Wests Tigers star Robbie Farah dropped from NRL to reserve grade

[PrattenParkMagpie]

I don't talk about him every day **I have laid off him for a while now**, but after yesterday no more laying off him.
He said every player was under pressure to hold their spot, not just Robbie, he has said this a few times this year, that is an out and out lie, there are players who get picked every week who shouldn't, only Farah, Sirro and JAC are these rules applied.

You posted these two comments in the team thread on Tuesday…

Spot on, Aloiai has been out of form for a while now, Rankin the mind boggles why you would have a slow half on the wing.
And the accountability thing was obviously just for a few players not everyone.

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It is amazing isn't it, you can throw in Aloiai as well as players who should be dropped, accountability, **JT is full of it.**

Both comments are having a go at Taylor, so are you a liar?

 

[Bones]

The proof will be in the pudding.

The coach has every right to pick his team as he sees fit. Wether you hate Jason Taylor or Robbie Farah is insignificant. If we make the top 8 from here Taylor has done a brilliant job. If we fall to bits he should be held accountable.

 

[tigerman80]

I cant believe the Farah haters have actually convinced themselves that the imposter can coach. A self claimed defensive coach, yet we have the second worst defensive record. We have a right hand side who let in 2 to 3 tries every game and pretty much cost us games, yet they have shown no improvement and have had no accountability. If the whole team was accountable and all players who didnt deserve to be there were dropped then you would not have the uproar that is going on.

Oh, Tigerman. I know this is a confusing and challenging time. When THE IMPOSTER sacks Robbie, it makes you feel like your world has turned upside down. Chin up, old fella.

(FWIW, I think Farah should have remained on the bench, but this is the biggest emotional explosion we've seen on the forum for years.)

Hello Masterton , how are you tonight lol. See im not a Farah supporter at all. I want to win, and i want to make semis. I will be at the game on Sunday and cheering loudly for the tigers to win. Im still to find someone that can say that the team is stronger with Farah not there. If Liddle could play, if Ballin could play, then lets go with it. But Halatau really come on, and you happy to move Elijah taylor there. I actually applauded the imposter for how he has used elijah taylor as a link between our backs. I then applauded him having farah on the bench. We won 2 games with that policy. So why change something that works. I was even happy for the imposter to stick to his word at the stsrt of the year and not play Farah at all. But round 20, with us getting on a role. Can you honestly say this is not destabilising, and not bad timing.

 

[Tigerdave]

ugh the Wests Tigers facebook page…............"supporters" on their saying "Go Dragons"............seriously any so-called supporter saying that needs to go support someone else.

There's other players in our team besides Robbie and "supporters" want to see them beaten......

I think there's a lot of people who support the team, Not the coach and Admin.After all the stuff ups that this club is responsible for over the years, it's a perfectly reasonable attitude IMO.

For mine, supporting the team means not going for the opposition and realising that we have more than 1 player to support.

The Tigers Facebook page is chockers full of emotional illogical fools, who's blind hatred of the coach override any sensible or reasoned arguments.

 

[innsaneink]

I don't talk about him every day **I have laid off him for a while now**, but after yesterday no more laying off him.
He said every player was under pressure to hold their spot, not just Robbie, he has said this a few times this year, that is an out and out lie, there are players who get picked every week who shouldn't, only Farah, Sirro and JAC are these rules applied.

You posted these two comments in the team thread on Tuesday…

Spot on, Aloiai has been out of form for a while now, Rankin the mind boggles why you would have a slow half on the wing.
And the accountability thing was obviously just for a few players not everyone.

\

It is amazing isn't it, you can throw in Aloiai as well as players who should be dropped, accountability, **JT is full of it.**

Both comments are having a go at Taylor, so are you a liar?

Oh dear oh deary me…LOL :laughing:

See...I was right:-

Theres lies, and there are lies….and then theres opinioons
The world revolves around BS...**_everyone does it every day_**.

 

[WestsSupporter]

Guys just get over your sentimentality. Robbie Farah is a has-been with a massive ego. The soon he goes, the better it'll be for all involved.

 

[851]

I don't talk about him every day **I have laid off him for a while now**, but after yesterday no more laying off him.
He said every player was under pressure to hold their spot, not just Robbie, he has said this a few times this year, that is an out and out lie, there are players who get picked every week who shouldn't, only Farah, Sirro and JAC are these rules applied.

You posted these two comments in the team thread on Tuesday…

Spot on, Aloiai has been out of form for a while now, Rankin the mind boggles why you would have a slow half on the wing.
And the accountability thing was obviously just for a few players not everyone.

\

It is amazing isn't it, you can throw in Aloiai as well as players who should be dropped, accountability, **JT is full of it.**

Both comments are having a go at Taylor, so are you a liar?

