Tigers board to undertake post-season review

[jirskyr]

Does anyone else not give a rats about the Rorters or is it just me...

Actually out of all the top clubs I admire them. Tend to keep it to myself though when Im not telling everyone on a public forum.

Any other club and people would be behind them atm given how brave they have been with their injuries. I think they will be the team to beat next year.

So when they have a team of also rans and youngsters with little game time they get belted from pillar to post. Playing roster reminds me of another team that gets slammed for such inept performances.

This is what gets me. Even with all the injuries they still had Teddy Crichton Radley and Tupenoa.-and get smashed.We currently don't have players of that calibre any week. And some still think we underachieved. Add those 4 players to our squad and most of our fans would have us top 4 bound yet for the Roosters it is their weakest team and the reason why they did not go further.
If we sack a coach based on the results of this current squad any credibilty we had as far as effecting change is almost laughable imo.

I agree - I don't feel sorry for the Roosters and I'm not impressed by their performance. I'm also vindictive though and I recognise that. Of course they are still a good side - they have the world's best fullback of the past 5 years and arguably the second-best coach of the modern era, with a very deep roster even when it's put to the test.

Of course we should aspire to be more like the Roosters, but I'm never entirely sure it's a level playing field comparing yourself to the Roosters.

The team that is regularly mocked as having a "salary sombrero", and they don't seem to care, and 4 years ago they bought 2 x $1M players in a single recruitment session - well this year's injury tolls show you just how far that salary sombrero stretches, that they can lose 7 or 8 established FG players and still make it to the finals with a fairly competent roster.

If they lost Tedesco, I think they slide right out of the finals, and I think that's the main thing about 2021's injury toll for the Roosters. Keary was a premiership-aspiration blow, but every other player could be covered. E.g. they lose Lindsay Collins but for most of the season they still have JWH and Taukeiaho.

But what it does show you is a handful of good players plus competent "triers" will simply NOT match it with genuine premiership contenders. The whole team has to lift the entire year. But it also does show you that one very elite player (i.e. a Tedesco or a Turbo) remaining uninjured can keep your slim chances alive.

 

[TigerWest]

Does anyone else not give a rats about the Rorters or is it just me...

Actually out of all the top clubs I admire them. Tend to keep it to myself though when Im not telling everyone on a public forum.

Any other club and people would be behind them atm given how brave they have been with their injuries. I think they will be the team to beat next year.

So when they have a team of also rans and youngsters with little game time they get belted from pillar to post. Playing roster reminds me of another team that gets slammed for such inept performances.

This is what gets me. Even with all the injuries they still had Teddy Crichton Radley and Tupenoa.-and get smashed.We currently don't have players of that calibre any week. And some still think we underachieved. Add those 4 players to our squad and most of our fans would have us top 4 bound yet for the Roosters it is their weakest team and the reason why they did not go further.
If we sack a coach based on the results of this current squad any credibilty we had as far as effecting change is almost laughable imo.

I agree - I don't feel sorry for the Roosters and I'm not impressed by their performance. I'm also vindictive though and I recognise that. Of course they are still a good side - they have the world's best fullback of the past 5 years and arguably the second-best coach of the modern era, with a very deep roster even when it's put to the test.

Of course we should aspire to be more like the Roosters, but I'm never entirely sure it's a level playing field comparing yourself to the Roosters.

The team that is regularly mocked as having a "salary sombrero", and they don't seem to care, and 4 years ago they bought 2 x $1M players in a single recruitment session - well this year's injury tolls show you just how far that salary sombrero stretches, that they can lose 7 or 8 established FG players and still make it to the finals with a fairly competent roster.

If they lost Tedesco, I think they slide right out of the finals, and I think that's the main thing about 2021's injury toll for the Roosters. Keary was a premiership-aspiration blow, but every other player could be covered. E.g. they lose Lindsay Collins but for most of the season they still have JWH and Taukeiaho.

