Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap

[Aubanon]

The NRL should allow us to pay Momo, yet have Grants salary count towards our cap (and vice versa).

That way, no one can argue it's unfair coz each squad stays under the cap. Just means we are spending more on wages.

 

[cochise]

The problem appears to be that the Storm want to pay Grant's salary not Momo's, they want Momo without adding anything more to their cap!

 

[phil1986]

The NRL should allow us to pay Momo, yet have Grants salary count towards our cap (and vice versa).

That way, no one can argue it's unfair coz each squad stays under the cap. Just means we are spending more on wages.

For transparency, in an arrangement like this, I feel both clubs should have the proviso for the higher contracted player. (Under the cap)

To stop anything that will disadvantage the other 14 teams etc

Just say momo $150k, grant 90k.

Both team need to have $150k space, or held space for that player from the salary cap.

Fairest way

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

The problem appears to be that the Storm want to pay Grant's salary not Momo's, they want Momo without adding anything more to their cap!

Stuff em then play Mbye at 9 and momo back to centre or Talau.

 

[TheDaBoss]

We steal from eels

And borrow from storm

Easy

 

[twentyforty]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

 

[TrueTiger]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I was of the understanding that the swap was Melb pay HG we pay Momo...shouldn't affect either cap...I don't know why it became complicated ..but still agree that it is a great scenario that should be signed off by the NRL..

 

[twentyforty]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I was of the understanding that the swap was Melb pay HG we pay Momo...shouldn't affect either cap...I don't know why it became complicated ..but still agree that it is a great scenario that should be signed off by the NRL..

It should be no different than Stefano’s situation which has been sanctioned by the NRL . If both clubs wanted this to proceed then the players would cxl their existing contracts with each player entering into 2 new contracts mirroring existing conditions. That’s a swap without any reshaping of the cap.

 

[supercoach]

For once I think the NRL have a fair point. If the Storm pick up a player worth say 200g that’s what should come off their cap regardless of who is paying the 200g

 

[MightyMaggy]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I was of the understanding that the swap was Melb pay HG we pay Momo...shouldn't affect either cap...***I don't know why it became complicated*** ..but still agree that it is a great scenario that should be signed off by the NRL..

The NRL and Greenbarg became involved.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I was of the understanding that the swap was Melb pay HG we pay Momo...shouldn't affect either cap...***I don't know why it became complicated*** ..but still agree that it is a great scenario that should be signed off by the NRL..

The NRL and Greenbarg became involved.

Being the first it's always going to take a while as it sets a precedent. Im more worried they will balls up something while probably not affecting this deal but the next one which will benefit some other team

 

[twentyforty]

For once I think the NRL have a fair point. If the Storm pick up a player worth say 200g that’s what should come off their cap regardless of who is paying the 200g

Under normal circumstances on the open market would Storm pay $350k for Moma? It would be normal for the NRL to baulk at a swap deal involving a struggling club and a successful club where, regardless of the roster needs, the struggling club is cap disadvantaged. I think Bellamy has to give a little more for this deal to proceed. Both clubs could underwrite the swap deal with a letter of understanding. This business makes me wonder about how much cap trouble Storm are in? Considering they have moved on a few players and the rhetoric around JAC?

 

[Geo]

NRL are visionaries..said no one ever..

 

[cochise]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I was of the understanding that the swap was Melb pay HG we pay Momo...shouldn't affect either cap...I don't know why it became complicated ..but still agree that it is a great scenario that should be signed off by the NRL..

It should be no different than Stefano’s situation which has been sanctioned by the NRL . If both clubs wanted this to proceed then the players would cxl their existing contracts with each player entering into 2 new contracts mirroring existing conditions. That’s a swap without any reshaping of the cap.

The Storm want the existing contracts to remain so they don't have to pay any more than they are already!

 

[cochise]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I was of the understanding that the swap was Melb pay HG we pay Momo...shouldn't affect either cap...I don't know why it became complicated ..but still agree that it is a great scenario that should be signed off by the NRL..

Because the NRL believe that Momo is worth more than the Storm are paying Grant, so they view it as a way of going over the cap!

 

[cochise]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I believe you are correct!

 

[beachtiger]

I’m not sure how it works in EPL or NBL with these things but over there do they have player swaps for a season or are they player loans??

In the case of a loan I think it would be a simple process as it’s like a lease agreement. Club A leases our player and pays us directly for the period while we keep paying the player but our player stays in our salary cap and only affects us.

With a swap though when players are on different salaries wouldn’t the value of each player need to be counted towards the club they are playing for?? In this case Melbourne are now incurring more of a hit on their cap and we receive a reduction.

I understand the NRL are not visionaries however I can see how this can potentially set a dangerous precedent. I’ve got no doubt this wouldn’t happen with players that weren’t similar in salary but a precedent would be set if potentially a club wanted to swap a player that was on $450k with a player that was only in $100k, salary cap scenario then takes a very different twist for both clubs.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I feel that the NRL is arguing against a disparity that they already preside over. Every reasonable supporter understands that the lower clubs have to pay a premium to attract talent and that a few clubs have rosters under the same cap and with supposedly meagre TPA's, that are impossible for most clubs to assemble.

 

[twentyforty]

I think the the reason this is not proceeding is because Bellamy won’t budge? Is it possible he thought he could swap a gogomobile for a Maserati without a price/cap adjustment? imo

I believe you are correct!

The way I see the clubs wanting to proceed is .. WT get Grant on minimum wage for $350k or whatever Moma is on. A good first swap test case would be where both players are on the same money. ie until the NRL get into the swing of it.?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The NRL should allow us to pay Momo, yet have Grants salary count towards our cap (and vice versa).

That way, no one can argue it's unfair coz each squad stays under the cap. Just means we are spending more on wages.

For transparency, in an arrangement like this, I feel both clubs should have the proviso for the higher contracted player. (Under the cap)

To stop anything that will disadvantage the other 14 teams etc

Just say momo $150k, grant 90k.

Both team need to have $150k space, or held space for that player from the salary cap.

Fairest way

Nice post mate.