Tim Simona - Deregistered

[Doc_Tiger]

Cant believe how many people hope that the club helps him through this "tough period".
He'll be lucky if joe public doesnt rearrange his face for him.

He pretended to raise money for camp quality…CAMP QUALITY!! Then pocketed it and spent it betting his opponent would score and his team would lose. Just outrageous that some are concerned with his welfare.

I doubt you'd be signing that tune if, upon realising how much he's f'ed up his life, he goes and tops himself.

No one is saying that what he did is any in any way excusable.

I think it's fair to say that if he needs professional help, then he should seek it himself. It's not the clubs problem that he's chosen to do what he's done. Maybe he could use all the cash he made in his business dealings.
Im sure he needs help and I hope he gets it, but I can't see why the club that gave him everything should give him more when he completely shafted them.

I'd bet he's probably close to being broke

You think? That's not possible surely.

 

[Guest]

Any addict will do almost anything to feed their habit. That is the definition of addiction.
For those of us who are reasonably mentally healthy, Simona's actions seem unforgivable. But aqddiction is as much a disease as cancer or HIV Aids and needs to be treated. Unfortunately, unless the addict wants to be treated, nothing can be done for them.

I hope Tim now voluntarily seeks help for this disease. And I hope both the Wests Tigers and the NRL make sure he gets it. He's going to need a lot of help to beat this. I guess he's about to find out who his real friends are. I wish him well. It'll be a long hard road.

I understand addiction is a disease but 100% disagree that the NRL nor the Wests Tigers should spend 1 second or 1 cent helping him. Not their problem. He has damaged both organisations. The Tigers should have spat in his face and the NRL should have banned him for life.

His career is finished Stryker and I would suggest Simona's financial plight is problematic enough for him to deal with rather than the Tigers putting the boot in any further.

 

[Guest]

I doubt you'd be signing that tune if, upon realising how much he's f'ed up his life, he goes and tops himself.

No one is saying that what he did is any in any way excusable.

I think it's fair to say that if he needs professional help, then he should seek it himself. It's not the clubs problem that he's chosen to do what he's done. Maybe he could use all the cash he made in his business dealings.
Im sure he needs help and I hope he gets it, but I can't see why the club that gave him everything should give him more when he completely shafted them.

I'd bet he's probably close to being broke

You think? That's not possible surely.

He's in this situation because of gambling debts. Ink isn't far from the mark.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

I think it's fair to say that if he needs professional help, then he should seek it himself. It's not the clubs problem that he's chosen to do what he's done. Maybe he could use all the cash he made in his business dealings.
Im sure he needs help and I hope he gets it, but I can't see why the club that gave him everything should give him more when he completely shafted them.

I'd bet he's probably close to being broke

You think? That's not possible surely.

He's in this situation because of gambling debts. Ink isn't far from the mark.

Right - got ya. Then there's an argument that the NRL should be all over his treatment given their prolific betting promotions. And the club I guess as well if we're now affiliated with betting.

 

[Flippedy]

Cant believe how many people hope that the club helps him through this "tough period".
He'll be lucky if joe public doesnt rearrange his face for him.

He pretended to raise money for camp quality…CAMP QUALITY!! Then pocketed it and spent it betting his opponent would score and his team would lose. Just outrageous that some are concerned with his welfare.

I doubt you'd be signing that tune if, upon realising how much he's f'ed up his life, he goes and tops himself.

No one is saying that what he did is any in any way excusable.

I think it's fair to say that if he needs professional help, then he should seek it himself. It's not the clubs problem that he's chosen to do what he's done. Maybe he could use all the cash he made in his business dealings.
Im sure he needs help and I hope he gets it, but I can't see why the club that gave him everything should give him more when he completely shafted them.

Yeah I agree, it shouldn't be the club's responsibility, especially under the circumstances. Although I know clubs always seem to think they have a duty to sort these things out for some reason. However, he is not in the club's care anymore, so hopefully Tim has some supportive family and friends around him, who can help him out and set him back on track. He's gonna need it, when the enormity of what he has done and the consequences of it on his life sinks in, this will shatter him.

 

[Flippedy]

Cant believe how many people hope that the club helps him through this "tough period".
He'll be lucky if joe public doesnt rearrange his face for him.