But what it does show you is a handful of good players plus competent "triers" will simply NOT match it with genuine premiership contenders. The whole team has to lift the entire year. But it also does show you that one very elite player (i.e. a Tedesco or a Turbo) remaining uninjured can keep your slim chances alive.

Agree, we just need at least one good back and forward, they certainly make a difference and would improve our team no end, remembering we weren’t that far away from the 8 most of the season?

 

[innsaneink]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Correct, the Roosters looked physically spent. As much as I hate to say it, the way they dealt with adversity this year was pretty amazing. They had plenty of reasons to give up but kept finding another way to move forward. This is the polar opposite of our beloved club where time after time setbacks are met with capitulation.

Spot on both of you
To compare us to their last game is laughable.... Their fans would be disappointed but proud of that effort week after week after week
We did it for 20 or 30 minutes sometimes

 

[Lauren]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

 

[tony soprano]

I can’t handle the suspense. Not knowing what Pascoe and Lee will do next is leading to a lot of speculation about the review.
My best guess is the review is finished, because if they have their finger on the pulse they would already have opinions, based on the answer to 3 questions.
1. Where are we now?
2. Where do we want to go?
3. What is the best way to get there?
It would come as no surprise that the last question has them stumped. They are waiting on an answer, possibly in the form of a personnel change. Another bandaid.

I ask myself these questions every day.

 

[jirskyr]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

 

[Lauren]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

C'mon @jirskyr it's too early for me to get into it. Especially over another team?
Think mostly everyone's view on them has been despite how understrengthened they've been there's still been some immense effort. Which was what I was emphasising.

 

[jirskyr]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

C'mon @jirskyr it's too early for me to get into it. Especially over another team?
Think mostly everyone's view on them has been despite how understrengthened they've been there's still been some immense effort. Which was what I was emphasising.

Yes they are a very good side. Yes they always hang tough and are competitive consistently all year.

Reality is though Roosters were never within cooee of the Top 4 sides and we don't know if they would have been barring injuries. Roosters have been flogged every time they've come up against a top 4 side - they are 1 win and 7 losses against the Top 4, for-and-against of 110 to 250. That 110 includes a 46-4 win over Manly Round 1.

I just want to say it one time for myself: a team that's already very good and with a very deep roster doesn't impress me when they carry on despite a serious injury toll. The team that Roosters ran out last night, despite being tired and humbled by Manly, was arguably better than any side fielded by Tigers in 2021. That's not a slight on the Roosters, it's not their fault their team is so good, but it's not impressive to keep winning with a backup side better than half the comp's first-choice side.

The fact they were easily handled every time they met a Top 4 side - tells you exactly where they are at. Completely speculative whether or not a full-strength Roosters can compete with the Top 4.

Also illuminating that once you strip away a bunch of established first graders, a team of younger and inexperienced players tends to get heavily defeated by decent sides - many of the Roosters' results became blow-outs despite the fact they didn't stop trying.

For example last night Roosters got done by 36, in a finals match, the most important match of the year. Tigers never fared worse against Manly, though we were resoundly beaten both times.

 

[jirskyr]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

C'mon @jirskyr it's too early for me to get into it. Especially over another team?
Think mostly everyone's view on them has been despite how understrengthened they've been there's still been some immense effort. Which was what I was emphasising.

Yes they are a very good side. Yes they always hang tough and are competitive consistently all year.

Reality is though Roosters were never within cooee of the Top 4 sides and we don't know if they would have been barring injuries. Roosters have been flogged every time they've come up against a top 4 side - they are 1 win and 7 losses against the Top 4, for-and-against of 110 to 250. That 110 includes a 46-4 win over Manly Round 1.

I just want to say it one time for myself: a team that's already very good and with a very deep roster doesn't impress me when they carry on despite a serious injury toll. The team that Roosters ran out last night, despite being tired and humbled by Manly, was arguably better than any side fielded by Tigers in 2021. That's not a slight on the Roosters, it's not their fault their team is so good, but it's not impressive to keep winning with a backup side better than half the comp's first-choice side.

