OFFICIAL Wests Tigers Unite: Call to Arms

[AmericanHistoryX]

Thank you 🙏 hopefully we can play a part in helping the club get to the point where the rusted on foundation people can no longer hold us back.

Isn't this beautiful? Thanks Joel. Not spreading hate but promoting love. You too finnzo. As if anyone here on the forum has all the facts.

 

[jirskyr]

I'm sure this is an unintentional oversight, but Balmain only own 10% after it was gifted to them by Wests, following Wests paying off all of Balmain's debts.
Just in the interests of historical accuracy.

What a pathetic statement to make.

 

[jirskyr]

In their defence, the system has worked flawlessly. The club board up until the last 6 months has been stable for the last near 70 years.

It's allowed the club to grow and build their current premises (I think in the 1980's), then extend and build the car park in the 2010's....and have the capital to buy Campbelltowns shares in WTs in 2012, bailout Balmain to the tune of $8.5 million in 2016, and then a further $3.2m bailout in 2020/2021 (the Amalgamation).

The club routinely donates significant monies to local organisations directly or via the Club Grants system.

Have your own opinion of their ownership of Wests Tigers, but when you consider their financial performance at club level, the board has worked well, the club has grown and has thrived. Aside from the performance of a part owned football club, the board has performed well.

Not sure how that can be questioned.

No ...I'm not a member

Real question is whether the club would have done similarly fine without the debenture system.

Wests Campbelltown are doing well and they no longer have oversight from the Wests Ashfield debentures. Bulldogs Leagues club doing great and they don't have a debenture system at all.

But I don't think anyone here really cares too much who gets credit for Wests Ashfield making money off poker machines, the real question is what those Leagues Club people contribute to the running of the first grade football club, being a totally separate consideration and separate skillset required.

So perhaps yes the Wests Ashfield folks have done just fine managing a Registered Club for 70 years, but very much worse in whatever they've contributed to attempting to manage Wests Magpies and then Wests Tigers in that same period.

 

[jirskyr]

But for may years, the silly 2 year rolling chair from one side then the other.... It mostly just changed the strategic direction of the club as Balmain wanted to things their way, Wests wanted to do things their way.... Both were in contradiction and opposing views on strategy, so the club lurched from one direction to another.

Who was in charge 2005 and/or 2010-11 and can we have them back in charge please?

 

[Joel Helmes]

Real question is whether the club would have done similarly fine without the debenture system.

Wests Campbelltown are doing well and they no longer have oversight from the Wests Ashfield debentures. Bulldogs Leagues club doing great and they don't have a debenture system at all.

But I don't think anyone here really cares too much who gets credit for Wests Ashfield making money off poker machines, the real question is what those Leagues Club people contribute to the running of the first grade football club, being a totally separate consideration and separate skillset required.

So perhaps yes the Wests Ashfield folks have done just fine managing a Registered Club for 70 years, but very much worse in whatever they've contributed to attempting to manage Wests Magpies and then Wests Tigers in that same period.

Correct, and a system might work fine for one part of a business, but be completely inappropriate for another part. The debenture system has allowed people who have an interest in a football team to wield their power, but they should have been part of the club’s governance to serve the leagues club and its members.

 

[BAGNF05]

Real question is whether the club would have done similarly fine without the debenture system.

Wests Campbelltown are doing well and they no longer have oversight from the Wests Ashfield debentures. Bulldogs Leagues club doing great and they don't have a debenture system at all.

But I don't think anyone here really cares too much who gets credit for Wests Ashfield making money off poker machines, the real question is what those Leagues Club people contribute to the running of the first grade football club, being a totally separate consideration and separate skillset required.

So perhaps yes the Wests Ashfield folks have done just fine managing a Registered Club for 70 years, but very much worse in whatever they've contributed to attempting to manage Wests Magpies and then Wests Tigers in that same period.

Nailed it.

 

[BZN]

The fact that its nearly 2025 and we are still at this point ensures this movement has my full support.

This club should be an absolute powerhouse and yet we are constantly dragged through the mud by the zoo keepers in charge.

A lot of disenchanted and fed up fans will do anything for change fellas.