He pretended to raise money for camp quality…CAMP QUALITY!! Then pocketed it and spent it betting his opponent would score and his team would lose. Just outrageous that some are concerned with his welfare.

I doubt you'd be signing that tune if, upon realising how much he's f'ed up his life, he goes and tops himself.

No one is saying that what he did is any in any way excusable.

I agree 100% with Stryker.
Would I feel upset if Simona "topped himself"?
No I wouldn't. Why should I?

Harsh, I don't think it's great when anyone takes their life do you? None of us will ever know the extent of the pain a person is feeling that drives them to that point. I care a great deal, because it's a pointless waste of human life and I respect my fellow humans. We all stuff up sometimes or perhaps some of you are just perfect all the time.

 

[jadtiger]

He has made massive mistakes and deserves his punishment but i hope he gets the support he desperately needs.As others have said i doubt if he has much money addicts never do, casting him off to fend for himself will probably have a tragic outcome and not one i think anyone would be comfortable with.
He needs support and professional help and as disgusted as i am with his actions i would be equally as disgusted if the NRL and WT dont give it to him.Yes i am probably "soft" in some peoples eyes but i dont believe in casting someone aside because they are of "weak" character

 

[southerntiger]

what a slime, what was he on? we can throw that on the big 4 + 1 pile

He was off contract. His salary is insignificant to retaining them.

Yes but it gives cap space for this year meaning payments for next year can be brought forward. May be relatively insignificant but it was the last year of a three year deal where he was in demand at the time he signed. His salary will make some difference.

 

[240z]

Cant believe how many people hope that the club helps him through this "tough period".
He'll be lucky if joe public doesnt rearrange his face for him.

He pretended to raise money for camp quality…CAMP QUALITY!! Then pocketed it and spent it betting his opponent would score and his team would lose. Just outrageous that some are concerned with his welfare.

I doubt you'd be signing that tune if, upon realising how much he's f'ed up his life, he goes and tops himself.

No one is saying that what he did is any in any way excusable.

I agree 100% with Stryker.
Would I feel upset if Simona "topped himself"?
No I wouldn't. Why should I?

Harsh, I don't think it's great when anyone takes their life do you? None of us will ever know the extent of the pain a person is feeling that drives them to that point. I care a great deal, because it's a pointless waste of human life and I respect my fellow humans. We all stuff up sometimes or perhaps some of you are just perfect all the time.

Agreed Flippedy, nothing is worth loosing a life. We all are very solid supporters of the WT's and Tim did us wrong but it still never worth a life. cqtiger take a good long look in the mirror and tell yourself it is only a game after all.

 

[Nelson]

Any addict will do almost anything to feed their habit. That is the definition of addiction.
For those of us who are reasonably mentally healthy, Simona's actions seem unforgivable. But aqddiction is as much a disease as cancer or HIV Aids and needs to be treated. Unfortunately, unless the addict wants to be treated, nothing can be done for them.

I hope Tim now voluntarily seeks help for this disease. And I hope both the Wests Tigers and the NRL make sure he gets it. He's going to need a lot of help to beat this. I guess he's about to find out who his real friends are. I wish him well. It'll be a long hard road.

I understand addiction is a disease but 100% disagree that the NRL nor the Wests Tigers should spend 1 second or 1 cent helping him. Not their problem. He has damaged both organisations. The Tigers should have spat in his face and the NRL should have banned him for life.

Yeah well sometimes you've gotta take the higher ground in these things. He was probably already in a pretty desperate place if he was prepared to do such disgraceful things as he's done. Getting caught and copping his punishment is unlikely to improve his situation. Nor is the public vilification he's going to cop. Nor is the knowledge that his pathetic actions have probably brought great shame on his family. When that many things come crashing down on a damaged individual all at once then bad things can happen. The club should help him because it's the decent thing that we do in society, even when people have spat in our faces.

I understand your anger towards him and you probably don't agree with anything I've said above any more than you agreed with yeti. Think about it from a football perspective though and if he goes and does something stupid and selfish and tops himself because he's too cowardly to face up to his actions what sort of impact do you think that's going to have on guys that have seen him at training every day for the last 5 years? Guys that have called him a mate? I've lost workmates to suicide and it is seriously damaging to those around them.