Melbourne also had notable injuries - Munster missed a period, Papenhuyzen has only played 14 matches this year; Harry Grant has only played 13. Melbourne haven't missed a beat. Penrith hardly either despite Cleary going down.

Sorry but I do agree with you (about the Roosters) yet admit I found it much admirable, as the year went along.
For me, it was good to watch other teams suffer - with key players out. Makes me think if we land one or two quality signings we're on our way.

I'm only joking with you, but the idea of admiring the Roosters - makes me sick. It's like admiring the Eels. Blerk.

I can admire Storm, Manly for how excellent they are. Souths I can respect they are smart and competitive, and no matter what most sides do, their LHS attack is lethal. Penrith have a good forward pack and their halves are very good. Everyone else can go to hell.

 

[Telltails]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

C'mon @jirskyr it's too early for me to get into it. Especially over another team?
Think mostly everyone's view on them has been despite how understrengthened they've been there's still been some immense effort. Which was what I was emphasising.

Yes they are a very good side. Yes they always hang tough and are competitive consistently all year.

Reality is though Roosters were never within cooee of the Top 4 sides and we don't know if they would have been barring injuries. Roosters have been flogged every time they've come up against a top 4 side - they are 1 win and 7 losses against the Top 4, for-and-against of 110 to 250. That 110 includes a 46-4 win over Manly Round 1.

I just want to say it one time for myself: a team that's already very good and with a very deep roster doesn't impress me when they carry on despite a serious injury toll. The team that Roosters ran out last night, despite being tired and humbled by Manly, was arguably better than any side fielded by Tigers in 2021. That's not a slight on the Roosters, it's not their fault their team is so good, but it's not impressive to keep winning with a backup side better than half the comp's first-choice side.

Melbourne also had notable injuries - Munster missed a period, Papenhuyzen has only played 14 matches this year; Harry Grant has only played 13. Melbourne haven't missed a beat. Penrith hardly either despite Cleary going down.

This exactly . Their worst side is being measured against other teams below them that would kill to have Teddy, Crichton, Radley, Tupounia, in their side any week - and would significantly improve them. But for the Roosters this is considered a poor side.
Robinson says they trained well all week but just couldn't execute the plan.. heard that before translates to the other side were better than us.

 

[twentyforty]

I can’t handle the suspense. Not knowing what Pascoe and Lee will do next is leading to a lot of speculation about the review.
My best guess is the review is finished, because if they have their finger on the pulse they would already have opinions, based on the answer to 3 questions.
1. Where are we now?
2. Where do we want to go?
3. What is the best way to get there?
It would come as no surprise that the last question has them stumped. They are waiting on an answer, possibly in the form of a personnel change. Another bandaid.

I ask myself these questions every day.

Yeh me too, soon as I wake up

 

[Plisskin]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

In previous seasons, this side would have maybe snuck into the 8 but in this year’s weak comp, they proved as long as you have a go for the full 80, you can finish well.
16 competition wins + 1 finals win …It is quite the effort and only the most bitter fans would bemoan the resilience and fortitude of the Sydney Roosters of 2021.

 

[Needaname]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

C'mon @jirskyr it's too early for me to get into it. Especially over another team?
Think mostly everyone's view on them has been despite how understrengthened they've been there's still been some immense effort. Which was what I was emphasising.

Yes they are a very good side. Yes they always hang tough and are competitive consistently all year.

Reality is though Roosters were never within cooee of the Top 4 sides and we don't know if they would have been barring injuries. Roosters have been flogged every time they've come up against a top 4 side - they are 1 win and 7 losses against the Top 4, for-and-against of 110 to 250. That 110 includes a 46-4 win over Manly Round 1.

I just want to say it one time for myself: a team that's already very good and with a very deep roster doesn't impress me when they carry on despite a serious injury toll. The team that Roosters ran out last night, despite being tired and humbled by Manly, was arguably better than any side fielded by Tigers in 2021. That's not a slight on the Roosters, it's not their fault their team is so good, but it's not impressive to keep winning with a backup side better than half the comp's first-choice side.