Read all my posts, I said I have been laying off him lately, but after yesterday the gloves are off, so no I am not a liar, I just hate the coach and what he is doing to the club.

 

[851]

I don't talk about him every day **I have laid off him for a while now**, but after yesterday no more laying off him.
He said every player was under pressure to hold their spot, not just Robbie, he has said this a few times this year, that is an out and out lie, there are players who get picked every week who shouldn't, only Farah, Sirro and JAC are these rules applied.

You posted these two comments in the team thread on Tuesday…

Spot on, Aloiai has been out of form for a while now, Rankin the mind boggles why you would have a slow half on the wing.
And the accountability thing was obviously just for a few players not everyone.

\

It is amazing isn't it, you can throw in Aloiai as well as players who should be dropped, accountability, **JT is full of it.**

Both comments are having a go at Taylor, so are you a liar?

Oh dear oh deary me…LOL :laughing:

See...I was right:-

Theres lies, and there are lies….and then theres opinioons
The world revolves around BS...**_everyone does it every day_**.

How are you right, your ego is as big as JT's and your opinion is not always right either, I said I have been laying off him, but after yesterday, all bets are off,

 

[Masterton]

If Liddle could play, if Ballin could play, then lets go with it. But Halatau really come on, and you happy to move Elijah taylor there. I actually applauded the imposter for how he has used elijah taylor as a link between our backs. I then applauded him having farah on the bench. We won 2 games with that policy. So why change something that works. I was even happy for the imposter to stick to his word at the stsrt of the year and not play Farah at all. But round 20, with us getting on a role. Can you honestly say this is not destabilising, and not bad timing.

It's a fair point. I'd be a lot less critical of the decision to drop Farahr if I had any faith in his replacement. I don't want ET wasted at hooker.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I have not read the whole thread but the guy has scored a try in each of last two games, good tries. Yes they were lone efforts and he could have been stopped but he deserves to have confidence because as Benji stated he is the best guy for reading play up the middle. Giving the opposition the worry of us scoring up middle and on wings surely is a good thing. So what if the halves receive the ball a few times less each game and they are less defenders out wide as well.

 

[Black_n_White]

I cant believe the Farah haters have actually convinced themselves that the imposter can coach. A self claimed defensive coach, yet we have the second worst defensive record. We have a right hand side who let in 2 to 3 tries every game and pretty much cost us games, yet they have shown no improvement and have had no accountability. If the whole team was accountable and all players who didnt deserve to be there were dropped then you would not have the uproar that is going on.

Oh, Tigerman. I know this is a confusing and challenging time. When THE IMPOSTER sacks Robbie, it makes you feel like your world has turned upside down. Chin up, old fella.

(FWIW, I think Farah should have remained on the bench, but this is the biggest emotional explosion we've seen on the forum for years.)

Hello Masterton , how are you tonight lol. See im not a Farah supporter at all. I want to win, and i want to make semis. I will be at the game on Sunday and cheering loudly for the tigers to win. Im still to find someone that can say that the team is stronger with Farah not there. If Liddle could play, if Ballin could play, then lets go with it. But Halatau really come on, and you happy to move Elijah taylor there. I actually applauded the imposter for how he has used elijah taylor as a link between our backs. I then applauded him having farah on the bench. We won 2 games with that policy. So why change something that works. I was even happy for the imposter to stick to his word at the stsrt of the year and not play Farah at all. But round 20, with us getting on a role. Can you honestly say this is not destabilising, and not bad timing.

I dont think this is as black or white situation as many on here are making it. No one, and I mean no one thinks Robbie is a bad player, nor questions he gives his all… What the crux of the matter is, is that he can be stifling with his style of play, which effects the teams performance.

His first game of the season was one of his best, his first game off the bench around origin was also another of his better games. Im not talking about personal glory as in he scored try's made 100 tackles, no, he distributed wide of the ruck which gave the forwards more rooms, worked through the halves giving them more opportunities and time, and also picked his opportunities to have a crack well. He chimed into the team, he complimented our style of play. As the weeks rolled on he slowly reverted to his older much skinnier style of service. I got bashed for calling it seasons ago, I dare say people will cyber bash me for saying it again.