 

[southerntiger]

Great post Nelson.

Decency. When they go low, we go high.

 

[greatodensraven]

Any addict will do almost anything to feed their habit. That is the definition of addiction.
For those of us who are reasonably mentally healthy, Simona's actions seem unforgivable. But aqddiction is as much a disease as cancer or HIV Aids and needs to be treated. Unfortunately, unless the addict wants to be treated, nothing can be done for them.

I hope Tim now voluntarily seeks help for this disease. And I hope both the Wests Tigers and the NRL make sure he gets it. He's going to need a lot of help to beat this. I guess he's about to find out who his real friends are. I wish him well. It'll be a long hard road.

I understand addiction is a disease but 100% disagree that the NRL nor the Wests Tigers should spend 1 second or 1 cent helping him. Not their problem. He has damaged both organisations. The Tigers should have spat in his face and the NRL should have banned him for life.

Yeah well sometimes you've gotta take the higher ground in these things. He was probably already in a pretty desperate place if he was prepared to do such disgraceful things as he's done. Getting caught and copping his punishment is unlikely to improve his situation. Nor is the public vilification he's going to cop. Nor is the knowledge that his pathetic actions have probably brought great shame on his family. When that many things come crashing down on a damaged individual all at once then bad things can happen. The club should help him because it's the decent thing that we do in society, even when people have spat in our faces.

I understand your anger towards him and you probably don't agree with anything I've said above any more than you agreed with yeti. Think about it from a football perspective though and if he goes and does something stupid and selfish and tops himself because he's too cowardly to face up to his actions what sort of impact do you think that's going to have on guys that have seen him at training every day for the last 5 years? Guys that have called him a mate? I've lost workmates to suicide and it is seriously damaging to those around them.

This.

I don't want to see him in our colours ever again but some things are bigger than footy. Re. his ripping off charities though, doesn't get much lower.

 

[Defiant]

I'm hoping his betting record leaks (perhaps the NRL could release it. Unlikely.).

It would be good to match them to the video of the relevant games.

 

[Newtown]

Any addict will do almost anything to feed their habit. That is the definition of addiction.
For those of us who are reasonably mentally healthy, Simona's actions seem unforgivable. But aqddiction is as much a disease as cancer or HIV Aids and needs to be treated. Unfortunately, unless the addict wants to be treated, nothing can be done for them.

I hope Tim now voluntarily seeks help for this disease. And I hope both the Wests Tigers and the NRL make sure he gets it. He's going to need a lot of help to beat this. I guess he's about to find out who his real friends are. I wish him well. It'll be a long hard road.

I understand addiction is a disease but 100% disagree that the NRL nor the Wests Tigers should spend 1 second or 1 cent helping him. Not their problem. He has damaged both organisations. The Tigers should have spat in his face and the NRL should have banned him for life.

His career is finished Stryker and I would suggest Simona's financial plight is problematic enough for him to deal with rather than the Tigers putting the boot in any further.

Gambling addiction has broken up thousands of families. The fact is however that many of these gambling addicts can and have turned their lives around with the help of caring humans. Simona still deserves a chance to do this and not "top himself" as has so "compassionately" been expressed.

 

[Eddie]

I might be in the minority however I just hope he is ok.His career is over and that is enough punishment.

The things he was doing speak of a desperate man with some mental issues and addictions.

Obviously it's shocking from a Tigers point of view and there is a part of me that is angry. However I wish no harm on him I hope his life improves from this.

 

[eyewonder]

gambling,smokiing and drinking provides a lot of income for governments.

and then listen and watch advertising campajgns which deride these above ills of society.

go figure.

 

[rex2ce]

I don't condone what he has done , but don't want to read his obituary in the paper, I hope the club is big enough t assist him through this, seriously , he is sick

 

[innsaneink]

“It will continue to be our responsibility to ensure that Simona receives the welfare support that he needs,” he said.

 

[ryanda01]

The NRL are also doing welfare stuff I thought I heard Greenberg say in the presser.

 

[TCL]

Such a shame. But, He made his bed…...

I hope he gets help and support by family and good friends and maybe from the NRL or Player welfare for a period of time