I don't have an opinion on Cleary. Thought he didnt do much with the best junior system in the country but I like his professionalism and that he seems like a decent bloke.
His record is surprisingly nothing to write home about:
**Years Team Gms W D L W%**
2006–11 New Zealand Warriors 137 68 3 66 50
2012–15 Penrith Panthers 112 53 0 59 47
**Total 249 121 3 125 49**
Given the squads he had, this is not as good as I would have expected given the hype on here. I had assumed that he had at least a 50% record at the Panthers given he is treated as the next messiah.
By contrast, the record of the coach you all hate:
**Years Team Gms W D L W%**
2006 Parramatta Eels 16 10 0 6 63
2007–09 South Sydney 73 31 1 41 42
2015–17 Wests Tigers 51 20 0 31 39
**Total 140 61 1 78 44**
Given the squads he had at all three clubs compared to Ivan the Great, the record is just as good, if not better.
And the coach you all think is the devil
**Years Team Gms W D L W%**
1984–87 Penrith Panthers 98 43 4 51 44
1988–96 Canberra Raiders 219 148 3 68 68
1997–01 North Queensland Cowboys 103 27 4 72 26
**2003–12 Wests Tigers 249 122 0 127 49**
2016– Hull Kingston Rovers 5 5 0 0 100
**Total 674 345 11 318 51**
Bring back Tim. So, Sheens' record at Wests Tigers with a patchwork squad over a longer period is better than Ivan's record at Penrith, with the best juniors in the country.
I think we have been sold a pup.
Cleary has been one of only 2 coaches who got the warriors playing good consistent footy, he took Penrith to a grand final prelim after totally rebuilding the club after Lewis, Jennings and co were shown the door. His record took a hit with the massive injury toll the panthers got there in his last year.
And you if you think JT is a better coach I will not bother replying anymore, JT has never had any man management skill, never been able as a player or coach to avoid trouble where ever he went, he is not cut out for a head coach job, seriously he can talk it up, but can't back it up.