I think this weeks dropping especially against the Dragons is more an exercise in trying to rack up some points against the dragons to fix our for and against, rather than forcing Robbie out, possibly with a side serving of being able to turn the screws on Robbie a bit in regards to a correction back to where he was at when he was complementing the rest of the team. As good as Woods is in supercoach, he is a liability as a massive momentum killer, the guy couldnt buy a quick PTB even on his salary, so getting into a skinny pigs game isnt our best option, Robbies bread and butter

So while we wont be playing our best hooker, we will be putting on hookers who will put more ball through the halves hands because they wont back themselves as often to steer the ship.... and when we have played through the halves we look good we really do. I dont think Brooks goes missing in games, I dont think he is assertive enough. Many have said the halves play better without the other, its not true. Im almost certain they play better because when the other is there they get more ball, can choose their opportunites better. The games where we played through the halves, they flow better.... When Robbie ball is being played, he feeds the pigs for 4 tackles then the halves get touches on the last 2 tackles. once each per set is 20 touches a game each, half of them clearing kicks. Other halves get as many touches as both ours get in Robbie ball games, in the first half alone.

Im not bashing Robbie... I doubt he even realises he does it

 

[gallagher]

I have not read the whole thread but the guy has scored a try in each of last two games, good tries. Yes they were lone efforts and he could have been stopped but he deserves to have confidence because as Benji stated he is the best guy for reading play up the middle. Giving the opposition the worry of us scoring up middle and on wings surely is a good thing. So what if the halves receive the ball a few times less each game and they are less defenders out wide as well.

Lone efforts? He was put into open space from offloads from Sue and Ava.

 

[lathami]

For the stat lovers in us all….

Stats Insider: The biggest winner of Jason Taylor’s call to dump Tigers star Robbie Farah

by BEN GLOVER WITH FOX SPORTS LAB

JASON Taylor was right. Too many cooks were spoiling the broth and Fox Sports Lab has identified the cook who benefits most when Robbie Farah doesn’t play.

Farah has made his name out of his creativity as much as his toughness, so when he’s on the park the Wests Tigers effectively have four playmakers — Farah, Luke Brooks, Mitchell Moses and James Tedesco.

With a hooker that plays a more passive role — a strong defensive presence in the middle but whose main function in attack is to shovel the ball out of dummy half to provide the halves with early ball — that number shrinks to three.

Logically that should make Brooks and Moses in particular more influential, without necessarily making the Tigers’ attack more effective.

So, what do the numbers say?

So far in 2016 the Tigers have played nine games with Farah involved and eight games without him.

When the Origin hooker suits up on game day, the Tigers are winning just 33 per cent of their games, with three wins and six losses for the season.

When he’s in the stands the Tigers get over the line in a much improved 50 per cent of their games — winning four and losing four.

The reason for those results is clear — their attack functions better.

In the games without Farah, the Tigers score an average of 23.4 points per game, almost a converted try better than their 18.2 points per game when Farah is out there.

You’d better believe Taylor was well aware of that when he explained the reason for the former skipper’s axing on Thursday morning with this: “The cohesion is something I’ve been concerned about and looking at for a while but it’s only been on the back of the way the team has played the last seven games, where we’ve got to the point where I believe we’re better with Robbie not in the team.”

To top things off their defence is marginally better without Farah too, with the side leaking an average of one point per game less when he doesn’t play.

THE BIGGEST WINNER

So far this season it’s quite clearly been Moses who has felt most suffocated by the influence of Farah with his performances going to another level when the Tigers field someone else in the No.9 jersey.

While Brooks has had fairly even contributions across the season, regardless of whether or not Farah plays, Moses touches the ball significantly more and creates far more havoc when his senior teammate is absent.

His average possessions rise from 37.8 per game to 42.9 per game, he’s made more than double the linebreak assists without Farah (an increase from two to five) and more than double the try assists (three with Farah, eight without him).

He also takes more responsibility with the boot, kicking more in the Tigers’ attacking zones, which has resulted in seven forced drop outs without Farah and just three with him.

Intriguingly Moses has made less line breaks and scored less tries without Farah by his side, which only strengthens the point that his game switches focus, taking the opportunity to play make for his side, not just run the ball.

THE VERDICT

There’s no doubt from a statistical point-of-view that Taylor has made the right call and Moses must be licking his lips at the prospect of finishing the season as one of his side’s most influential figures.

But what the numbers can’t describe is the mood at Concord, with the gravity of Taylor’s call sure to be causing shock waves throughout the player group.

A jolt like that can go one of two ways but if the response is positive and the Tigers put in a top performance on their way to a win over the Dragons, it could provide the impetus for a run to the finals that has seemed highly unlikely for the majority of this season.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/stats-insider-the-biggest-winner-of-jason-taylors-call-to-dump-tigers-star-robbie-farah/news-story/ee6cd440ba5f90fa3445ced498a68d05

Thank you, game set and match to JT, regardless of the result on Sunday.

Whatever!
Hardly a justification stats are subjective who u are playing, who's injured in the team, how long he plays for, etc, etc
Really do you call that endgame????
Stats, please…

 

[lathami]

Tigers have lost 100% of games with farah not playing in last 2 weeks! Wow there's a stat!!!!

