Tigers want to lock up Sheens before rivals come knocking

@Cultured Bogan said:
@Chris said:
@Balmain Bug said:
Dudes ! Chill pills All round !! All I'm saying is the bloke can't coach . Settle dudes, settle.

Builds a team from nothing in 2002 and wins a comp 3 years later. Not bad for a bloke who cant coach.

+1.

Interesting how everyone notes his time at the cowboys also as a failure. Has anyone since Sheens had any success with them? They have made a qualifying final and a grand final and got pipped at the post by our Sheens-led Tigers. Hurst/Murray/Millward/Henry have all done slim to bugger all also and that is with the worlds best halfback in the side (not to mention players like Paul Bowman, Josh Hannay, Matt Bowen, LOD, Ty Williams, Matt Sing and Carl Webb in his heyday…) which Sheens didn't have at his disposal. Not to mention the club was run like a brothel in its early years (much like the us,) and Sheens was ultimately the scapegoat for the clubs failings off the field just as much as on it...
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+2

A brilliant statement.

A long term coach secures a long term future. We already are showing signs of success, and locking up sheens long term on big money, will SAVE money down the track trying to re-sign quality homemade players, as has been documented, want to stay loyal to Sheens.

Lock him up ala John Cartwright. Let him write his own cheque. This isn't Crazy Brian Smith we are dealing with here. This is the Holden to Wayne Benetts Ford….
 
Sheens can certainly coach.

The best way I can sum up my problems with him are to campare him to Kevin Sheedy in the Boggerball. Both excellent coaches who revolutionised aspects of the code they coached. But both got a little full of themselves in their latter careers in terms of coaching and kept trying to revolutionise the game even when they lack the cattle to do it and it is to the detriment of the side they are coaching whilst failing to recognise the fundamental changes in the way the game is played. It is easy to do this when you have a virtually guaranteed tenure

We had our one run at glory in 2005 and made the most of it but interpretations changed almost immediatley because of the fact that only one or two sides in the comp could ever succeed at that style.

It looks like Sheens turned a corner last year, playing a less imposed, more restrained hand with the side. I really think the Longmuir debarcle and the appointment of Humphries as CEO snapped him out of his run of baffling decisions because his job was over if he didn't succeed in 2010
 
bug i like Ryan and rate him about the same as daniela and his obvious enthusiasim for the game gets him across the line in front of daniela. Mate i just cant understand your hatred of Sheens. if he had not come along when he did we would probably still be the rabble of a club we were when he took over.
 
Excellent, excellent statements from Cultured Bogan, Underdog and Smeg! Can the term "not made the semis in 15 years" please die now???
 
CB, I think you were a little hard on Murray! He had them quite strong for a few seasons there just like he did at the Chooks before they shafted him! "Coach Sheens" probably helped by securing the kids in the lower grades ready for Murray to take over. I don't think Murray got the respect he deserved - the man can obviously coach.

Smeg I would put Sheens ahead of Sheedy, as the latter had a team of champions for about 5 seasons. Makes it a lot easier. Sheens took over a basket case of a club and was the third string choice. But he wasn't offended, he won the job, rolled his sleeves up and turned us into a competitive club. Would like another premiership - for him and me!!
 