The fact they were easily handled every time they met a Top 4 side - tells you exactly where they are at. Completely speculative whether or not a full-strength Roosters can compete with the Top 4.

Also illuminating that once you strip away a bunch of established first graders, a team of younger and inexperienced players tends to get heavily defeated by decent sides - many of the Roosters' results became blow-outs despite the fact they didn't stop trying.

For example last night Roosters got done by 36, in a finals match, the most important match of the year. Tigers never fared worse against Manly, though we were resoundly beaten both times.

I think for most, this season could of been a repeat of 2016 for them, when at the duration they ended up finishing 15th. But some how since that time then, Robbo and the senior group squad has managed a mass injury toll and snuck in a mini rebuild of the playing group but still remain competitive.
They may of been fodder to every side above and including parramatta but there is no denying they easily accounted for the teams below them.

 

[Plisskin]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

C'mon @jirskyr it's too early for me to get into it. Especially over another team?
Think mostly everyone's view on them has been despite how understrengthened they've been there's still been some immense effort. Which was what I was emphasising.

Yes they are a very good side. Yes they always hang tough and are competitive consistently all year.

Reality is though Roosters were never within cooee of the Top 4 sides and we don't know if they would have been barring injuries. Roosters have been flogged every time they've come up against a top 4 side - they are 1 win and 7 losses against the Top 4, for-and-against of 110 to 250. That 110 includes a 46-4 win over Manly Round 1.

I just want to say it one time for myself: a team that's already very good and with a very deep roster doesn't impress me when they carry on despite a serious injury toll. The team that Roosters ran out last night, despite being tired and humbled by Manly, was arguably better than any side fielded by Tigers in 2021. That's not a slight on the Roosters, it's not their fault their team is so good, but it's not impressive to keep winning with a backup side better than half the comp's first-choice side.

The fact they were easily handled every time they met a Top 4 side - tells you exactly where they are at. Completely speculative whether or not a full-strength Roosters can compete with the Top 4.

Also illuminating that once you strip away a bunch of established first graders, a team of younger and inexperienced players tends to get heavily defeated by decent sides - many of the Roosters' results became blow-outs despite the fact they didn't stop trying.

For example last night Roosters got done by 36, in a finals match, the most important match of the year. Tigers never fared worse against Manly, though we were resoundly beaten both times.

I think for most, this season could of been a repeat of 2016 for them, when at the duration they ended up finishing 15th. But some how since that time then, Robbo and the senior group squad has managed a mass injury toll and snuck in a mini rebuild of the playing group but still remain competitive.
They may of been fodder to every side above and including parramatta but there is no denying they easily accounted for the teams below them.

Very good and accurate post.

 

[Plisskin]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

Tigers used 31 players, Storm used 32. Cowboys used 34, Bulldogs 35. Broncos used 36. Warriors used 34, Dragons used 33. Eels used 32, Souths 31.

I think it's a bit of a myth how "deep" the injury toll was. Roosters had key injuries, prominent injuries, but didn't use particularly more players than anyone else. The average was something like 32 players per team in 2021.

C'mon @jirskyr it's too early for me to get into it. Especially over another team?
Think mostly everyone's view on them has been despite how understrengthened they've been there's still been some immense effort. Which was what I was emphasising.

Yes they are a very good side. Yes they always hang tough and are competitive consistently all year.

Reality is though Roosters were never within cooee of the Top 4 sides and we don't know if they would have been barring injuries. Roosters have been flogged every time they've come up against a top 4 side - they are 1 win and 7 losses against the Top 4, for-and-against of 110 to 250. That 110 includes a 46-4 win over Manly Round 1.

I just want to say it one time for myself: a team that's already very good and with a very deep roster doesn't impress me when they carry on despite a serious injury toll. The team that Roosters ran out last night, despite being tired and humbled by Manly, was arguably better than any side fielded by Tigers in 2021. That's not a slight on the Roosters, it's not their fault their team is so good, but it's not impressive to keep winning with a backup side better than half the comp's first-choice side.

