the media and not the fans.

The coach had his say, wd.
Told Farah he was free to look elsewhere.
Farah had a contract and, within his rights, said he would prefer to stay.
Only option after that if Taylor really wanted him gone was to pay him out - in full.
We all know the club doesn't have the money for that.
Even if they did then how bad would it look if, after they paid him all his contract money, they then went on to lose the first six games and had to sack Taylor?

Well I get your point, but in the end, they were banking on Taylors plans. Those plans were to cut Farah. Ok, so they agree on that and Farah also requests the opportunity to shop around. So lets pay the guy out in full and move on. Lets lose the first 6 games. Lets lose more - I don't care how many we lose if it's the stepping stone to better things. keeping both him and a coach that doesn't want him is just asking for more of the same drama. A never ending cycle of media attention, speculation and frustrated fans. Whilst we lose and Farahs around it's always the coaches fault. Id rather lose without him than lose with him. And thats whats been happening for years now
 
Denial, what denial? Cos surely as long as the messiah remains firm in the nine, even without the C as dressing, all will continue to rocket along just as smoothly.
 
Roosters' fans tell it how it is

http://www.thechookpen.com.au/vb5/forum/rugby-league/rugby-league-discussion/615856-jason-taylor-ain-t-a-coaches-freckle
 
When you start sniffing around to see what the cocks have to say, you know you have already pulled yourself stupid.

Keep up the good work!
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Roosters' fans tell it how it is

http://www.thechookpen.com.au/vb5/forum/rugby-league/rugby-league-discussion/615856-jason-taylor-ain-t-a-coaches-freckle

Budding Telecrap journo in the making here

how lame
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Roosters' fans tell it how it is

http://www.thechookpen.com.au/vb5/forum/rugby-league/rugby-league-discussion/615856-jason-taylor-ain-t-a-coaches-freckle

I see your other Club opinions and raise you more numpty's opinions…

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=450908

NRL fans tell it how it is... :unamused:
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Roosters' fans tell it how it is

http://www.thechookpen.com.au/vb5/forum/rugby-league/rugby-league-discussion/615856-jason-taylor-ain-t-a-coaches-freckle

P&C, you had a very impressive initial post and have often provided some insightful commentary. You have been a strong supporter of Robbie (as I have mostly been) but I feel you're doing yourself no favours with the constant Taylor criticisms.

The club has made its decision. Both will be here in the short term at the very least. Both have pledged to work with one another. We now have to see if that works and if JT can adapt his game plans to suit and make best use of the cattle he has at his disposal.

I suggest we drop the vitriol for a little while and see where we are by round 6 before we start asking for heads to roll.

You're obviously a passionate Wests Tigers fan which is great but perhaps direct it in a more positive way.

Thanks :wink:
 
LOL at fans throwing the toys out the cot because our State Of Origin Hooker and club stalwart has remained at the club.

I reckon the club will have lost many less memberships with the decision that Farah is staying.

The die hards in here seem 50/50, the casual fans i speak to are all against the way Farah was treated.

:bawling
 
@Eddie said:
LOL at fans throwing the toys out the cot because our State Of Origin Hooker and club stalwart has remained at the club.

I reckon the club will have lost many less memberships with the decision that Farah is staying.

The die hards in here seem 50/50, the casual fans i speak to are all against the way Farah was treated.

:bawling

I wouldnt be LOLing at anyone ed, I clearly remember you very recently getting all hysterical one weekend
 
@wd in perth said:
@cktiger said:
@wd in perth said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Outrageous that a coach who knew what roster he had to work with when he signed with the club cannot simply get rid of a player with 2 years left on his contract. Even more so that said player would stand up to the illustrious coach and hand him his backside in a sling.

If the relationship is so bad, between the two which it clearly is given all that has transpired, then surely the coach should be able to have the final say. Obviously he can't cut him adrift and not pay the guy, but surely the club should support his decisions made during his tenure. After all, it was Taylors vision that they were depending on. Not the wants of an ageing footballer. But no - the club has a spine of peanut brittle. Strong clubs focus on a vision. And they set a course and don't sway from it - it's called belief. I don't agree with Taylors game plans, but at the end of the day, he should be in charge - not Farah, not Ayoub, not the media and not the fans.

The coach had his say, wd.
Told Farah he was free to look elsewhere.
Farah had a contract and, within his rights, said he would prefer to stay.
Only option after that if Taylor really wanted him gone was to pay him out - in full.
We all know the club doesn't have the money for that.
Even if they did then how bad would it look if, after they paid him all his contract money, they then went on to lose the first six games and had to sack Taylor?

Well I get your point, but in the end, they were banking on Taylors plans. Those plans were to cut Farah. Ok, so they agree on that and Farah also requests the opportunity to shop around. So lets pay the guy out in full and move on. Lets lose the first 6 games. Lets lose more - I don't care how many we lose if it's the stepping stone to better things. keeping both him and a coach that doesn't want him is just asking for more of the same drama. A never ending cycle of media attention, speculation and frustrated fans. Whilst we lose and Farahs around it's always the coaches fault. Id rather lose without him than lose with him. And thats whats been happening for years now

I agree.
 
I don't understand why you all have it in for Farah. One drama in ten years due to a commentator breaking trust and you want to hang him. Taylor has a lot longer list of drama over his career but he is flavour of the month. I can understand Farah being a little melodramatic due to his personal circumstances around that time.

My list of his positives a few pages back holds up, the record is there. Considering that the haters are a minority their opinion almost means nothing. If it meant something club membership would have gone through the roof when Farah's Dear John moment arrived last August.
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I don't understand why you all have it in for Farah. One drama in ten years due to a commentator breaking trust and you want to hang him. Taylor has a lot longer list of drama over his career but he is flavour of the month. I can understand Farah being a little melodramatic due to his personal circumstances around that time.

My list of his positives a few pages back holds up, the record is there. Considering that the haters are a minority their opinion almost means nothing. If it meant something club membership would have gone through the roof when Farah's Dear John moment arrived last August.

It's the way he carries himself when under the pump. He is immature.
Have you forgotten the loss at Campbelltown just after the tallisgate broke when he ran for a waiting car in the carpark to avoid the media and left the boys in the shed bewildered? Pathetic for a veteran captain.
He lost me that day.
 
@matchball said:
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I don't understand why you all have it in for Farah. One drama in ten years due to a commentator breaking trust and you want to hang him. Taylor has a lot longer list of drama over his career but he is flavour of the month. I can understand Farah being a little melodramatic due to his personal circumstances around that time.

My list of his positives a few pages back holds up, the record is there. Considering that the haters are a minority their opinion almost means nothing. If it meant something club membership would have gone through the roof when Farah's Dear John moment arrived last August.

It's the way he carries himself when under the pump. He is immature.
Have you forgotten the loss at Campbelltown just after the tallisgate broke when he ran for a waiting car in the carpark to avoid the media and left the boys in the shed bewildered? Pathetic for a veteran captain.
He lost me that day.

Very well said. Mirrors my opinion.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Roosters' fans tell it how it is

http://www.thechookpen.com.au/vb5/forum/rugby-league/rugby-league-discussion/615856-jason-taylor-ain-t-a-coaches-freckle

Right, a bit of hindsight commentary about a coach who is no longer at their club. All half dozen posts as well, so plenty got involved in that discussion…

Half a dozen cocks fans said he sucks, that ratifies my opinion! :laughing:

![](https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5055/5399805046_0d30e4dd70.jpg)

Your disdain for Taylor is bordering on the obsessive. Farah's staying, have a bex and a lie down.
 

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