ONE of the biggest pieces of the NRL coaching jigsaw puzzle looks set to fall into place with Tim Sheens close to finalising a new two-year deal with the Tigers.
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The Sunday Telegraph has been told the Test coach is a "done deal" at the Tigers with only the terms of his new contract to be decided.
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Sheens has been linked with a number of clubs, including the Rabbitohs, and his signature will take one of the game's biggest coaching names off the market.
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"We are talking to Tim and we would like him to continue as head coach," said Wests Tigers boss Stephen Humphries.
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"We are trying to finalise discussions and that is where we are at. There is not much more I can add until it is done."
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The Sunday Telegraph can also reveal Wigan coach Michael Maguire has been sounded out by Brisbane as a potential long-term replacement for sacked coach Ivan Henjak.
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The Broncos' first target is Wayne Bennett but with Souths still heavily in the hunt, the club has expressed interest in Maguire as a back-up plan.
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Bennett is odds on with bookmakers to return to Brisbane next year but the Broncos' interest in the Dragons coach won't deter the Rabbitohs from pursuing him.
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Sources close to Bennett are adamant the master coach is keeping his options open and is being pursued by four clubs: the Dragons, Rabbitohs, Broncos and Cowboys.
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The challenge of breaking Souths' 40-year premiership drought and taking another foundation team to the crown appeals to Bennett.
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Sheens was considered by Souths as a back-up plan to Bennett but the Rabbitohs will have to look elsewhere now the Test coach is set to ink a new deal with Wests.
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"We haven't put a time frame on it," said Humphries.
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"I think the main thing is getting the deal done. The timing is not that important. We just have to make sure both parties are comfortable with the deal."
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Wests Tigers, meanwhile, enter the new season as second favourites to claim the title at $7, just behind St George Illawarra at $6.

Telecrap I know…but Sheens aint moving Bug... :crazy
 
Ok. I secretly love him. The only reason why I used to dislike the bloke is because he was serving up the same rubbish month after month, year after year and would not listen to common sense. Ofcourse the players he has picked week in week out for years love him. Ask the players he hasnt picked if they love him.
He also doesn't give a stuff about Wests. That's why I used to not like him.
But I like him now. If that's what everyone wants.
 
@Balmain Bug said:
Ok. I secretly love him. The only reason why I used to dislike the bloke is because he was serving up the same rubbish month after month, year after year and would not listen to common sense. Ofcourse the players he has picked week in week out for years love him. Ask the players he hasnt picked if they love him.
He also doesn't give a stuff about Wests. That's why I used to not like him.
But I like him now. If that's what everyone wants.
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Completely agree! I mean just look at the players he didn't pick! How can he justify picking blokes like Lawrence and Ayshford ahead of Prichard for all those years! Or Moltzen over Gallant?! Marshall over Hereotukutuku?! Farah over Corby?! Ellis over Davis?!

I mean clearly the bloke is a bumbling fool!
 
@matty119 said:
@Balmain Bug said:
Ok. I secretly love him. The only reason why I used to dislike the bloke is because he was serving up the same rubbish month after month, year after year and would not listen to common sense. Ofcourse the players he has picked week in week out for years love him. Ask the players he hasnt picked if they love him.
He also doesn't give a stuff about Wests. That's why I used to not like him.
But I like him now. If that's what everyone wants.

Completely agree! I mean just look at the players he didn't pick! How can he justify picking blokes like Lawrence and Ayshford ahead of Prichard for all those years! Or Moltzen over Gallant?! Marshall over Hereotukutuku?! Farah over Corby?! Ellis over Davis?!

I mean clearly the bloke is a bumbling fool!
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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: GOLD!!!!
 
I would be signing him for 2 years with option for extra year a lot of people gave him a hard time about 2006 to 2009 but the game changed a lot so that mobility was not key again but controlling ruck \wrestle was key And we did not have size or experience to handle that . We lost some big names Prince ,Richards Laffranchi etc and had massive injury issues also Now he has players to do the job and got us to 1 win from a grand final which we would have won if we had made he has earned at least 2 more years No good performances in next 2 years might change things . and before you replace him who do we get Is there any better options on the table to replace him??? I don't think so personally
 
@matty119 said:
@Balmain Bug said:
Ok. I secretly love him. The only reason why I used to dislike the bloke is because he was serving up the same rubbish month after month, year after year and would not listen to common sense. Ofcourse the players he has picked week in week out for years love him. Ask the players he hasnt picked if they love him.
He also doesn't give a stuff about Wests. That's why I used to not like him.
But I like him now. If that's what everyone wants.