Melbourne also had notable injuries - Munster missed a period, Papenhuyzen has only played 14 matches this year; Harry Grant has only played 13. Melbourne haven't missed a beat. Penrith hardly either despite Cleary going down.

This exactly . Their worst side is being measured against other teams below them that would kill to have Teddy, Crichton, Radley, Tupounia, in their side any week - and would significantly improve them. But for the Roosters this is considered a poor side.
Robinson says they trained well all week but just couldn't execute the plan.. heard that before translates to the other side were better than us.

You are missing the point.
Their worst side lost in the same fashion as the 10 lowest placed squads best sides did. The fact that this is the case is due to the poor recruitment and coaching of the bottom sides.
The Roosters have proven that lack of effort and preparation played a huge part in final ladder positions this year.

 

[851]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....


When I have seen no defensive structure for 3 seasons you can blame the players all you like , the bottom line is Maguire surrounded himself with very poor assistants this was his doing if he was a good coach he would of rectified the situation:
Maguire is done get over it !

Just curious, @Snake. What will you do if Maguire is retained?

The club has to realise its not good enough to expect supporters every season to pay out hard earned cash when the hard work is not reciprocated!
>

I’d argue Maguire is the hardest worker in the club.

Whilst I could see how you think that, being a hard worker doesn't make you good at your job, we have seen first hand that hard working players are sometimes just ordinary players, how many players have we had that train good but can't perform on game day

 

[yeahcaz]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

The errors and completion rate is because they actually move the ball on every tackle and offload. Not like us which is 4 settlers straight up the guts and then a bomb straight to the fullback

 

[851]

The team that is regularly mocked as having a “salary sombrero”, and they don’t seem to care, and 4 years ago they bought 2 x $1M players in a single recruitment session - well this year’s injury tolls show you just how far that salary sombrero stretches, that they can lose 7 or 8 established FG players and still make it to the finals with a fairly competent roster.

That is the one that really made me cranky, how do they sign two $1,000,000 players in one offseason to add to their already star studded roster, and the NRL say nothing to see here

 

[GCfan]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if ? Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

? What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster ......our roster sucks big time ......Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn't looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years ......we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances .....


When I have seen no defensive structure for 3 seasons you can blame the players all you like , the bottom line is Maguire surrounded himself with very poor assistants this was his doing if he was a good coach he would of rectified the situation:
Maguire is done get over it !

Just curious, @Snake. What will you do if Maguire is retained?

The club has to realise its not good enough to expect supporters every season to pay out hard earned cash when the hard work is not reciprocated!
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I’d argue Maguire is the hardest worker in the club.

Whilst I could see how you think that, being a hard worker doesn't make you good at your job, we have seen first hand that hard working players are sometimes just ordinary players, how many players have we had that train good but can't perform on game day

Understand but my comment was purely addressing the comment made. Perhaps I interpreted it incorrectly but It read like membership shouldn’t be paid due to lack of effort. I was just saying Madge is one of the hardest workers at the club. Now if the implication is a lot of the rooster not working hard I totally agree with that.

 

[851]

The Roosters did still have some stars, however JWH, Radley, Crichton, Teddy etc all missed games during the year for various reasons on top of their injury toll.
That side last night were exhausted because they busted their backsides to make the finals. THAT is the difference between their also rans and us. Our squad did not excert the required effort to win on many occasions this year.

Yeah read this on the NRL subreddit. The Roosters 2021 season summarised:
They used 34 players in total.
Made most errors and had worst completion rate in the competition .
Had multiple retirements, multiple season ending injuries and key players constantly missing.
Somehow still did better than 10 other teams.

In previous seasons, this side would have maybe snuck into the 8 but in this year’s weak comp, they proved as long as you have a go for the full 80, you can finish well.
16 competition wins + 1 finals win …It is quite the effort and only the most bitter fans would bemoan the resilience and fortitude of the Sydney Roosters of 2021.

You are right, this years 8 was very weak, even the great Gus Gould said so, we could of and should of made the 8, we never turned up for far too many games