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If it is seriously just what it is I have no issue, although I will be truly surprised as Taylor tried to put Farah in his place (so to speak,) in the past and had it knocked on the head. If it truly is ratified by the board now it does raise suspicion as to why they now back him.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I have not read the whole thread but the guy has scored a try in each of last two games, good tries. Yes they were lone efforts and he could have been stopped but he deserves to have confidence because as Benji stated he is the best guy for reading play up the middle. Giving the opposition the worry of us scoring up middle and on wings surely is a good thing. So what if the halves receive the ball a few times less each game and they are less defenders out wide as well.

Lone efforts? He was put into open space from offloads from Sue and Ava.

Well that is also good - fitting in with players around him, part of a team. Another attacking option to worry the opposition. And proving that if given half a chance he can take on a few defenders and still get over the line - he still has strength and sufficient speed (just).

 

[angry_ant]

@tigerman80

This is the same coach that kept Lovett in the centers instead of Lawrence and lost us the game.
You forgot that fact out

Also the same coach that has the squad on 7 wins this year, has the team performing better than Rabbits, Roosters and Sea Eagles despite a vastly inferior squad and training facilities etc. They have won 3 less games than the Broncs for crying out loud!

I am no JT Fan but the hysteria on here about this decision and his supposed lack of coaching skill is absurd. Think some people have forgotten or were not old enough to remember the Terry Lamb days…

The coach that has the same squad that is running behind the titans and the dragons. I would say they are over achieving and we are under achieving. Give it up already. The sooner he is gone the better. From now on he will only be referred to as THE IMPOSTER, i reckon everyone on here should only call him by that from now on. You can be THE IMPOSTERS PUPPET.

Guess these facts aren't as important as yours. It doesn't matter what you say or think because the coach has made the call. You though are more than welcome to go stroke Wobbies ego some more at Leichhardt this Saturday. I'm sure it'll be standing room only

 

[gallagher]

I have not read the whole thread but the guy has scored a try in each of last two games, good tries. Yes they were lone efforts and he could have been stopped but he deserves to have confidence because as Benji stated he is the best guy for reading play up the middle. Giving the opposition the worry of us scoring up middle and on wings surely is a good thing. So what if the halves receive the ball a few times less each game and they are less defenders out wide as well.

Lone efforts? He was put into open space from offloads from Sue and Ava.

Well that is also good - fitting in with players around him, part of a team. Another attacking option to worry the opposition. And proving that if given half a chance he can take on a few defenders and still get over the line - he still has strength and sufficient speed (just).

Finally you've said something sensible.

 

[lathami]

@tigerman80

This is the same coach that kept Lovett in the centers instead of Lawrence and lost us the game.
You forgot that fact out

Also the same coach that has the squad on 7 wins this year, has the team performing better than Rabbits, Roosters and Sea Eagles despite a vastly inferior squad and training facilities etc. They have won 3 less games than the Broncs for crying out loud!

I am no JT Fan but the hysteria on here about this decision and his supposed lack of coaching skill is absurd. Think some people have forgotten or were not old enough to remember the Terry Lamb days…

The coach that has the same squad that is running behind the titans and the dragons. I would say they are over achieving and we are under achieving. Give it up already. The sooner he is gone the better. From now on he will only be referred to as THE IMPOSTER, i reckon everyone on here should only call him by that from now on. You can be THE IMPOSTERS PUPPET.

Guess these facts aren't as important as yours. It doesn't matter what you say or think because the coach has made the call. You though are more than welcome to go stroke Wobbies ego some more at Leichhardt this Saturday. I'm sure it'll be standing room only

You are a very little man aren't u ant!
Ill be there…
Won't be at the scarecrow gathering on Sunday!

 

[Guest]

Also the same coach that has the squad on 7 wins this year, has the team performing better than Rabbits, Roosters and Sea Eagles despite a vastly inferior squad and training facilities etc. They have won 3 less games than the Broncs for crying out loud!

I am no JT Fan but the hysteria on here about this decision and his supposed lack of coaching skill is absurd. Think some people have forgotten or were not old enough to remember the Terry Lamb days…

The coach that has the same squad that is running behind the titans and the dragons. I would say they are over achieving and we are under achieving. Give it up already. The sooner he is gone the better. From now on he will only be referred to as THE IMPOSTER, i reckon everyone on here should only call him by that from now on. You can be THE IMPOSTERS PUPPET.

Guess these facts aren't as important as yours. It doesn't matter what you say or think because the coach has made the call. You though are more than welcome to go stroke Wobbies ego some more at Leichhardt this Saturday. I'm sure it'll be standing room only

You are a very little man aren't u ant!
Ill be there…
Won't be at the scarecrow gathering on Sunday!

Pull your head in lathami, or your time on this forum will come to an end.