Completely agree! I mean just look at the players he didn't pick! How can he justify picking blokes like Lawrence and Ayshford ahead of Prichard for all those years! Or Moltzen over Gallant?! Marshall over Hereotukutuku?! Farah over Corby?! Ellis over Davis?!

I mean clearly the bloke is a bumbling fool!
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John Morris at halfback for 3 years ??? BUMBLING FOOL !!!
 
@Balmain Bug said:
@matty119 said:
@Balmain Bug said:
Ok. I secretly love him. The only reason why I used to dislike the bloke is because he was serving up the same rubbish month after month, year after year and would not listen to common sense. Ofcourse the players he has picked week in week out for years love him. Ask the players he hasnt picked if they love him.
He also doesn't give a stuff about Wests. That's why I used to not like him.
But I like him now. If that's what everyone wants.

Completely agree! I mean just look at the players he didn't pick! How can he justify picking blokes like Lawrence and Ayshford ahead of Prichard for all those years! Or Moltzen over Gallant?! Marshall over Hereotukutuku?! Farah over Corby?! Ellis over Davis?!

I mean clearly the bloke is a bumbling fool!

John Morris at halfback for 3 years ??? BUMBLING FOOL !!!
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MOLTZEN at fullback?? BUMBLING FOOL.!!!
 
@tomcat said:
@Balmain Bug said:
@matty119 said:
@Balmain Bug said:
Ok. I secretly love him. The only reason why I used to dislike the bloke is because he was serving up the same rubbish month after month, year after year and would not listen to common sense. Ofcourse the players he has picked week in week out for years love him. Ask the players he hasnt picked if they love him.
He also doesn't give a stuff about Wests. That's why I used to not like him.
But I like him now. If that's what everyone wants.

Completely agree! I mean just look at the players he didn't pick! How can he justify picking blokes like Lawrence and Ayshford ahead of Prichard for all those years! Or Moltzen over Gallant?! Marshall over Hereotukutuku?! Farah over Corby?! Ellis over Davis?!

I mean clearly the bloke is a bumbling fool!

John Morris at halfback for 3 years ??? BUMBLING FOOL !!!

MOLTZEN at fullback?? BUMBLING FOOL.!!!
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FITZHENERY on the bench?? BUMBLING FOOL !!!
 
1 of the biggest disgraces was how Matthew Head was treated…when he signed he hadn't been injured in 12 months n Sheens refuzed 2 start him coz he said he wasn't ready...then when he came back he was MOM...i remember he carved the Rabbatohs up the SCG n Sheens refuzed 2 give him any credit instead critisized 4 his poor defence...Sheens is an arrogant pig n he has his little pets thats a fact...Ryan O'Hara is another player who was shafted
 
i can name quite a few players who have been shafted over the yrs 4 not being 1 of Sheens faves….Head,O'Hara,Gallant n even a player like John Wilson...if Fitzy was a better player than Wilson then i'll eat my hat
 
Guess what this is since 1997
Brian SMITH 54%
Fonz SHEENS 37%
Wayne BENNETT 66%
Steve FOLKES 56%
Matthew ELLIOTT 44%
Des HASLER 58%
Kevin MOORE 55%
Neil HENRY 45%
Ricky STUART 55%
Jason TAYLOR 63%

Yep, NRL win ratio. Read it and weep.
 
Or maybe this looks better bearing in mind that there is not one coach in the history of the NRL who as lasted more than 2 years with a worse record than SHEENS.

Wayne BENNETT 66%
Jason TAYLOR 63%
Des HASLER 58%
Steve FOLKES 56%
Ricky STUART 55%
Daniel Anderson 55%
Kevin MOORE 55%
Brian SMITH 54%
Michael Hagan 53%
Graham Murray 51%
John Cartwright 49%
Neil HENRY 45%
Matthew ELLIOTT 44%

Fonz SHEENS 37%

:roll
 
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