So, when you say you will do anything, that covers a pretty big field.
So I'll just ask what you won't do instead.

 

[BZN]

110% mate let’s get it done ✅

You're pretty fair dinkum about this rear-guard action aren't you.
Mount your horse's men and charge...
Sounds like a call to arms from you 426.

 

[Joel Helmes]

Who was in charge 2005 and/or 2010-11 and can we have them back in charge please?

Sheens, he just paid no notice to the hierarchy above him and did what he wanted. He’s the only coach that was not beholden to the whims of the club “leaders”.

 

[BZN]

An External Review of the Governance of Holman Barnes Group

We are launching this action because WE DO NOT have faith in the current governance of the majority shareholder of the Wests Tigers, the Holman Barnes Group (HBG). This action commenced after the HBG board continued to drag its feet over introducing and adopting the full recommendations from the...

www.petitions.net

Petition is live.
Hope everyone can get on board for the greater good of the club.

One team, One Jungle, No Limits.
2025 is an exciting one.
So the sooner we get this housekeeping in order, the better.

respect to the history.
love to the Magpies.
we are the Wests Tigers now.

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I also want to say that this isn't a Magpies v Balmain thing as both are incapable of running a modern professional sporting organisation. HBG and the Magpies are the focal point of this though as Balmain is irrelevant to the conversation as they have no power at all.

This isn't a Magpies V Balmain thing, but you have already mentioned the Magpie's twice, firstly in a disparaging way by referring to them as Magpie 'diehards'.
Then you mention the unsubstantiated claim of a push to get the Magpies back.
I wonder how many more gems I will find.

 

[BAGNF05]

Sheens, he just paid no notice to the hierarchy above him and did what he wanted. He’s the only coach that was beholden to the whims of the club “leaders”.

And you have to give them some credit for letting Sheens do Sheens. Politis is always in the background pulling strings at Easts, but I’ll bet he never tries to coach or swim outside his lane.

Pascoe on the recruiting committee still makes me chuckle.

 

[BZN]

I trust the people that have told me it is true.

Well, in that case it must be true?

 

[BZN]

I'm over Wests Magpies getting a kicking. For a start, Wests Magpies the footy club has absolutely no say or power in this whole cluster f..k. It's the WT board who is the problem. Cochise himself has said that he's been told that Romero and Burgess are pushing for a return of the Magpies. He may or may not be right but, even if he's right, they do not represent the Magpies in any official sense. They are merely Magpie supporters.
As a parallel, Benny Elias has been knocking WT for years but I don't hear anyone saying it's Balmain causing the problem. It's called for what is is, one individual with too much to say.

Agree with you 💯 coivtny 👍.

 

[BZN]

Maybe a protest at Wests Ashfield.

What a great idea J H. You could even go as far as blocking the food and beer delivery trucks from unloading their goods. Maybe even block the main entrance to stop the patrons from entering the club. But only do it one day each week though.

 

[BAGNF05]

Agree with you 💯 coivtny 👍.

In agreeing with coivtny’s post you just agreed with the ultimate ambition of this movement, a truly independent Board for WT, not held back by any petty allegiance.

 

[cktiger]

Agree with you 💯 coivtny 👍.

They don’t represent the Magpies?
Are you joking or smoking something you shouldn’t be?

 

[BZN]

They don’t represent the Magpies?
Are you joking or smoking something you shouldn’t be?

I'm smokin something I shouldn't be after a long hard day in the retirement village 😂.

 

[Spartan117]

This isn't a Magpies V Balmain thing, but you have already mentioned the Magpie's twice, firstly in a disparaging way by referring to them as Magpie 'diehards'.
Then you mention the unsubstantiated claim of a push to get the Magpies back.
I wonder how many more gems I will find.

Mate, should this be an exclusive group of 10 or so.

These guys have been scamming the Wests Ashfield system for 25 years.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Mate, should this be an exclusive group of 10 or so.

These guys have been scamming the Wests Ashfield system for 25 years.

How?

 

[BZN]

No worries mate. You were respectful in disagreeing and I have no problem with people holding alternate views to mine. You're spot on in saying we all support the best outcome for WT. Let's hope we get it.

You've used those 2 great words coivtny...respectful disagreement 👍.